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Oz v Tonga in the US of A?

Burns

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So many thought bubbles going up about what the Kangaroos do this year. Will it be a test in Dubai, Brisbane, Auckland, Hawaii, Utah or New York? Against Tonga? Who knows!
 

roughyedspud

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Oz v Tonga,if it happens at all,will either be in oz or nz mark my words

All this bullshit about Qatar,Utah,new York can be chucked into the same bucket as playing games in London,Dubai, Singapore,China,Hawaii,LA....

BORE OFF...
 

roughyedspud

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Australia and Tonga seem to about to play each other all around the world, but the irony is that Tonga need to be playing NZ in NZ..

Can't be having Tongan RL making money now can we..if Tonga makes money from tests it'll be able to pay it's players a decent make fee...and only the Aussie's are allowed to us cash as a carrot...
 

roughyedspud

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2019 & 2020 is when Tonga,nz and the whole pacific need to arrange things..

As I've said before in 2019 nz should host Tonga in a 3 test series...the other pacific nations should pair off too..

And in 2020 nz should host a pacific cup...that would be a awesome lead in to the 2021 world cup
 

Burns

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2019 & 2020 is when Tonga,nz and the whole pacific need to arrange things..

As I've said before in 2019 nz should host Tonga in a 3 test series...the other pacific nations should pair off too..

And in 2020 nz should host a pacific cup...that would be a awesome lead in to the 2021 world cup
There is literally nothing stopping any of this being announced now.

We already know that Australia will play fixtures in Melbourne in 2021,2022 for instance.
 

taipan

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So it's play union and see Joberg,NZ ,Pommyland and France.
Play for the Roos and see Dubai,any major US city,England.

The old Bill Pullmeover (Union CEO)comments "Play rugby league and see Campbelltown "is looking and sounding rather lame these days.Then again William was a rather lame leader of the union brigade.
His claim to fame, assisting that code move into the 4th most popular category.Well played sir.
 

Coastbloke

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NZ had already committed to a tour in England though.

Which is great and I also support the Test in Denver now it's happening but deep down my own personal opinion, is that during Origin this year, NZ should have played Tonga in NZ and England should have played France. Not everyone agrees and I get France is a stumbling block because of Catalan (who by not letting players go on Test duty are doing the same thing the NRL wanted to do with the Denver Test) but that is personally what I would have likedto have seen..
 

titoelcolombiano

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Lol - Qatar now the US - do they have a plan?

Besides, I though a flight to the US was bad for player welfare? Maybe it's just bad because the ARLC was missing out on the half million dollar paycheck - lol
 
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roughyedspud

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Yep...and the RLPA have already agreed that they'll only play one test post season...so this 2nd test,if it happens,will feature Australia's 2nd team unless the top players opt out of the agreement..which renders it pointless.....
 
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The Kangaroos and Tonga could play a Test on American soil this year, with New York and Utah pitching to host the historic event.

The 2025 World Cup will be staged in the US and officials are keen to take premium rugby league content to the region in the lead up. An international between England and New Zealand will be played in Denver on June 23, with an option for the game to be staged there for following two years.

On top of the world: Plans are being hatched for the World Cup-winning Kangaroos to play Tonga in the US this year.

Photo: Mark Nolan
The NRL is also looking to take the opening game of the 2019 season to North America, which would mark the first time a game would be played there for competition points.

Fairfax Media can reveal there are two separate proposals to bring an Australia-Tonga international to the States. One is via the consortium attempting to establish a professional New York franchise seeking to eventually enter a team into the English Super League. The proposal is for the Test to be staged at Red Bull Arena, the home of Major League Soccer team New York Red Bulls. The ground has a capacity of 25,000 and organisers believe a sellout is a distinct possibility.

The consortium, which is trying to replicate the success of Canada’s Toronto Wolfpack, hopes the event will add credibility to their bid for a team in the Big Apple.

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The other proposal comes from a consortium of business people wanting to bring the game to Utah. Their plan is for the game to be played at the 20,000-seat Rio Tinto Stadium, the home of MLS team Real Salt Lake.

New powerhouse: Jason Taumalolo's Tonga were the smash hit of the Rugby League World Cup.

Tonga – one of the success stories of the World Cup after beating New Zealand on their way to the semi-finals – would have plenty of support in Utah. One in four US Tongans lives in the "Beehive State" and organisers believe they won’t have any trouble drumming up interest.

There are alternate plans to take the game to more traditional markets, such as Brisbane’s Suncorp Stadium and Mt Smart Stadium in Auckland. However, secret talks with officials involved in the US proposals have been positive, with their chances likely to improve if the Denver Test is deemed a success.

The Kangaroos are scheduled to play a match against New Zealand at the end of the year, but Australia coach Mal Meninga is keen to add an additional fixture to the calendar. Qatar has been mooted as a potential destination for an Australia-Tonga clash, but the US could present less logistical issues should officials decide to explore a non-traditional market.

Tonga has the potential to become an international powerhouse, but the nation’s development has been hindered by a lack of playing opportunities. Tonga will take on fierce rivals Samoa at Campbelltown in the Pacific Test during the representative weekend, but there are no other fixtures slated. It makes it difficult for the nation – bolstered by the high-profile defections of Jason Taumalolo, Andrew Fifita, Manu Ma’u, David Fusitua and Sio Siua Taukeiaho – to build on the momentum generated during the World Cup.

“The big thing everyone needs to remember is they don’t have a lot to commit to,” Tonga coach Kristian Woolf told Fairfax Media last month.

“We need something for those guys to commit to and that’s meaningful games going forward.

“At the moment it’s very hard for those guys to go out on a limb and make that [eligibility] decision when there’s so much uncertainty going forward.

“The international calendar for the next four years only really involves England, New Zealand and Australia.

“We need to find a way for us to fit in somewhere. We’ve obviously had discussions with Australia and the game everyone would love to see is us playing New Zealand again.

“Unfortunately, that’s not going to happen in 2018.

“All the discussions for a game have been around Australia. The positive thing is that’s something our playing group wants to see happen and the Australian playing group certainly wants to see that happen as well.

“We need the people at the NRL and the international rugby league need to want that that happen as well.

“The biggest thing we need going forward is to settle on some meaningful games that help us to continue to be competitive.

“We’re in the top four in the world at the moment and we’d love the ability to push on with that. The only way to do that is playing games.”

https://www.canberratimes.com.au/sp...ay-tonga-in-us-this-year-20180421-p4zaw6.html
 

roughyedspud

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The international calendar for the next four years only really involves England, New Zealand and Australia.

“We need to find a way for us to fit in somewhere. We’ve obviously haddiscussions with Australia and the game everyone would love to see is us playing New Zealand again.

FFS....THE ONLY REASON THE NEXT FOUR YEARS ONLY INVOLVES THE BIG 3 IS BECAUSE THE BIG 3 f**kING ORGANISE f**kING THINGS!!!

there f**k all stopping Tonga arranging something with nz or anyone else..
 

adamkungl

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FFS....THE ONLY REASON THE NEXT FOUR YEARS ONLY INVOLVES THE BIG 3 IS BECAUSE THE BIG 3 f**kING ORGANISE f**kING THINGS!!!

there f**k all stopping Tonga arranging something with nz or anyone else..

That's not entirely true.

A 4-6 team Pacific Cup tournament should have been the first thing organised after the success of those nations at the 17WC, which is the responsibility of the mythical APRLC/RLIF not the individual nations.
Not a hint of a word about it.

And while bilateral tests are the responsibility of individual nations, the RLIF and its underling conferences could make an effort to push them in the right direction and pressure clubs into playing nice, since the nations themselves don't seem to have the resources or whatever to do so.
Perhaps the RLIF asking Ireland why they don't have a Test scheduled in the window would have been more effective than you asking them on Facebook.
 

Springs09

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FFS....THE ONLY REASON THE NEXT FOUR YEARS ONLY INVOLVES THE BIG 3 IS BECAUSE THE BIG 3 f**kING ORGANISE f**kING THINGS!!!

there f**k all stopping Tonga arranging something with nz or anyone else..

Well there's the fact that NZ are playing England 4 f**king times, that's one thing that's stopping Tonga from organising something with NZ.

I'm sure the Big 3 were like 'oh it looks like no one else is organising anything, I suppose we just have to play each other again, sigh...'

Not to mention Tonga has clearly been trying to organise a game with Australia once England & NZ ran off to form their exclusive 2-team club, but what will stop that is Australia's stupid RLPA agreement.
 

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