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Paris SL Team dead

Acka

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Just for those that are following this topic I did a little research on the game in France on Wikipedia and Rugby League is the fastest growing game in the country and their is a side based in Paris. But it is in a 4th tier competition so a Paris based side enetering the super league is a long way off.
 

ParraEelsNRL

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Just for those that are following this topic I did a little research on the game in France on Wikipedia and Rugby League is the fastest growing game in the country and their is a side based in Paris. But it is in a 4th tier competition so a Paris based side enetering the super league is a long way off.

Corbeil is a suburb in Paris, they are in LER 2, they won it last year but decided to say down for a while.

There's also Paris Charenton
 
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ParraEelsNRL

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Why are you arguing against him like he's actually going to read what you write?

Because some people might actually believe what he says mate.

If they come on here after he writes his stuff and no one refutes it, they might never know what the case is in regards to where RL is played and what is happening in the game.

Plus it feels good to prove him wrong, I'm a glutton for punishment ;-)
 

SteveM

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You can't read obviously can you, he's a fan as he use to go to RL games, it states it in the newspaper article.

I have no idea why he has a union team but seeing as you know it all, next time you meet him, ask for us all.



I post in RL related threads or threads where someone mentions RL, (asks a question, tells a lie) that's the difference between you and I SteveM, so if you want to disprove what I have stated, go and have a look at my posts, troll.





The last Paris team failed because the local French players not only had to play for PSG in the ESL, they then had to back up for their local Elite clubs, coupled with the fact the team stank on the pitch anyone can see it was a rushed disaster.

A fella like Guazzini obviously knows how to run a business and how to build and promote his interests, I'll back him in knowing the sporting market over a Troll who wants nothing but failure for the mung0 code.



Is that why around a third of the players in the Top14 are from other countries Steve?

And tell me Steve, which French team(s) in RugbyLeague have a whole team of foreigners?



Could you tell us how you know this Steve, can you tell us why the quality of French RL players is appalling?



The FFR13 are like they have for years Steve, the clubs also do their own thing like they always have and not to long ago, a few months actually, the FFR13 got a fair few more development officers and started working on the areas the FFR13 thought they needed working on.

There are also RL academies in Toulouse, Perpignan and a few other places. The schools are starting to get D/O's teaching children RL.

I've posted countless pics in here showing juniors playing or at juniors get togethers when you've opened your big mouth, you then scurry away for a few months and forget about it, but I don't.



Zero junior development?

If that's the case you plonker, how in the world has the game survived in France over the years, they obviously must have plenty of money to buy any junior Rugby Ugly player they want mustn't they?

http://www.com1site.com/FFRXIII/actualites.php

Why not educate yourself before you come back Steve.




You do know that government figures usually only count registered CLUB players you dope?

Were Mimes, Federal, Cadets, Schools and junior Elite counted Steve?

http://www.com1site.com/FFRXIII/jeunes.php

Do a search Steve, the site has all the dates and fixtures listed for 2010 for everything including schools.

The Government say RL out here in Aus has only 180 odd thousand players, yet they don't count schools and others do they?

The number was over 400,000 in 2009, think about it just once.



My biggest misunderstanding is why you continue to come in here and be a prat, no, no I take that back, I do understand why you come in here, it's quite funny actually, you can smell the FEAR a mile away, why not buzz off back to the Roar and planet Vichy to continue your anti RL crusade.





Well gee Steve, I never thought of that nor did I mention it :roll:



Again know all know nothing, how do you know this, got any figures available to show how much money it will cost to run the team, how about showing us what crowds they need to break even, what about the merchandise sales, how much would they need to sell each season to help stop the club going to the wall and lastly Steve the know all, how much will it cost to run the stadium just during the RL season?

Look forward to your response.




You didn't read the newspaper report did you Steve, they will have major backing from Guazzini and the casino-owning Patouche family along with the ex French International Union coach who also was the minister of sport in Bernard Laporte, the first two have already stated in the newspaper report that you didn't read that they will fund it themselves.

Then there is the fact that the SL is already being shown on Orange sport, you know Orange sport Steve, the same company that is the MAJOR SPONSOR OF THE TOP 14 UNION COMP.




Ummm, the FFR13 and the RFL would be the ones that want that, not the people behind the SF team.



Learn to read, he's already stated that hes going to fund it with the casino-owning Patouche family, fair dinkum :roll:




You're looking like a fool who can comprehend what he reads.



Who's to say what will happen Steve, maybe he will do that, maybe he'll treat them as separate clubs and do what he has to for both, ever thought of that?



Is it your money?

If not, why the hell hould you care what someone else does with their own money.



It wasn't just the Sun newspaper stupid, it was reported by non other than Larrat the FFR13 president on radio marseilette last month.

Here's a thread know all, knock yourself out



3.5/4k, nice lie again Steve, yet you don't mention all the juniors playing down there now though do you, maybe cause your argument might fall apart.



Seems to be going down quite well with the locals Steve, why not educate yourself again



Really Steve, I thought Les catalans were getting popular, I also posted some pics of games lately that have Ler 1 and 2 teams doing quite well with crowds and in the media.

Need any links?



I wasn't embarrassed Steve, so why should you care what RL fans think when you're not 1.



No, the fact that the people who are funding this were at the game and none of this came out until after the test shows you really don't have a f**king clue.

Now piss off, I'm sick of wasting my time with the likes of you who clearly has no idea what so ever.


You need to read my post again you gimp. This thread is about RL in Paris not France. In fact I am replying to your posts on RL in Paris !.

Your reply is virtually incoherent and is just rambling bunch of words that mean nothing.

Try again (or get help with your writing from your mummy).
 
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SteveM

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Just for those that are following this topic I did a little research on the game in France on Wikipedia and Rugby League is the fastest growing game in the country and their is a side based in Paris. But it is in a 4th tier competition so a Paris based side enetering the super league is a long way off.

Acka, Wikipedia is not reliable as it is frequently updated with misinformation on just about every topic.

This thread

http://forums.leagueunlimited.com/showthread.php?t=347188

gives a better indication of the health (if you can call it that) of RL in France. It certainly no where near the fastest growing sport in France.

In fact it's behind Baton Twirling and Parachuting in participation numbers.
 

ParraEelsNRL

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Gimp said:
You need to read my post again you gimp. This thread is about RL in Paris not France. In fact I am replying to your posts on RL in Paris !.

Your reply is virtually incoherent and is just rambling bunch of words that mean nothing.

Try again (or get help with your writing from your mummy).

Excuse me?

Listen, I gave you links to the FFR13 site to do the work yourself know all, if you are too stupid to find out the info, get your mummy to do it for you, better yet, get that book of all things knowledgeable Brumby in Vic to help you. I showed you links outside of the Sun news paper where the President of the FFR 13 was talking about SF, if you're too stupid to bother reading them, bad luck.

I answered your stupid little post and this is all you can come back with? :lol:

Gimp.


Gimp said:
Acka, Wikipedia is not reliable as it is frequently updated with misinformation on just about every topic.

gee, I thought that'd be right up your alley.

Gimp said:
This thread

http://forums.leagueunlimited.com/sh...d.php?t=347188

gives a better indication of the health (if you can call it that) of RL in France. It certainly no where near the fastest growing sport in France.

In fact it's behind Baton Twirling and Parachuting in participation numbers.


Listen troll, if you want to continue disrupting threads, I suggest you copy and past them into TFC where we can have the sort of discussion I think you're looking for, this part of the forum is for the fans of the game to talk and post news, we'd like to be able to do it in peace, I don't mind people questioning things, but I can't stand those with an agenda.

So if you want to continue, take it to TFC.

Oh that's right, you're to gutless to venture in there and post aren't you stevie, need mummy to hold your hand huh?

you're a damn pussy.
 

ParraEelsNRL

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These are the teams based in the Paris region.

Pool Ile-de-France

Chatillon XIII
Clos Torreau XIII
Fleury XIII
Montgeron XIII
Nanterre XIII
Paris-Charenton XIII

LER 2

Corbeil XIII


Now SteveM seems to think that RL has no right in setting up a Paris SL side for some strange reason. He states that no one plays the game, that the people are not interested in said game and that it would fail within a year.

Well Steve, the game at club level has been played in Paris since 1934 and has had many players play for the National side, the crowds have ranged from a couple of thousand to over 35,000 at times for internationals, it has a long history. You can say that no one is interested, but if no one was interested, why do they have these club teams?

The Paris area has now got some development officers working on the junior structure, given time, I see no reason why a professional club could not flourish in the area. Corbeil XIII won the LER 2 last season but they decided to stay down until they feel they are ready to step up to the next level. The club could have jumped into the Elite comp, but if they feel they need more time to get things right, who are we to say otherwise?

As was pointed out before, the Paris Saint Germain club failed for a number of reasons, a lot was to do with the infighting and politics of the FFR13. If another club was to be granted Elite or SL status with the blessing of the FFR13, you can bet your bottom dollar the club would stand a hellava lot better chance of survival this time.

If Paris as you say can't and won't support a SL side, then how do you explain the S15 club called Melbourne Rebels?

Are they not in the same position as Paris with regards to the game being played?

Infact, since Paris has had RL teams since 1934 playing in their National competitions, wouldn't that put RL compared to the Vic Rebels in a better position?

RU people like to say Weary Dunlop and about 3 others have come out of the Victorian Rugby Union to make the Wallabies and that the game has been played in Private schools for decades, this is their justification of having a club in the S14.

Yet at the same time, these same people turn around and say RL shouldn't have a side playing out of Paris in the ESL, WHY?

Looking at both codes history in these two markets, if anything, RL deserves a club playing out of Paris way before a club plays S14 out of Melbourne simply because Paris has had clubs playing since 1934 in the national comps and have had far more people from those clubs play for their National team than the Victorian Rugby Union has.

Yes right now the game of RL is struggling to get it right in the Ile-de-France region, but should the game let it go, should the game and the people who are supposed to look after it let it wither out and die completely simply because a few people who have no interest in the game and actually show hatred towards it say so?

Wouldn't that be against what sport and freedom of choice is all about, having fun, supporting, playing and having the freedom to do these things irrespective of what others want?

If the only way to stem the flow of people not enjoying the game in Paris atm and reversing it is to put a team in the Elite/ESL in Paris, wouldn't the people incharge of the game over there be tying rocks to the codes ankles by not doing it. It would be irresponsible not to try and move the game forward wouldn't it?

If and when they do decide to put a team into one of these comps, they'll be doing it for the right reasons and they'll be doing it so that the history of the game in that part of the world continues into the future, they won't be doing it to get at Rugby Union or anyone else, they'll be doing it to help grow their own game, and that's something all sports have a right to do, infact it's a responsibility of the people running sports to make sure they are growing and helping them remain healthy.
 

bowes

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These are the teams based in the Paris region.

Pool Ile-de-France

Chatillon XIII
Clos Torreau XIII
Fleury XIII
Montgeron XIII
Nanterre XIII
Paris-Charenton XIII

LER 2

Corbeil XIII
Fleury never started the season and Clos Torreau are from Nantes, so 5 teams. Seems enough to support a French Elite side to me, but would only be able to support a higher level with outside players or RU converts (which may well be possible with SF money behind, but that's another story)
 

ParraEelsNRL

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Fleury never started the season and Clos Torreau are from Nantes, so 5 teams. Seems enough to support a French Elite side to me, but would only be able to support a higher level with outside players or RU converts (which may well be possible with SF money behind, but that's another story)

definitely, and it's their money and they can spend it however they like ;-)

And with more DO now working in France, they should be able to get a few more clubs up and running over the next 3/5 seasons.
 

winnyason

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this is a interesting story both maurice lindsay and gussiet in support of toulouse over paris if it comes to this.

In its edition off December 7,2009, the magazine off English Rugby league, League Weekly, excessively pious women two pages to the possibility off the Paris bid for the Super League. In this article, the ' boss' RFL in 1996 (when the PSG integrated the Super League), Maurice LINDSAY, gives his point of view… In this section, the ' boss' off the RFL in 1996 (when the PSG has built the Super League), Maurice Lindsay, gives his views… Patrick ENTAT in action with the PSG in 1996 Patrick entation in action with PSG in 1996 Maurice LINDSAY, who qualifies d' expansionist with regard to the Super League, known as that if Toulouse cannot integrate the competition headlight of Rugby into XIII in Europe, he wonders well which can it. Maurice Lindsay, who qualify for expansionary regarding the Super League, said that yew Toulouse edge not include the flagship competition off Rugby league in Europe, He wonders who Can. It specifies that Toulouse is a town of Rugby, qu' it ya of the superb infrastructures and that Carlos ZALDUENDO, President of to, is a formidable leader. He said that Toulouse has city off Rugby, there are excel facilities and Carlos Zalduendo, President off TO, has formidable leader. For him, Toulouse Olympique progresses step by step and is l' optiion offering the most guarantees of success. For him, Olympic Toulouse progressing step by step and is optiion offering more guarantees off success. Jerome GUISSET, international French of the Catalan Dragons, also gives his point of view in this article. He says qu' one 2nd team of Super League in France is necessary for the development of this sport and that Toulouse could be a true success because Rugby with XIII is well established in the South of France. Jerome GUISSET international French Catalans Dragons, also gives his views in this article. He said that 2nd TEAM Super League in France is necessary for the development off the sport and that Toulouse could Be has real success for Rugby league is strong in the South off France

from toulouse website
 

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