RLWC2017 Media Watch

[DC_fan]

If you look at how RL started it was a player led movement for payment. To me thats a market based initiative. The breakaway code had to exist by creating more attractive rules to attract fans to pay the players through the gate. It wasnt supported by established organisations like schools at the time. It was on its own and had to survive in the market place. Pretty impressive given the circumstances.

Rugby League come into being because Union players, when injured received no payment for having the injuries dealt with nor for the time that the injury took them away from their employment. They weren't looking to be paid for playing, they were looking to receive monies to cover the incidental costs of medical bills and loss of work time while the injury was being dealt with. Players 100 years ago were not professionals, they played for the love of the game. Obviously the rules of league had to be different to that of union so to differentiate between the two. From what I have read in the history books of the game, matches back in the early days were not the most exciting things to watch. For one thing they had the one yard rule in defence. No wonder scoring was limited.

 

[Stallion]

Rugby League come into being because Union players, when injured received no payment for having the injuries dealt with nor for the time that the injury took them away from their employment. They weren't looking to be paid for playing, they were looking to receive monies to cover the incidental costs of medical bills and loss of work time while the injury was being dealt with. Players 100 years ago were not professionals, they played for the love of the game. Obviously the rules of league had to be different to that of union so to differentiate between the two. From what I have read in the history books of the game, matches back in the early days were not the most exciting things to watch. For one thing they had the one yard rule in defence. No wonder scoring was limited.

Yes. Recompensed. Which turned into professionalism. That's market!

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

Rugby League come into being because Union players, when injured received no payment for having the injuries dealt with nor for the time that the injury took them away from their employment. They weren't looking to be paid for playing, they were looking to receive monies to cover the incidental costs of medical bills and loss of work time while the injury was being dealt with. Players 100 years ago were not professionals, they played for the love of the game. Obviously the rules of league had to be different to that of union so to differentiate between the two. From what I have read in the history books of the game, matches back in the early days were not the most exciting things to watch. For one thing they had the one yard rule in defence. No wonder scoring was limited.

Actually, youre both wrong....

NU was RU until about 1906. Prior to that, they only changed a few things to speed the game up a bit. Im fairly sure NU wanted to remerge with RFU under better working conditions

The rule changes werent to differentiate from RU, it was the indicatives that RU just wouldnt take on because of its conservative mindset. NU was run by the people who werent worried about moving away from their history and thought the spectical was the most important thing.

 

[DC_fan]

Actually, youre both wrong....

NU was RU until about 1906. Prior to that, they only changed a few things to speed the game up a bit. Im fairly sure NU wanted to remerge with RFU under better working conditions

The rule changes werent to differentiate from RU, it was the indicatives that RU just wouldnt take on because of its conservative mindset. NU was run by the people who werent worried about moving away from their history and thought the spectical was the most important thing.

If you are correct I stand corrected.

 

[Stallion]

Actually, youre both wrong....

NU was RU until about 1906. Prior to that, they only changed a few things to speed the game up a bit. Im fairly sure NU wanted to remerge with RFU under better working conditions

The rule changes werent to differentiate from RU, it was the indicatives that RU just wouldnt take on because of its conservative mindset. NU was run by the people who werent worried about moving away from their history and thought the spectical was the most important thing.

Completely agree. Their was a player issue from the outset and then the modified improved version evolved.

 

[hutch]

Ironic thing is that if rugby league was never formed rugby union would probably have evolved to now look like rugby league and we would only have rugby league.

 

[Stallion]

Ironic thing is that if rugby league was never formed rugby union would probably have evolved to now look like rugby league and we would only have rugby league.

Yes. Although I suggest that the conservative element dominating union would not have accepted change. Only due to RL being such a great alternative has union tried to close the gap and done other things.

 

[DC80]

Ironic thing is that if rugby league was never formed rugby union would probably have evolved to now look like rugby league and we would only have rugby league.

Don't agree with that assumption at all. Believe it or not there are people that much prefer RU to RL as a spectacle. Our crowds being smaller it's us as rugby league fans that are in the minority. The play the ball rule for one wouldn't be accepted by them. Scrums and line outs, while I can't abide, RU fans enjoy the variation they provide.

 

[Stallion]

Don't agree with that assumption at all. Believe it or not there are people that much prefer RU to RL as a spectacle. Our crowds being smaller it's us as rugby league fans that are in the minority. The play the ball rule for one wouldn't be accepted by them. Scrums and line outs, while I can't abide, RU fans enjoy the variation they provide.

You are kidding! Most RU fans have been indocrinated through schools systems that havent given rugby league a go! Haven't you worked that one out yet!? If these students had the choice, more often than not, they would choose the more inclusive game in rugby league. So get that out of your head for a start champ!

 

[magpie_man]

You are kidding! Most RU fans have been indocrinated through schools systems that havent given rugby league a go! Haven't you worked that one out yet!? If these students had the choice, more often than not, they would choose the more inclusive game in rugby league. So get that out of your head for a start champ!

You're talking out of your proverbial mate. There are plenty of fair-minded people who haven't been "indoctrinated" that prefer Rugby Union to Rugby League.
It comes down to personal preference.

 

[Coastbloke]

Well, the thread is completely irrelevant now because less than a week after the final, the media has now long moved on and is now obssessed with you know what a 7 long months to the first game..

Even the tremendous interest they had for a short time with the Pacific nations has now disappeared. Just to add to the depressing scenario, the next time we see IRL on FTA (Fox will probably show the pacific tests but the wc was too much hey) will probably be Gus, Rabs and Sterlo on Nein during the one off Kangaroo v Kiwi Test telling us we should be at the cricket.

 

[Stallion]

You're talking out of your proverbial mate. There are plenty of fair-minded people who haven't been "indoctrinated" that prefer Rugby Union to Rugby League.
It comes down to personal preference.

Dont think so if you really analyse it well. Remembering where alot of places where Union is strong is where RL has been banned,little or no school access, or not even been given status as a sport like in South Africa. If you have a good look their is definitely nations where you have to be exposed to union and no league and that is reality. The other way does not occur. You figure it out. You have enough clues I hope.