Round 19 V NZ

[betcats]

He can't of ruined May in half a training session. This week he should be fine after that back to same old

Unless they have completely changed the structure it will be the same mate, honestly what happened in nyc years ago will have zero bearing on what happens tonight, if we win it will be because we ran hard and the warriors defence was shit.

 

[franklin2323]

Unless they have completely changed the structure it will be the same mate, honestly what happened in nyc years ago will have zero bearing on what happens tonight, if we win it will be because we ran hard and the warriors defence was shit.

Don't we let the players play it how they see? I thought that was the issue the lack of structure. Warriors are very ordinary in defence so the closest to NYC these guys will see. Combinations will be better too so I think we will score atleast 4 tries. Whether that is enough time will tell

 

[OldPanther]

Regardless of what happened. Surely we organise a swap deal or something or wait until the off season. Could still re-sign CHN and get it sorted by Nov to be ok with the cap.

We would look far better if we were bringing in MWZ for Whare and a recognised half for Moylan. Atleast Peachey could be tried in either spot

Bring in a half to replace Moylan? That's insane.

 

[TheFrog]

The ideal scenario would have been to have kept Korosiau instead of ditching him after a year and then ditching Segeyaro anyway (!)

Isn't hindsight a wonderful thing.

 

[betcats]

Don't we let the players play it how they see? I thought that was the issue the lack of structure. Warriors are very ordinary in defence so the closest to NYC these guys will see. Combinations will be better too so I think we will score atleast 4 tries. Whether that is enough time will tell

We play a super flat structure mate, our trainers are constantly telling the guys "fast and flat, fast and flat". Its the reason our centres see no ball. Other than that we use no decoys, set plays and barely any kind of deception. Its just stand flat, run hard then get it to the speed men on the edges(which is basically impossible which is why the backrowers get all the attacking ball). Its limited, basic and ineffective.

Edit: All that being said I think we are trying to add something to it because there has been talk recently of our centres getting more early ball etc which just cant happen without changing something, so fingers crossed we see a bit of variation tonight.

 

[billypilgrimnz]

Isn't hindsight a wonderful thing.

So is competent management.

 

[betcats]

Isn't hindsight a wonderful thing.

There was a couple people who argued for keeping Api over Seggy back in 2015, Chris in particular. I argued the opposite at the time but in hindsight I was wrong(obviously).

 

[franklin2323]

We play a super flat structure mate, our trainers are constantly telling the guys "fast and flat, fast and flat". Its the reason our centres see no ball. Other than that we use no decoys, set plays and barely any kind of deception. Its just stand flat, run hard then get it to the speed men on the edges(which is basically impossible which is why the backrowers get all the attacking ball). Its limited, basic and ineffective.

Edit: All that being said I think we are trying to add something to it because there has been talk recently of our centres getting more early ball etc which just cant happen without changing something, so fingers crossed we see a bit of variation tonight.

I saw that too. Both our tries v Souths scored from early ball to our centres. That I hope is the plan going forward Moylan seemed too scared to go wide last week. So a change may see that still go forward... More hope then anything

 

[chrisD]

We are an option short on the backline plays. First receiver being a forward, running Edwards in the normal Moylan role and Cartwright playing lock and slotting into one of the positions are possible fixes.

 

[OldPanther]

Our biggest problem is keeping the same spine long term. The best teams have consistent rosters.

 

[mxlegend99]

There was a couple people who argued for keeping Api over Seggy back in 2015, Chris in particular. I argued the opposite at the time but in hindsight I was wrong(obviously).

I wanted to keep Api. But not at the expense of Segeyaro.

I still cant believe we released him early. We get guys on great deals, then release them and destroy our depth. Why bother identifying young guys, signing them up before their value soars and then release them?

 

[franklin2323]

I wanted to keep Api. But not at the expense of Segeyaro.

I still cant believe we released him early. We get guys on great deals, then release them and destroy our depth. Why bother identifying young guys, signing them up before their value soars and then release them?

Exactly my issue. It shouldn't of been an either situation. Let Api finish his deal and decide when it is due to expire

 

[franklin2323]

Our biggest problem is keeping the same spine long term. The best teams have consistent rosters.

That is the issue. TMM and Cleary could of been half pairing for 10 years. Due to this we didn't develop anyone else and here we are now.

 

[franklin2323]

We are an option short on the backline plays. First receiver being a forward, running Edwards in the normal Moylan role and Cartwright playing lock and slotting into one of the positions are possible fixes.

Comes from years of playing at this level. We need someone on the field to set up our plays. Even allowing for Griffin's lack of skills. Brandy has spent a month with the halves sure he has a set move or 2. Comes to gametime and we stand too shallow and doesn't happen

 

[OldPanther]

It's official:

http://www.penrithpanthers.com.au/news/2017/07/14/nrl_late_mail_round_.html

Panthers v Warriors
8pm (local), 6pm (AEST) Friday @ Mt Smart Stadium

1. Dylan EDWARDS
2. Josh MANSOUR
3. Tyrone PEACHEY
4. Waqa BLAKE
5. Dallin WATENE-ZELEZNIAK
19. Tyrone MAY
7. Nathan CLEARY
8. James TAMOU
9. Mitch REIN
16. Tim BROWNE
11. Corey HARAWIRA-NAERA
12. Isaah YEO
13. Trent MERRIN (c)

10. Reagan CAMPBELL-GILLARD
14. Sione KATOA
15. Leilani LATU
17. James FISHER-HARRIS

 

[betcats]

May to start, good luck kid. Benched RCG? Must be running to hard again(I know it's probably tactical).

 

[roofromoz]

Tyrone May is the 8th NRL graduate from the 2015 Holden Cup premiership winning squad - the others being Nathan Cleary, James Fisher-Harris, Corey Harawira-Neara, Dylan Edwards, Sione Katoa, Moses Leota and Robert Jennings.

 

[betcats]

It's official, hook has destroyed blakes confidence

 

[Pugzley]

Cleary!!!!

 

[betcats]

Cleary flashing his potential, leading pointscorer with our attack at 19.