Rumoured Targets 3

Discussion in 'Newcastle Knights' started by CobyDelaney, Aug 19, 2015.

  1. AusKnightRKO

    AusKnightRKO First Grade

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    This sort of works out for us well though, we can front load some contracts, then next year we just go on an absolute spending spree.

    In this current situation, we should have no problem with the cap for many years to come.
     
  2. Pedge1971

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    It had Rothfields name to it.
     
  3. Pedge1971

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    The article had Rothfields name to it.
     
  4. Spot On

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    Maybe. But say we miss out on marquees again for what ever reason/s we will be forced to just 'spend' money on players that Brown potentially never wanted to appease the effing RLPA.

    Unlikely to happen that way you would hope but I find being 'forced to spend up' a ridiculous rule. Club and coach want a balanced roster before giving money to players they may never have been too keen on.

    Maybe front loading is the go?
     
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  5. Bartwah

    Bartwah Juniors

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    Brown has done a ridiculous job. He’s cut all the deadwood, inherited a salary cap that was overspent, got it down to a point where we have 1.5mill to spend, meanwhile keeping the good local talent and signing some of the best prospects in the NRL at the moment. Sure we haven’t landed any Marquee signings, but bloody hell, we’re on the right track! What a time to be a knights fan!
     
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  6. Still Nutty

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    Apparently Naden hasn't been picked up by the Raiders (was a back fill for them, running around for Mounties last year) so it seems we are certainly giving him a chance to get his head right and show us what he can do.

    For a young bloke about to turn 22, he's got some size ( old data states 189cm and 92kg) and ability from all reports...if Brownie and the coaching staff can get his head screwed on right, he might be a cheap dark horse with something to prove, that gives us some good depth in the centres, along side Moga
     
  7. PhilGould

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    He definitely has the ability to be a first grader. Just hope he realises these opportunities won't keep coming.
     
  8. Burwood

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    I think front-ended contracts have a huge potential to backfire in the NRL. Just look at how many players fail to see out their contract these days.

    Imagine forking out an extra $200,000 on a player in the first year of their contract just to spend salary cap space, and then have them leave with a year or two still to run on their contract when they are getting paid below market value.
     
  9. Elephant Hunter

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    You're right but if there are no players available to pay our money to and we have to make our 95% of cap what else could/would we do?

    I imagine given that Brown, Mooney and Wests group are not stupid they will hold off any front loading or additional payments until midnight the 29th June and then pay it through just to be cap compliant and hope that it works out okay.

    The other risk mitigation is to spread the 1.5 - 2 mil across all 30 players in the cap ($67,000 - $150,000 ) to each squad member and then if one does leave you only loose a small amount of that advantage
     
  10. perverse

    perverse Referee

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    Unless we front-load the majority of the squad, we won't be able to make up the difference with that alone. There's a limit to how much you can back and/or front load any given contract. We need more troops.
     
  11. Burwood

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    I thought we still had 6 roster spots available. That’ll chew through a lot of that cap space.
     
  12. Mr_Knightside

    Mr_Knightside Juniors

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    I wouldn't worry too much about it at this stage because we only have to be compliant by 30 June and I'm sure we'll sign more players between now and then for our 2018 squad.
     
  13. NoSchitSherlock

    NoSchitSherlock Juniors

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    I think Rothfield is just trying to get his name out there.
    We have heaps of time and we are bound to have injuries.
     
  14. Spot On

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    Either way it is just a dumb shit rule that should never have been agreed to by the NRL.
     
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  15. macavity

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    Can imagine us front loading contracts, last year or two (when they are on the lower rate) the manager gets in their ear and says I can get you a few hundred grand extra to leave, you are being paid below market value...

    Nek Minnit local junior is homesick and misses his third cousin twice removed in Brisbane...

    If there is a club it will backfire on it’s us.
     
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  16. Spot On

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    Yes, I don't like it at all the more I think about

    Incredible to think Brown has done all the hard work clearing the cap of bad investments to get us to where we are now and all of a sudden a deal done by the NRL ( the mob who didn't want him spending for the last 2 years) and the RLPA could in fact force him to piss away the money he has sitting on the sidelines on what he may deem poor investments because they are now making him spend. Spend in a way he may not think is best for his team and club mind you.

    FFS, rugby league hey.

    Dumb and dumber.

    We need Mick Hagan and his cheque book back.
     
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  17. Pedge1971

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    Agreed. What happened to spend within your means and dont go bankrupt because we cannot bail you out. Weak merkins.

    Furthermore with the TPAs of other clubs the players are getting their fair dues anyway.

    Out of interest, when was this cap rule formally communicated?

    Suddenly teams like the Dogs who were cap f**ked a month ago have shed Graham, gained Foran and Woods and are f**king fine and the pressure is on teams who have managed down their cap?

    FMD it cannot get anymore blatant at the NRL.....
     
  18. Pedge1971

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    Just before the June deadline (after any signings), pay the top performers a bonus for this year only based on performance to get to the 95% as well as upgrade any talent needed fwd looking.

    Communicate the plan now and watch these blokes rip in.

    We have 600k coming off the cap with Hodko alone in 2019. Dont front load, make it clear there is a war chest for 2018 only and it is up to them to deliver this year.

    Then make the right decisions for 2019 when the season is done but stick to the plan. This has to be seen as a 2018 only anomoly.....
     
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  19. slotmachine

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    Non-issue.

    Cap space doesn't win football games so not much point underspending in perpetuity.

    If they strike out in the great marquee hunt for 2018 have another crack in 2019. Godfather offer combined with us no longer being a complete embarrassment will net someone.
     
  20. Mr Angry

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    Surely there is some player playing the RLWC who can be signed?
     

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