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Noise

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Waratahs seemed to have pulled out of the race for Hayne, citing reasons about having enough stars already and looking for a long term fix to their crappy crowds, but really its because they won't get a top up from the ARU because he cant play for the Wallabies.
 

Bazal

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I doubt the Tahs were ever that serious. They haven't got any room for him really, maybe inside centre but like they say they have five Wallabies in the backline already and he was never getting the ARU top up so why bother?
 

84 Baby

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You're missing the point mate - not all backups are equal. Your first choice backup fullback, outside back, half, edge forward and hooker (if they're not already in the top 17) should be better than minimum salary in quality. That probably means they'll have a higher than minimum salary. You'd be very lucky to get hold of eight backups (top 25 minus 17) worthy of the top 25 who are also available for minimum salary. Most of the blokes who will sign for minimum aren't the type of player you want as your first choice backup, especially at positions that play 80 minutes.

Morgan is only a waste of money because we have Gutherson (whom we signed well after Morgan re-signed).
Agreed there are going to be players outside top 17 that are on more than minimum, but you're missing the point. How is that better cap/squad balance management than minimising the cap excess you have not playing every week?
 

84 Baby

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Waratahs seemed to have pulled out of the race for Hayne, citing reasons about having enough stars already and looking for a long term fix to their crappy crowds, but really its because they won't get a top up from the ARU because he cant play for the Wallabies.
I doubt the Tahs were ever that serious. They haven't got any room for him really, maybe inside centre but like they say they have five Wallabies in the backline already and he was never getting the ARU top up so why bother?
He was never getting ARU top up... in his first year. The rah rah rumour was he was going to play offseason overseas somewhere to learn game and justify the top up
 

Bazal

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He was never getting ARU top up... in his first year. The rah rah rumour was he was going to play offseason overseas somewhere to learn game and justify the top up

Except he can't play for the Wallabies, and therefore the ARU wouldn't top his deal up anyway.
 

Bazal

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They could, but it'd be a massive gamble and they can't guarantee that money...I don't think Hayne would have any of it, the Tahs won't have any of it and the ARU haven't got the money to be paying blokes extra on the off chance that they'll get an exemption and be good enough to play for the Wallabies.
 

ash411

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I think you'll find the ARU are of the belief that they could be granted an exception given circumstances
I don't think world rugby cares about Jarryd Hayne, and wouldn't bend the rules for him.

They did change them though, so he can be a wallaby in the future, just not now.
 

El Diablo

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http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport...k=2fb70c3b2231603cf6f9f142f56735a4-1469529759

Waratahs won’t offer Jarryd Hayne contract despite ARU interest
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Christy Doran, FOX SPORTS

July 26, 2016 7:37pm

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JARRYD Hayne will have to look outside of Sydney if he wants to play Super Rugby in 2017 after the Waratahs confirmed on Tuesday that they will not table an offer for the cross-code superstar.

Foxsports.com.au can reveal that after much consideration, the Waratahs have decided “quick fix” Hayne doesn’t fit with the club’s current direction.

The decision to shoulder arms comes less than a week after Hayne was snapped leaving his second meeting with Australian Rugby Union boss Bill Pulver.

Pulver revealed Hayne had approached the ARU to discuss his career options after the former league and NFL star was overlooked for Fiji’s Olympic sevens squad.

Waratahs chief executive Andrew Hore described the decision as a “watershed” moment in the club’s history.

It will also surprise many, given Hayne is one of Australia’s most marketable athletes and would undoubtedly boost sagging Super Rugby crowds.

“We’re not going to pursue Jarryd at this present point in time, and I think it’s a bit of a watershed moment for the organisation,” Hore said.

“We feel with the fact that we’ve combined both NSW and Waratahs rugby that our first priority has got to be making NSW a great rugby state again and that’s got to be our primary focus.

“Now, is a quick fix going to do that?

“We don’t think it is.

“We think the issues in our game are that broad and deep that we want to focus on resolving those, and when you’ve already got 10-plus Wallabies — plus Israel Folau in our team — we feel that there’s enough star-power there at this stage.

“Maybe it’s about utilising their skillset more, while at the same time increasing investment into the things that are going to make us a great rugby state once again.”

It is understood Hayne wants to live in Sydney and his flirtation with Fiji means he is not eligible to play for the Wallabies and have his contract boosted by the ARU.

As a result, the Waratahs would have to dig deep into their pockets to table a competitive offer as NRL clubs circle.

Hore, a New Zealander who took the reins of the Waratahs in April, has other priorities after a season in which NSW missed out on the finals with a 8-7 record.

“We believe we’ve got to focus more on those others areas of the game: youth development, infrastructure and building the game of rugby union for all shapes and sizes,” Hore said.

“Now, there’s no doubt that if there was unlimited resources, that a player like Jarryd Hayne may have been of real benefit.

“But right now we have a new and exciting young group of players, (and) combined with the needs of our game to put it back on an even keel, talking to Jarryd probably at the moment isn’t the right thing for us as a sport.

“First and foremost we’ve got to continue to look at how we grow our own.

“We’ve got a new and exciting leadership group in our team, and a lot of new players coming in next year, so it’s really important that we ensure that we grow and invest in an environment which helps them excel, and sometimes if you redirect that financial resource it means you can’t do that.”

On Thursday, Pulver told Fox Sports that it would be “terrific” to have Hayne in Australian rugby and that the code had put together a “pretty compelling offer” for him.

Hore stressed the importance of the ARU and Super Rugby provinces remaining unified as cashed-up European and Japanese clubs come knocking.
 

Mr Pmatta

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I realise Hayne has stated he wants to live in Sydney, but I still think Titans r still in picture ,unlikely yes, in saying that JH is very unpredictable .
 

El Diablo

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http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...s/news-story/688a3d5a05223525eafd56e6540c9fec

Kieran Foran seeking $200,000 severance payout from Parramatta Eels
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NICK TABAKOFF, The Daily Telegraph
32 minutes ago

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KIERAN Foran is seeking a payout of up to $200,000 from the Parramatta Eels as the club looks to finalise his departure to allow it to start planning for 2017.

Foran spectacularly decided to walk away from the NRL and his $5 million deal with the Eels earlier this month, as he looked to a complete break from the game to sort out a number of personal issues.

As part of his decision, Foran formally requested a release from the Eels for the rest of his playing contract - but that request now comes with a financial settlement application.

The star Eels recruit was believed to be on a base salary of around $800,000 a year. It is believed Foran is seeking between two and three months of this salary as a severance payment from the club - either until the start of October when the NRL season ends, or the beginning of November, when the current salary cap year officially ends.

Given any severance pay would take into account his base salary, a two-month payout for Foran would add up to about $135,000, while a three-month payment would equate to around $200,000.

Player-wise, finalising Foran’s departure is the first order of business for Parramatta’s preparations for next year. Once his severance is finalised, the club can start to examine both the re-signing of Corey Norman and the possible signing of Jarryd Hayne from the 2017 season onwards.

Insiders say that once the terms of Foran’s departure from the club are finalised, they will look to hold discussions with Norman, before working out how much room they have in the cap for Hayne.

The ability of the Eels to sign Norman and Hayne is set to depend on the club’s negotiations with the NRL about how and how much of any severance pay for Foran will be classified.

Subject to the approval of salary cap auditor Jamie L’Oste-Brown, the club may be able to find a way to exclude the amount from its cap for 2016.

If it is under its salary cap for 2016, this may allow the Eels to bring forward some of the club’s payments to players for the 2017 season - helping it to find more room in the cap next year for players like Norman and Hayne.

This could prove crucial, as the NRL’s initial breach notice against the club found $1.3 million in dodgy third party deals offered by the Eels would need to be included in the club’s salary cap between 2017 and 2019 - jeopardising its cap position.

With the departures of Foran and Anthony Watmough - who were the biggest beneficiaries of these future TPAs - the Eels’ salary cap position for the next three years would now improve dramatically.

Foran was scheduled to receive $450,000 in under-the-table TPAs between 2017 and 2019, while Watmough was in line for $400,000 - reducing the Eels’ salary cap overhang for 2017-19 to just $450,000.

There is no suggestion Foran and Watmough have done anything wrong.

Meanwhile, the Eels’ new board met the club’s players for the first time, with interim Eels chairman Max Donnelly, interim CEO Bevan Paul and interim director Jim Sarantinos meeting the club’s players for the first time.

With coach Brad Arthur also present, insiders said Mr Donnelly told the players that the club would this week commence the recruitment process this week for the club’s two most senior executive roles: that of CEO (to replace the sacked John Boulous) and head of football (to replace the sacked Daniel Anderson).

Arthur is understood to be particularly keen to fill the head of football role, as the role has effectively been vacant since May when Anderson was first suspended by the NRL.

“For the players, nothing changes - it’s just a different board,” Mr Donnelly is said to have told the players.
 

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