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Glenneel

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Just on Evans, he
Parramatta’s Semi Radradra replacement plans for 2018 revealed

PARRAMATTA are considering keeping a roster spot vacant for Semi Radradra in case he returns next season.

Foxsports.com.au understands the Eels have four places on their roster vacant ahead of the 2018 season and in no hurry to fill them.

While the Eels are also exploring the market both in the NRL, overseas and rival codes, a suitable replacement for Radradra is yet to present himself.

It’s understood rugby convert Marika Koroibete was a consideration some months ago however, due to his asking price, the club never pursued that option.

Still, Radradra returning to the NRL as soon as 2018 is a genuine possibility.

The flying Fijian signed a lucrative two-year-deal with French-based rugby side Toulon earlier this year and will join the rival code effective immediately as their season has already kicked off.

French rugby’s Top 14 season goes until May and Radradra’s contract is one year with an option for a second.

If desired, the flyer could return mid-season and finish the year with the Eels.

“It’s disappointing for Semi to go out on those terms,” Eels coach Brad Arthur said after last Saturday’s finals loss to North Queensland.

“He’s been great for our club.

“He’s worked extremely hard to get himself to the football he is right now and at some stage we’d like to have him back.”

The club have discussed several succession plans for Radradra throughout the year, which includes promoting from within the squad.

The Eels have a host of talented youngsters who graduate from the NYC this year like Greg Leleisiuao, while the likes of Intrust Super Premiership players George Jennings and Nathan Davis are also options.

The vision for 2018’s left edge will become clearer in the coming weeks.

In the meantime, the priority position for the club to fill ahead of next season is a forward.

While Roosters prop Kane Evans joins their squad next year, the Eels are actively pursuing another middle.

Managers have been given a description for the type of player the club is chasing and they must have similar physical traits to that of Evans.

The Eels have plenty of low set, wrecking ball style middles with Tim Mannah, Daniel Alvaro, Suaia Matagi and Siosaia Vave on contract.

With the exception of Radradra’s exit and the addition of Evans, the club’s roster will hardly change.

They will also welcome back Bevan French and Clint Gutherson from injury in a boost for the club as they continue to develop their existing combinations.

“We can legitimately build on next year,” utility Will Smith said.

“The only person we’re missing is Semi and we get another forward in Kane Evans who’ll be a big help to our pack.

“With the team sticking around, especially with where they’ve come to now from last year, it’s going to be good.”

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nr...d/news-story/251117c647588b92fff6db8d3108b74d
Just on Evans he wasn't picked for their game against the Cowboys Does that abode well for us? Roosters picked 2 backs for their bench and Evans not good enough to make the team. Not promising,
 

Gronk

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Just on Evans, he

Just on Evans he wasn't picked for their game against the Cowboys Does that abode well for us? Roosters picked 2 backs for their bench and Evans not good enough to make the team. Not promising,

In the last two games, Robinson picked Ryan Matterson at Centre and Latrell Mitchell on the wing. That put Daniel Toupou on the bench who took a spot for a big pig.

Evans got the nod last week and Tetevano this week.

All up Evans played 16 games for the Roosters in 2017, 23 games in 2016 and 26 games in 2015.

He is 25 and not yet at his peak.

Not a crisis.
 
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Joshuatheeel

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Just on Evans, he

Just on Evans he wasn't picked for their game against the Cowboys Does that abode well for us? Roosters picked 2 backs for their bench and Evans not good enough to make the team. Not promising,

Manly were happy to release Gutherson early, didn't mean he wasn't any good!!

Peats was in NSW cup before he came to us!! Taka had no where to go!! Etc etc etc ......

All that matters is what he does next year !
 

Forty20

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If anything BA has a stellar track record with off-cuts, rejects and surplus talent from other clubs. It is the two marquee men from Manly that are the only significant blemishes on his recruitment history.

For the record, I think Evans will be a solid addition to our pack but I am not expecting a Gutherson or Brown type transformation. He won't be an offensive powerhouse for us but if he can provide a quality offload or two a game through the middle with his height and leverage that could be enough.

One thing that caught my eye when I got the chance to watch him this year for the Chooks was the ability of Evans to provide energy in defence. He has a knack for laying on a big hit without taking exorbitant risks. Beyond Brown we lack a bit of that in the middle so it will be appreciated.
 

hindy111

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Always rated Evans. Has gone backwards this season. Forwards do that and come good again.
He has size , power and an offload. 2 yrs ago I would of rated him higher then Brown. Actually go back 12-16mths and if where to pick most would of chose Evans over Brown.
 

Soren Lorenson

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In the last two games, Robinson picked Ryan Matterson at Centre and Latrell Mitchell on the wing. That put Daniel Toupou on the bench who took a spot for a big pig.

Evans got the nod last week and Tetevano this week.

All up Evans played 16 games for the Roosters in 2017, 23 games in 2016 and 26 games in 2015.

He is 25 and not yet at his peak.

Not a crisis.
I reckon in hindsight Robinson wishes he did pick him for last week. Toupou in the bench? What a waste of a spot in the rotation.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Just on Evans, he

Just on Evans he wasn't picked for their game against the Cowboys Does that abode well for us? Roosters picked 2 backs for their bench and Evans not good enough to make the team. Not promising,
Well their middle forwards didn't do too well against the Cowboys so maybe they should have picked him. Here's the stats this year for the Roosters middle forwards (I've included Nathan Brown, Alvaro, Mannah and Taumalolo for comparison):

Minutes per game:
67.5 Brown
62.6 Taumalolo
53.7 JWH
47.6 Napa
43.1 Liu
43.1 Taukeiaho
36.0 Alvaro
34.9 Mannah
31.9 Tetevano
25.6 Evans

Tackles per minute:
0.79 Alvaro
0.67 Mannah
0.58 JWH
0.55 Tetevano
0.54 Liu
0.52 Brown
0.52 Evans
0.52 Napa
0.52 Taukeiaho
0.45 Taumalolo

Tackles per attempt:
0.96 Evans
0.95 Alvaro
0.95 Liu
0.95 Taukeiaho
0.94 Mannah
0.94 Tetevano
0.93 Brown
0.93 Taumalolo
0.92 JWH
0.90 Napa

Runs per minute:
0.30 Taumalolo
0.29 Taukeiaho
0.28 Alvaro
0.28 Evans
0.26 Brown
0.26 Mannah
0.26 Tetevano
0.25 JWH
0.23 Liu
0.23 Napa

Metres per run:
11.0 Taumalolo
10.2 Mannah
9.9 JWH
9.9 Tetevano
9.7 Evans
9.7 Taukeiaho
9.5 Liu
9.0 Napa
8.9 Alvaro
8.9 Brown

Tackle breaks per run:
0.27 Taumalolo
0.16 Liu
0.14 Evans
0.10 Alvaro
0.09 Brown
0.08 JWH
0.08 Napa
0.08 Taukeiaho
0.07 Mannah
0.05 Tetevano

Offloads per run:
0.10 Brown
0.08 Evans
0.07 JWH
0.06 Taumalolo
0.03 Napa
0.02 Alvaro
0.02 Liu
0.02 Taukeiaho
0.02 Tetevano
0.01 Mannah

Errors per run:
0.06 Evans
0.04 JWH
0.04 Liu
0.02 Alvaro
0.02 Brown
0.02 Mannah
0.02 Napa
0.02 Taukeiaho
0.02 Taumalolo
0.01 Tetevano

As you can see from the stats there was no clear reason to drop Evans nor to include him (high offloads and tackle breaks are a nice way to disrupt defences, though his errors are too high). The inclusion of Taumalolo shows how much the stats don't lie. He is so far ahead of the others in an attacking sense it's no wonder the Cowboys aren't missing Matt Scott.
 

Poupou Escobar

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If anything BA has a stellar track record with off-cuts, rejects and surplus talent from other clubs. It is the two marquee men from Manly that are the only significant blemishes on his recruitment history.

For the record, I think Evans will be a solid addition to our pack but I am not expecting a Gutherson or Brown type transformation. He won't be an offensive powerhouse for us but if he can provide a quality offload or two a game through the middle with his height and leverage that could be enough.

One thing that caught my eye when I got the chance to watch him this year for the Chooks was the ability of Evans to provide energy in defence. He has a knack for laying on a big hit without taking exorbitant risks. Beyond Brown we lack a bit of that in the middle so it will be appreciated.
Evans doesn't miss many either. In attack he adds offloads, tackle breaks and metres per run that our middle forwards tend to lack. He will complement Mannah and Alvaro nicely, and I don't mean he'll be saying nice things about them.
 

Last Week

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Well their middle forwards didn't do too well against the Cowboys so maybe they should have picked him. Here's the stats this year for the Roosters middle forwards (I've included Nathan Brown, Alvaro, Mannah and Taumalolo for comparison):

Minutes per game:
67.5 Brown
62.6 Taumalolo
53.7 JWH
47.6 Napa
43.1 Liu
43.1 Taukeiaho
36.0 Alvaro
34.9 Mannah
31.9 Tetevano
25.6 Evans

Tackles per minute:
0.79 Alvaro
0.67 Mannah
0.58 JWH
0.55 Tetevano
0.54 Liu
0.52 Brown
0.52 Evans
0.52 Napa
0.52 Taukeiaho
0.45 Taumalolo

Tackles per attempt:
0.96 Evans
0.95 Alvaro
0.95 Liu
0.95 Taukeiaho
0.94 Mannah
0.94 Tetevano
0.93 Brown
0.93 Taumalolo
0.92 JWH
0.90 Napa

Runs per minute:
0.30 Taumalolo
0.29 Taukeiaho
0.28 Alvaro
0.28 Evans
0.26 Brown
0.26 Mannah
0.26 Tetevano
0.25 JWH
0.23 Liu
0.23 Napa

Metres per run:
11.0 Taumalolo
10.2 Mannah
9.9 JWH
9.9 Tetevano
9.7 Evans
9.7 Taukeiaho
9.5 Liu
9.0 Napa
8.9 Alvaro
8.9 Brown

Tackle breaks per run:
0.27 Taumalolo
0.16 Liu
0.14 Evans
0.10 Alvaro
0.09 Brown
0.08 JWH
0.08 Napa
0.08 Taukeiaho
0.07 Mannah
0.05 Tetevano

Offloads per run:
0.10 Brown
0.08 Evans
0.07 JWH
0.06 Taumalolo
0.03 Napa
0.02 Alvaro
0.02 Liu
0.02 Taukeiaho
0.02 Tetevano
0.01 Mannah

Errors per run:
0.06 Evans
0.04 JWH
0.04 Liu
0.02 Alvaro
0.02 Brown
0.02 Mannah
0.02 Napa
0.02 Taukeiaho
0.02 Taumalolo
0.01 Tetevano

As you can see from the stats there was no clear reason to drop Evans nor to include him (high offloads and tackle breaks are a nice way to disrupt defences, though his errors are too high). The inclusion of Taumalolo shows how much the stats don't lie. He is so far ahead of the others in an attacking sense it's no wonder the Cowboys aren't missing Matt Scott.

I do like how you do these posts on occasion, but is it possible for you to put the actual total aswell for the above stats? Such as, total errors, total tackles, total runs, etc etc.

I've seen stats displayed like this before and it's one error or offload can change the stat dramatically.
 
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