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Sandor Earl joins Melbourne Storm

ed-grimley

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There are different types but as a generality the peptides used for performance enhancement, are a compound form of amino-acids that act to stimulate the body to produce additional hormones such as Testosterone and Human Growth Hormones which are beneficial typically for muscle / strength gains, fat burning / weight loss or to enhance recovery / cardio-vascular endurance. For obvious reasons, most athletes try to maximise these things as much as possible within the laws of their sport. Peptides weren’t on the radar of major sports for a long time, until they became more popular due to the rate of testing for steroids and other drugs, which are more effective because they basically just push bulk Testosterone and other drugs into the athlete’s systems.

Peptides are produced synthetically and are administered through daily or more frequent sub-cutaneous injections. As they are synthetically produced versions of naturally occuring amino-acids they are thought more likely by many (Dank and others included obviously) to avoid standardised performance enhancing drug testing, that anabolic steroids and elevated HGH levels don’t, but they aim to achieve virtually the same thing as traditional performance enhancing drugs.
I understood that peptides per se do nothing to enhance performance - the player still has to do the work. In other words they just help you train harder.
Dropping a few peptides pre-game do SFA in winning a game.
Cronulla and Essendon did their money for seemingly for no return.
A storm in a teacup.
 

Tiger5150

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All this speculation of why Sandor has signed with Melbourne, all these conspiracy theories. Doesnt he have a fitness gym business in Melbourne? Isnt it that simple?
 

Pedge1971

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They might want to live there... but they arent exactly going to have better offers elsewhere. When was the last time any of these players was relevant enough to be in demand?

Bellamy is just good at taking players no one wants and getting the best out of them. So long as they have the right attitude.

Storm will never be like Broncos... where players supposedly sacrifice hundreds of thousands of dollars to play for minimum wage or not much above it (Mead. Roberts. Marshall. Sims etc.).

Yeah and getting mediocre players on.monimum wage has been good for the Broncos eh?
 

Pedge1971

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All this speculation of why Sandor has signed with Melbourne, all these conspiracy theories. Doesnt he have a fitness gym business in Melbourne? Isnt it that simple?

Yes. Except he will be spending most of his time on the Sunshine Coast.
 

POPEYE

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Yes. Except he will be spending most of his time on the Sunshine Coast.
Yes, except this is Sandor Earl we're talking about. Another great name, Beau Champion . . . not turning out to be a lay down misere ever crossed his mind
 

The_Shield

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They might want to live there... but they arent exactly going to have better offers elsewhere. When was the last time any of these players was relevant enough to be in demand?

Bellamy is just good at taking players no one wants and getting the best out of them. So long as they have the right attitude.

Storm will never be like Broncos... where players supposedly sacrifice hundreds of thousands of dollars to play for minimum wage or not much above it (Mead. Roberts. Marshall. Sims etc.).
You go on about Earl, Myles and Hoffman not being relevant enough to be in demand, but then name Mead, Marshall and Sims in your argument for the Broncos. When was the last time any of them were in demand?
 

mxlegend99

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You go on about Earl, Myles and Hoffman not being relevant enough to be in demand, but then name Mead, Marshall and Sims in your argument for the Broncos. When was the last time any of them were in demand?
All 3 literally knocked back MUCH bigger offers to join Broncos on minimum wage. They were wanted by atleast one or more other clubs and chose the lowest offer available.

Dragons had offered $300k to Marshall. But that was insulting to him.
Knights had Sims on a $400k contract.
Mead was earning $200k+ at Titans who wanted to keep him.

Yet none of those offers compared to a minimum wage contract at Broncos to play reserve grade. Argue all you want about what you think they're worth. They still sacrificed (supposedly) big money to join Broncos. None of Earl, Myles or Hoffman did. They took what was likely their only offer .. or chose between offers of the same amount.
 

veggiepatch1959

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Peptides are produced synthetically and are administered through daily or more frequent sub-cutaneous injections.
Bullshit.

Did you know that milk, eggs, some grains and soybeans have naturally occurring peptides?

That's why dudes who want to bulk up devour protein containing foods like there's no tomorrow.

Remember: amino acids ----> peptides ----> proteins.
 

Generalzod

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Bullshit.

Did you know that milk, eggs, some grains and soybeans have naturally occurring peptides?

That's why dudes who want to bulk up devour protein containing foods like there's no tomorrow.

Remember: amino acids ----> peptides ----> proteins.
I know a body builder who eats like 4 chickens a day..
 

ed-grimley

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All 3 literally knocked back MUCH bigger offers to join Broncos on minimum wage. They were wanted by atleast one or more other clubs and chose the lowest offer available.

Dragons had offered $300k to Marshall. But that was insulting to him.
Knights had Sims on a $400k contract.
Mead was earning $200k+ at Titans who wanted to keep him.

Yet none of those offers compared to a minimum wage contract at Broncos to play reserve grade. Argue all you want about what you think they're worth. They still sacrificed (supposedly) big money to join Broncos. None of Earl, Myles or Hoffman did. They took what was likely their only offer .. or chose between offers of the same amount.
Who are we praising or criticising here?
 

Mister M

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All 3 literally knocked back MUCH bigger offers to join Broncos on minimum wage. They were wanted by atleast one or more other clubs and chose the lowest offer available.

Dragons had offered $300k to Marshall. But that was insulting to him.
Knights had Sims on a $400k contract.
Mead was earning $200k+ at Titans who wanted to keep him.

Yet none of those offers compared to a minimum wage contract at Broncos to play reserve grade. Argue all you want about what you think they're worth. They still sacrificed (supposedly) big money to join Broncos. None of Earl, Myles or Hoffman did. They took what was likely their only offer .. or chose between offers of the same amount.

This is not factual, at least confirmed in the case of Nate Myles. Myles was signed to a 3 year deal with the Sea Eagles that kept him at the club until 2018 if he had choose to stay in Sydney, there's no money mentioned in the below article but it's safe to assume that when he signed that deal he was on MUCH more than a minimum contract leaving the Titans when he was captain.

http://www.seaeagles.com.au/news/2015/05/13/sea_eagles_announce_.html

Myles had only just played in Origin Game I (admittedly a poor performance, but still an Origin quality player) in the weeks before he transferred to the Storm, without the guarantee of a contract for 2018.

The reason Nate Myles did this was because he wanted to live in Melbourne so that his wife Tessa could be around family when they had their first child together.

We don't know if any other club offered Sandor Earl money because it wasn't made public; Earl may've only agreed to play for the Storm because he has a life set up here now with his gym and social circles. I know people are saying "but he will spend all his time on the sunshine coast", even as a reserve Earl will train with the core group in Melbourne during 2018 and only fly up to the Sunshine Coast to play reserve games.

...and Storm wasn't Ryan Hoffman's only offer from rumoured reports that the Rooster, Knights and Super League teams all enquired about his services in 2018. But Hoffman choose to return to Melbourne, because he's got friends here that he wants to play alongside and he still owns a house here and intends to live here post-retirement.

I believe my statement stands that it's great to see Melbourne actually be able to be a willing home or 'destination' for these players of quality and note despite their being little chance any will be on run-on side, with only Hoffman likely to be in the Round 1 team of 17.
 
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