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  1. Jimbo

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    Did I really hear the proponent of a 50% RET complaining yesterday about 'power prices going through the roof?'

    Is he upset that they aren't rising fast enough?
     
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  2. Bandwagon

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    Because a target that does not exist is responsible for said price rises?
     
  3. Jimbo

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    Because renewable energy subsidies are contributing to higher energy prices, and increasing them (as per Bill's policy which very much exists) will make an unnecessarily bad situation much worse
     
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    Yes but a new carbon tax will bring the prices down

    It's bills plan to reduce electricity use by making it cheaper by putting a tax on it
     
  5. Bandwagon

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    Ahh I see, but what of the other factors that are contributing to higher prices? Do they not matter?
     
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    The removal of the carbon tax saw in general around a nine percent drop in energy bills, from which we can deduce that whilst in force it added around the same no?

    Yet the latest round of increases being mooted will exceed that amount by far, not to mention increases already loaded into the price since the CT was abolished.

    What gives mate? The entire system is broken from the consumer point of view, from providers, generators and infrastructure however there's a f**king motza being made.

    But of course it's all the windmills fault.
     
  7. Surely

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    The closure of coal power generators is what gives.
     
  8. Jimbo

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    Oh, of course. Thanks Millers

    I must admit I find Labornomics a little hard to understand sometimes
     
  9. Jimbo

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    Of course they matter

    Why make a bad situation much worse though?
     
  10. sensesmaybenumbed

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    How about hockeynomics?
     
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    Oh, I see, do you think that is the primary cause on it's own, or would you accept that a lack of planning and certainty around investment in generation is where the problem lies, I'd argue the latter.

    I'd also argue that despite that, the wholesale price of generation hasn't risen at nearly the rate that the bill you receive from your retail provider has.
     
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    Indeed, do you think perhaps that all things being equal, the situation could be made better regardless of the RET?

    That just maybe the whole lot is a complete clusterf**k from successive state and federal governments that does not serve us well at all?
     
  13. Jimbo

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    Less spending leads to a lower deficit?

    Hard to argue with the theory
     
  14. sensesmaybenumbed

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    Nah. Everyone just needed to get a better job.
     
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    Lack of inexpensive generation , over investment by state govts in transmission expenditure to take advantage of guaranteed returns, paid for by those subsidising solar inputs to the network.
     
  16. Jimbo

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    I don't recall that as being an actual part of Hockey's budget strategy Sensie
     
  17. sensesmaybenumbed

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    I don't recall being under any obligation to be serious about his inept tenure as treasurer, Jimmie.
     
  18. Jimbo

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    I don't recall asking for your opinion in the first place Sensie
     
  19. sensesmaybenumbed

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    Oh dear.
     
  20. Jimbo

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    You seem triggeeeeeeered Sensie
     

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