Tension on the peninsula

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  1. Spanner in the works

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  2. Desert Qlder

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    War as distraction, with Australia blindly following.
     
  3. Collateral

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    I don't think WW3...More like the Korean War 2.
     
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    It would all depend on China's position and actions. There is no way the US will want to engage NK in a military action should China stand right behind them. Even without China's support of NK, I can't see the US wanting to escalate the situation to all out war.
     
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    Maybe not .But sending in more aircraft carriers after the response in Syria ,together with Trumps own words ....pretty easy to get the ' wrong idea "
    Isnt that always the tactic?...let the other guy get cranky so it looks like its all his doing?
     
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    A distraction from what?
     
  7. Spanner in the works

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    Maybe they won't be able to control it? Trump doesn't appear to be entirely rational, Kim Jong Un is much the same, and Xi is not going to want a united Korea - which may lean to the West - on his doorstep.

    Here's a couple of scenarios that seem entirely plausible:

    Pyongyang, on the brink of defeat, desperately launches one final attack, which involves an attack on Seoul using a tactical nuke, the use of sarin gas on Tokyo, and the sinking of a US carrier by their remaining sub/bomber/navy/etc. All three nations then escalate their commitment by committing ground troops to secure the peninsula, which China views as unacceptable, and China then commits ground troops also. It then becomes a race for Berlin-type scenario, with the chance of an accident increasing significantly.

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    A US-led strike accidentally kills Chinese troops, with Beijing reciprocating by striking US troops basedin soul, and an unstable Trump decides to return fire.

    Maybe China won't protect North Korea and will want to stay out of it, but often enough with wars the options narrow so much that war becomes inevitable.
     
  8. Pommy

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    China must know the situation in Korea is untenable. I wonder if they are making moves to find a general or somebody in the NK regime who isn't bat shit crazy and can essentially be a puppet for Beijing and then back them in a coup.
     
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    Corruption, collusion and incompetence.
     
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    China will yank the chain if things start going too far. Last thing they need is their proxy rabid dog nuking someone.
     
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    But his supporters still think he's ace, look at Alien. This is only going to put the spotlight on him from his haters. Assuming its trump your talking about.
     
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    I thought this thread was about the sea eagles board
     
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    Can they? A lot of current and past commentary seems to indicate they have very little control over them. Ranges from mass influx of migrants, an erratic leader, a medieval ruling system, sanctioned to near non-existence already etc etc.
     
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    Get those easter tin foil hats out mate lol

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    So I wasn't the only one.
     
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    China Warns of ‘Storm Clouds Gathering’ in U.S.-North Korea Standoff
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/14/world/asia/north-korea-china-nuclear.html

    Is North Korea nuclear crisis reaching a showdown?
    http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1041998.shtml
    (This is a state-sanctioned article out of China, but it's quite good)


    Also, looks like they showed off a whole new bunch of equipment at the parade - new transporter erector launchers (TELs), a new ICBM, transporters with what look like ICBM canisters attached (no idea what's in them), etc. Wouldn't underestimate the TELs - they can build a lot of them, and that means they have a lot more missiles than we might know of, and what might be of most importance is that they are easy to hide from a satellite. Only need North Korea to have one or two succesful nuclear launches and we are in a world of hurt.

    On another note, every time they have that parade I come away thinking there's several million North Koreans willing to run into the fires of hell with Kim Jong-un...
     
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    Whether or not it ends up as WW3 or Korean War 2 depends on two things. Firstly, if China and Russia involve themselves and how.Secondly, If North Korea use a nuclear bomb.

    Regardless, this is not going to be very good.
     
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    What is the end game for North Korea?

    They are on their third generation lunatic now, and each one is worse than the one before...

    Even if nothing happens in this latest round of posturing, does this situation have a peaceful ending in the years/decade ahead?

    It won't be after they perfect their long range missiles I suspect...
     

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