Tension on the peninsula

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  1. Bandwagon

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    Forgetting China and Russia for a moment, the whole peninsula goes up in flames, that's a shit load of innocent people wasted. for what?
     
  2. Bandwagon

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    NK won't launch unless they felt they were going down any ways, they aint that crazy.
     
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  3. AJB1102

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    No doubt, mate. If NK were some contained little trouble that could be eliminated without affecting others this wouldn't be a conversation.

    But NK v US won't be much of a war. The results of such a short lived conflict though would be huge.
     
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    I agree. Like I've said, I don't think they have the same confidence in their afterlife that extremist terrorists have that they're willing to die for the cause.

    I don't think they're in this to fire a couple shots and be annihilated. There is room for diplomacy.
     
  5. Mr Spock!

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    Well the post I repsonded to was that the US would nuke North Korea and that would be the end of it....
     
  6. Collateral

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    Glad to see your sarcasm filter is working.
     
  7. Mr Spock!

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    Has North Korea only been around since Clinton?
     
  8. AJB1102

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    Well it would be the end of NK.

    Whether China or Russia wanted to double down on that would depend on a few things. I tend to think MAD would then come into it and things would probably level out again.

    Russia and China might stick up for their little mate to a certain degree, but once they're gone for good priorities will change. They're unlikely to go nuclear war to avenge the death of NK.
     
  9. Mr Spock!

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    Really???

    In a sense they are a religious cult.

    In fact several North Korean submarines have been captured by the South Koreans when they've been beached only to find the crews inside had suicided or been shot.
     
  10. Mr Spock!

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    It could well be the end of South Korea as well.
     
  11. Mr Spock!

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    My bs filter certainly is.
     
  12. AJB1102

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    Sending minions to die is nothing. They starve their own while the Kims live like kings.

    There will be no consideration for Supreme Leaders over peasants if the US military unleash.
     
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    Have you tried upgrading to the new iOS?
     
  14. AJB1102

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    Could be? I'd almost guarantee it. Perhaps not total destruction but they'd suffer no doubt. Massive death tolls too not just some minor collateral damage. I'd bank on Seoul being rained on with at the least traditional airborne artillery. They can 100% hit SK with anything they got. Japan a fair chance too.

    This is the reason they can make these sorts of threats and live to see another day. If they weren't surrounded by who they are, they'd be gone.

    Very tricky situation, Mr Spock.
     
  15. Mr Spock!

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    As all US presidents have found...

    Eisenhower threatened to nuke both China and North Korea but neither of them had nukes of their own.
     
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    The Kim will know after Saddam and Gaddafi what is in store for him.....

    That's why he wants nukes.
     
  17. Bandwagon

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    Their want for them predates the demise of both those chaps. It's just up until now they've had to suffice with a huge army and plenty of missiles and artillery pointed at Seoul, and a defacto nuclear deterrent in both Russia and China.
     
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    I hope they catch that fat f**ker alive and gets the Saddam treatment
     
  19. Mr Spock!

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    Yeah, thats not gonna happen.
     
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    Not so.....

    How Kim Jong Il Reacted To The 2003 Invasion of Iraq
    This Day In The History Of the DPRK: March 20, 2003

    Pyongyang, however, demanded security guarantees upfront. Stalemated ensued, leading North Korea to withdraw from the Non-Proliferation Treaty on January 10. Thereafter, Bush declared in his State of the Union Address in 2003:

    …the North Korean regime is using its nuclear program to incite fear and seek concessions. America and the world will not be blackmailed…The North Korean regime will find respect in the world and revival for its people only when it turns away from its nuclear ambitions.

    "Despite those comments, many American officials, convinced that the North Korean state would soon fall apart, sought one overarching goal: regime change. As a result, Pyongyang complained that the U.S. negotiating position was “virtually a demand that we yield. Yielding means death.”

    As the bombs fell on Iraq two months later, only one weapon—Kim Jong Il understood—could prevent the chance of a foreign attack on North Korea."

    https://www.nknews.org/2013/03/how-kim-jong-il-reacted-to-the-2003-invasion-of-iraq/
     

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