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The Comic Book Film Thread *** SPOILERS ***

shiznit

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The numbers black panther is doing at the box office are staggering...

Love them or hate them... you gotta give it to Marvel/Disney... they almost just print money at the box office.
 

Frederick

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A Closer Look at 'Black Panther's Record Smashing Opening
by Brad Brevet
February 20, 2018


Actual grosses for the weekend are in and Black Panther continues to break more and more records after becoming only the fifth film to ever deliver over $200 million in its first three days of release and the second largest four-day gross in history. Those, however, are just some of the highlights from this past weekend and we'll begin by taking a look at the film's performance, beginning with the charts where Black Panther sits at #1.


  • LARGEST THURSDAY PREVIEW GROSS IN THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY - $25.2 million
    PREVIOUS RECORD HOLDER: Deadpool ($12.7 million

Beyond those charts, Black Panther places second only to Star Wars: The Force Awakens, as the second highest four-day gross of all-time and the second largest Sunday of all-time by just $485,750.

Black Panther also places second only to The Avengers on several charts, including the second highest opening for a comic book adaptation, for a film in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, for a Marvel Comic adaptation and for a superhero movie. For that matter, within the Marvel Cinematic Universe, Black Pantherhas already outgrossed the lifetime domestic totals for Doctor Strange ($232.6m), Thor: The Dark World($206.3m), Thor ($181m), Ant-Man ($180.2m), Captain America: The First Avenger ($176.6m) and The Incredible Hulk ($134.8m) and will top Captain America: The Winter Soldier ($259.7m) once Tuesday grosses arrive.

The film also led the three-day weekend which saw the seventh largest gap between first and second place as it topped Peter Rabbit by $185.5 million. Going further, the overall four-day weekend saw that gap grow into the second largest gap, topping Peter Rabbit by $218.7 million. This past weekend was also the third largest weekend overall with the top twelve delivering a combined $270.9 million, of which Black Pantheraccounted for nearly 75%.

Debuting in 4,020 theaters, Black Panther's per theater average for the three-day weekend was a massive $50,250, the third largest ever. Even more eye-opening, Black Panther's theater count was the smallest among the top fifteen openings of all-time and second only to Furious 7 in the top 25.

Internationally, despite not debuting in China (March 9), Japan (March 1) or Russia, the film still delivered the 15th largest worldwide debut of all-time. The film also posted the highest grossing February opening of all-time in the UK and Ireland ($24.9m), the Netherlands ($2.4m), Mexico ($9.2m), Brazil ($9.5m) and Colombia ($1.8m).

Looking ahead, it's impossible to determine just how high Black Panther's domestic total will climb after an opening of this size. Deadpool delivered a 2.74x multiplier after opening over the same weekend in 2016, which when applied to Black Panther's opening, translates to a domestic run over $550 million. Looking at the multipliers for the four other films that opened over $200 million — The Force Awakens, Star Wars: The Last Jedi, Jurassic World and The Avengers — they range from Force Awakens' stellar 3.78x to a 2.81x multiplier for The Last Jedi, which is in the tail end of its domestic run. While it would be unreasonable to expect Black Panther to perform on the scale of Force Awakens, the three other multipliers suggest a domestic run from $567-631 million.

Things do get a little less optimistic when you consider the 2.4x multiplier for Avengers: Age of Ultron and 2.28x multiplier for Captain America: Civil War, which would put Black Panther's domestic run anywhere from $460-485 million.

Overall, it feels relatively safe to expect a domestic run over $550 million, which would make Black Panther the seventh largest domestic performance of all-time and the second largest in the MCU, behind only The Avengers ($623.3m). That said, should it follow The Avengers and delivers a 3x multiplier we're looking at a $605M+ run at the domestic box office, while a performance closer to Jurassic World's run pushes that total over $630 million.

Where it goes internationally will be interesting to watch, four films in the Marvel Cinematic Universe have topped $1 billion worldwide. Will Black Panther become the fifth?

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=4372&p=.htm
 

Frederick

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One more bit of trivia:

Black Panther has already made more money in the US in 4 days than Justice League has made in 95 days
 

McNulty

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CBB quoting

We already knew about Wakanda
We already knew they were very advanced with their tech - as seen in Civil War
We already knew about vibranium

This movie was a decent origin story and a good intro to characters who will feature in Infinity War.

The best and most under utilised charachter in this movie and possible the whole MCU died early on - ulysses klaue. What a missed opportunity!!!
 

Last Week

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I'm curious, what does it take for people to think a movie is good?

Im finding that alot of people these days offer an opposing opinion to others and it can come across as bias. Is it all to do with a positive or negative outlook?

Do you want action? Relatable characters? Consistent storyline? Comedy? Grittiness?

I'm pretty easily pleased, and I like most movies for what they are. I've enjoyed every Marvel movie with Ragnarok being my least favorite and Civil War my most. I've enjoyed all DC movies with BvS being my favorite and JL being my least. Both new star wars I've enjoyed. I enjoyed all the X Men with First Class being my favorite and Apocalypse being the least.

I can look past the flaws and get enjoyment out of most movies. Some people seem to think they're experts or Academy judges.
 

Game_Breaker

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I'm curious, what does it take for people to think a movie is good?

Im finding that alot of people these days offer an opposing opinion to others and it can come across as bias. Is it all to do with a positive or negative outlook?

Do you want action? Relatable characters? Consistent storyline? Comedy? Grittiness?

I'm pretty easily pleased, and I like most movies for what they are. I've enjoyed every Marvel movie with Ragnarok being my least favorite and Civil War my most. I've enjoyed all DC movies with BvS being my favorite and JL being my least. Both new star wars I've enjoyed. I enjoyed all the X Men with First Class being my favorite and Apocalypse being the least.

I can look past the flaws and get enjoyment out of most movies. Some people seem to think they're experts or Academy judges.

I liked black panther

I just don’t get sucked into the hype of best ‘MCU movie ever’ - it’s not

The plot and characters are the top things I look at when I judge a movie

Other things like costume, setting, soundtrack etc. can certainly make a good movie better but I don’t judge a movie based on that
 

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Mark Millar Has An Interesting About Theory Why Marvel Movies Work And DC Movies Don't

Germain Lussier
Feb 25, 2018, 11:30am

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Tony Stark and Doctor Strange in Infinity War; Aquaman, Wonder Woman and Cyborg in Justice League.Screenshot: Disney/Warner Bros,


Marvel vs. DC is a debate that keeps on giving. It's been filtered through every medium imaginable and, in recent years, played out in grand fashion at the movies. However, while Marvel Studios has had a very impressive string of critical and commercial successes, DC Films has struggled to do the same.

How and why this is the case isn't a question anyone can definitely answer. Hell, some people would disagree entirely, saying the DC movies are wonderful and Marvel movies are bad. But one person who knows both the comic book and film business, Mark Millar, has an idea. Millar has written for both companies and has penned some of their most memorable storylines ever. He's also created characters that have been brought to life on the big screen. And in a recent interview, Yahoo asked why he thinks DC hasn't been able to match Marvel's success.

"I think it's really simple," Millar said. "The [DC] characters aren't cinematic."

Strap in everyone.

"And I say [that] as a massive DC fan who much prefers their characters to Marvel's. Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman are some of my favourites but I think these characters, with the exception of Batman, they aren't based around their secret identity. They are based around their super power. Whereas the Marvel characters tend to be based around the personality of Matt Murdock or Peter Parker or the individual X-Men, it's all about the character. DC, outside of Batman, is not about the character. With Batman, you can understand him and you can worry about him but someone like Green Lantern, he has this ring that allows him to create 3D physical manifestations and green plasma with the thoughts in his head but he's allergic to the colour yellow! How do you make a movie with that? In 1952 that made perfect sense but now the audience have no idea what that's all about."

Millar continued, very aware his comments could start some major crap.

"People will slam me for this but I think the evidence is there. We've seen great directors, great writers and great actors, tonnes of money thrown at them, but these films aren't working. I think they are all too far away from when they were created. Something feels a little old about them, kids look at these characters and they don't feel that cool. Even Superman, I love Superman, but he belongs to an America that doesn't exist anymore. He represents 20th Century America and I think he peaked then."

Millar's thinking here is sound but, of course, not all encompassing. We saw a Wonder Woman movie work perfectly last year. Superman movies have worked in the past as well. DC characters can make great cinematic heroes. But it's a fine line - and, now, another interesting argument to throw onto the debate.

The next DC movie coming to theatres will be Aquaman this December. It will be followed in April 2019 by Shazam, which is currently filming. Marvel currently has Black Panther in theatres, with Avengers: Infinity War and Ant-Man and the Wasp due later this year.

https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2018/02/...ry-why-marvel-movies-work-and-dc-movies-dont/
 

LESStar58

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Just watched Black Panther.

I really, really liked it

Warmonger was badass, the sister was really cool and I thought Serkis was awesome with what limited time he had.
 
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With Batman, you can understand him and you can worry about him but someone like Green Lantern, he has this ring that allows him to create 3D physical manifestations and green plasma with the thoughts in his head but he's allergic to the colour yellow! How do you make a movie with that? In 1952 that made perfect sense but now the audience have no idea what that's all about."

Pfft, what would Millar know. The Yellow vulnerability has not been an issue in Green Lantern for nearly 15 years, and had he bothered to read the works of any of his fellow writers would know this was very well explained when they brought back Hal Jordan as Green Lantern in the comics in 2005. Also says he's another writer who does not know anything about how to write for a DC character other than Batman.If this came from Geoff Johns (unlikely considering his current job at DC),Dan Jurgens or Denny O'Neil, then maybe I'd listen but Millar? Pfft, hardly.
 

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