The Conspiracy Theories Thread

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  1. Surely

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    Can you please show an example of any other instance where people run towards a gunman that is supposedly hiding and firing shots.

    It defies logic, panicked people just don't do that.
     
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    My son doing modern History in year 11 he is currently learning about the JFK assasination and conspiracy...
     
  3. Collateral

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    Eyewitness testimony from the event states otherwise.

    Plenty of times in history where people reacted proactively to danger. The assassination of JFKs brother, for example.
     
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    The deed had already been done the people reacted to what they saw and heard that the gun shot and smoke come from the grassy knoll, do you honestly think that the person who did it would have stayed to chat to the people who where running towards the fence, he would have been long gone...
     
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  5. millersnose

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    lol

    so these overweight old women were bolting after the gunman to make a citizens arrest

    and you guys offer this as compelling evidence

    hahahaha
     
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  6. Generalzod

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    Do you always have to label people (Old overweight Women) lol like you honestly believe in the magic bullet theory, I guess than you believe in a man that walked on water????
     
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    i have no reason to disbelieve the official version of events and I have seen the forensic studies, some cited in this very thread, that show nothing unusual about the bullet trajectory.

    bullets do weird things

    a bullett that bounces around is not unusual nor is a bunch of people, upon hearing firing, running to a safer place..like ..where they didnt hear firing

    went hunting once as a teenager when some drop kick with us fired on an old abandoned car with a shotgun and the fargin thing gave us a shower of birdshot in return

    I urge you to treat claims in silly conspiracy theory sites and oliver stone movies as suspect and see if you can compile a case for your conspiracy theories from hard evidence
     
  8. Mr Spock!

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    Yawn....are we going over all this again??

    Modern forensics has debunked the whole magic bullet myth,,,,
     
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  9. Generalzod

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    Back and to the left
     
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  10. Collateral

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    So, because your friend is an idiot; that disproves the Kennedy Assassination conspiracies?
     
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    Modern forensics also discounted Oswald as a possibility for firing that particular rifle, yet you choose to ignore that.
     
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    Did they, I've seen forensics that said he was easily capable
     
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    They would have been disappointed.

    It was probably already lying on the stretcher in Parkland Memorial Hospital by that stage.
     
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    Some of them were even stopped by guys identifying themselves as "Secret Service Agents" this is despite the fact that The Secret Service deny they had any other agents in Dealey that day aside from those on the motorcade.

    It's strange that the Warren Commission didn't think this was worth investigating further.

    It's strange that not one of the enlightened Warren Commission Apologists in here thinks that's strange.
     
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    They also choose to ignore the fact that they found bullet fragments in Connally's wounds that were inconsistent with the minimal loss of jacket on the magic bullet.

    Or the fragments found in Kennedys head and in the limousine are inconsistent with an identical 6.5mm full metal jacket bullet that the Warren Commission would have us believe would cause 7 wounds through two bodies and shatter thicker bone in Connally's wrist yet show up on a hospital stretcher intact.

    Or that no one saw Oswald on the 6th floor even close to the time of the shooting.

    Or that Oswald was interrogated for hours after the assassination without anyone recording the interrogation.
     
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    So the people all ran from where the gunshots came to take a look....

    Yeah right....

    Here's a whole heap of videos showing people reacting to gunshots....

    They run AWAY....

    https://www.google.com.au/search?q=...hpPWAhWCi7wKHWCuBjIQ_AUICygC&biw=1920&bih=974
     
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    Why Oswald is the lone gunman....

    1. Lee Harvey Oswald owned the rifle found on the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository on Friday afternoon, November 22, 1963.

    2. Oswald owned the handgun that was shown to have been used in the murder of Dallas Police Officer J.D. Tippit.

    3. Oswald was positively identified by witness Howard L. Brennan as the person firing a rifle at JFK on 11/22/63. ...And to believe that Brennan was "influenced" by TV and newspaper reports showing Oswald before Brennan positively identified LHO, we must remember that Brennan's INITIAL description of the killer very closely matched Oswald, given to police within minutes of the shooting (prior to 12:44 PM).

    4. Marina Oswald admits to having taken pictures of Lee with these weapons on his person, which (all by itself) validates the "Backyard Photographs". But even if conspiracists wish to think that Marina is a liar, there's the fact that the HSCA [House Select Committee on Assassinations] panel of photo experts vouched for the backyard pictures (and the autopsy photos and X-rays, to boot).

    5. Buell Wesley Frazier observed Oswald take a package into the Book Depository Building on the morning of November 22nd, 1963. Frazier said (via his 11/22/63 affidavit): "I saw him go in the back door at the Loading Dock of the building that we work in, and he still had the package under his arm."

    6. Oswald's claim of "curtain rods" within the package cannot be supported at all. His room needed no curtains, nor rods, and no such rods were ever found in the TSBD [Texas School Book Depository] or at his residence at 1026 N. Beckley Avenue in Oak Cliff.

    7. Oswald was seen working on the Depository's sixth floor that morning. LHO even asked a co-worker (Charles Givens) to send an elevator back up to him on the sixth floor shortly before the assassination. This fact, of course, doesn't nearly prove Oswald was guilty of a crime; but what it does do is place him on the Death Floor(alone) a short time (approximately 35 minutes) before Kennedy's assassination. This fact, too, is a solid piece of often-overlooked or scoffed-at circumstantial evidence. [I think the use of "death floor" here is prejudicial, but doesn't disprove the basic point.--JP]

    8. Oswald's palmprint [Warren Commission Exhibit #637] is found on his Mannlicher-Carcano rifle after the assassination.

    9. It was proven that the alias "A.J. Hidell" [the alias used to purchase the rifle] was actually Oswald himself; and the order form from Klein's Sporting Goods to purchase the mail-order rifle was positively proven to have been in Oswald's handwriting, and sent to a Dallas post-office box that was used by him.

    10. Not ONE SPECK of any bullets/bullet fragments/bullet shells OTHER THAN THOSE COMING FROM OSWALD'S 6.5-MILLIMETER MANNLICHER-CARCANO RIFLE were discovered anywhere in Dealey Plaza, the limousine, the TSBD, Parkland Hospital, or in the victims.

    11. The majority of Dealey Plaza witnesses said shots came from behind the President, in the direction of the School Book Depository Building.

    In addition, an even larger percentage of witnesses said they heard EXACTLY three shots fired. No more, no less. And three spent shells (co-incidentally?) were found in the Sniper's Nest.

    12. EVERY SINGLE ONE (if not 100%) of the newsmen and reporters riding in the motorcade in Dealey Plaza, who were in a position to immediately report the shooting to the world via media outlets (radio, television, and newswire services), heard EXACTLY THREE SHOTS FIRED.

    13. Oswald makes an unusual trip to Irving on Thursday, November 21, 1963, to retrieve his "curtain rods". His rifle is found missing from Ruth Paine's garage the following day.

    But, interestingly, some curtain rods, which Mrs. Paine testified she DID have in her garage prior to the assassination (via 1986 questioning of her by Vincent Bugliosi during the TV Docu-Trial "On Trial: Lee Harvey Oswald"), were STILL IN HER GARAGE AFTER NOVEMBER 22.

    14. Oswald left behind, presumably for wife Marina, his wedding ring and just about every dime he had to his name ($170), on the morning of 11/22/63. [That alone doesn't prove Oswald's guilt, but it strongly suggests that Oswald didn't think he was coming back from work on November 22.]

    15. Oswald was the only Depository employee known to have been INSIDE the Depository Building at the time of the assassination to leave work prematurely on Friday, November 22nd.

    16. Oswald, in flight, shoots and kills Dallas patrolman J.D. Tippit on 10th Street in the Dallas suburb of Oak Cliff. Multiple witnesses confirm it was Oswald who shot Officer Tippit.

    17. Oswald, just days after acquiring his Carcano weapon, attempts to murder retired General Edwin Walker in Dallas, on April 10, 1963. Marina Oswald herself testifies that "Lee told me...he just shot Walker". [Conspiracy theorists almost never have an explanation for why Lee Harvey Oswald shot at General Walker or why the bullet fired at General Walker was fired from the same gun that shot JFK.]

    18. It was also proven that Oswald could have indeed travelled, in 90 seconds or less, the distance across the sixth floor of the TSBD and descended the four flights of stairs in time to have been seen by policeman Marrion L. Baker on the building's second floor. [Oliver Stone's JFK and other conspiracy materials claim Oswald couldn't have possibly made it from the 6th floor where the sniper's nest was to the lunchroom where Oswald was spotted about 90 seconds later. Demonstrations done by the Warren Commission and other researchers say otherwise.]
     
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    An End to Conspiracy? Rare Photo of Lee Harvey Oswald's Arrest Suggests Why He's Guilty

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    MacCammon, who died in 2005, captured a moment that says so much about the soon-to-be-accused assassin and why so many still do not believe Oswald was the sole killer of President Kennedy and the killer of Dallas Police officer J.D. Tippit.

    As reported at the time, when police led him out of the theater, Oswald shouted: I protest this police brutality and I am not resisting arrest!

    Oh? Moments earlier, as cops approached him, Oswald suddenly punched Officer Nick McDonald in the face, drew a revolver from his waistband and tried to shoot him. McDonald jammed his hand on the gun and prevented it from firing as other officers pummeled Oswald to the floor, sat him in a seat and cuffed him.

    Do innocent people take guns to the movies, assault a police officer and try to shoot him? Does an innocent person start a fight with an armed policeman, then act surprised and angry when the policeman and others defend one of their own?

    Such is the enigma of Lee Harvey Oswald, who spent the last 48 hours of his life denying he had shot anyone rather than taking credit for removing a president and a cop -- two fathers cut down in their prime.

    http://time.com/3804560/an-end-to-c...arvey-oswalds-arrest-suggests-why-hes-guilty/
     
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    Hell anyone in Texas can carry a gun...Further more Oswald wasn't even charged with Kennedy's assassination,..So if the above picture proves that Oswald was the sole shooter, Why did Ruby kill him and who allowed Ruby access to the Police buildings basement????

     
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