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The corruption of the AFL is slowly being exposed.

sportive cupid

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More AFL hypocrisy.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/la...-daw-sex-charges/story-fni0fee2-1226973364328

They allow this bloke to play after being charged with 3 counts of rape.

Why are not the media blowing up deluxe about this? Where is the outrage? Unf**kingbelievable!

Chook.

Lol.you post an article about the community being outraged by this ...and you use it to ask the question" why aren't the media blowing up".?

They f**kin are Chook ! ( well according to your article from a mainstream tabloid) lol
 

Chook

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Shut up Stupid Cupid you genius. The bloke was charged with 3 counts of rape, one of a teenager, yet is allowed to play.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/af...lub-selfreported/story-fnelctok-1226975648048

THE AFL has sensationally revealed it sent specimens from Essendon players to Germany during 2012 — months before the club “self-reported” to the league and ASADA.

A video emerged yesterday where AFL chief medical officer Dr Peter Harcourt stated that the AFL had caught “wind” that the Bombers were using exotic drugs.

Harcourt’s explosive claims were made in an address to an anti-doping conference in Zurich last November and seized on by lawyers for suspended Essendon coach James Hird in the Federal Court today.
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There needs to be an independent enquiry into the AFL's handling of this drug issues from day one.

There have been conflicting bullshit from this sports organisation from day one. The AFL tried to arrange secret deals, they threatened people with court action, got threatened with court action, paid people off and outright lied about what occurred and who occurred it.

Chook.
 

miguel de cervantes

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http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...ga-becomes-afls-watergate-20140703-zsurt.html

Former AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou had already expressed publicly his concerns about the creeping influence of sports science in the game, but denied repeatedly that he knew specific details about the club or clubs involved prior to Essendon’s “self-reporting” in February last year.
Are we supposed to swallow the possibility that the AFL’s chief medical officer was as worried by what was going on as his conference speech indicated, yet somehow failed to alert his boss to those concerns?
Pretty hard to believe. As is this mantra uttered by AFL Commission chairman Mike Fitzpatrick when finally announcing sanctions against Essendon in late August last year: “Two of our principles are absolute non-negotiables – the health and safety of the players and the overall integrity of the AFL competition.”
Given the delays between the initial warning to Essendon, the sending of blood samples overseas and Wednesday’s revelation of the latter, you’d swear there was a third principle involved: making sure nobody finds out about this stuff.
A layman’s reading of the timeline involved would go like this: the AFL told Essendon to “watch out” then closed its eyes and stuck its fingers in its ears for 12 months. Then it got the all-clear on those peptide tests and hoped it would all go away again. Then it prayed for another year until it was effectively sprung on Wednesday that some big-noting on the other side of the world wouldn’t make it back to these shores.
It has, and now there is another host of questions to be answered. And hopefully now, in the AFL’s own Watergate, comes the realisation by the league and the other parties in this saga that cover-ups almost always come a cropper eventually.

Whoever collates all this muck and puts out the novel will make a motza, at least in the Victorian market.
 

sportive cupid

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Shut up Stupid Cupid you genius. The bloke was charged with 3 counts of rape, one of a teenager, yet is allowed to play.

Yes.And you complained about the media not crucifying him when they clearly did.

genius? Is that the best you can do?
 

Chook

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http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/af...o-drug-addiction/story-fnelctok-1226977036622

AFL chief medico Dr Peter Harcourt has made the dramatic admission the league was forced to “retire” three players for drug addiction.

Three other AFL stars had to “temporarily withdraw” from playing because of their illicit drugs problems, he said.

Speaking last November in the same address in which he revealed the league had “wind” of a possible performance enhancing drug problem at Essendon in 2012, Harcourt detailed how the league used intelligence gathered under the voluntary illicit drugs policy to identify targets for anti-doping tests.

He said the AFL had a group of players who were “basically disengaged, probably a bit narcissistic, a bit anti-social” and who “have clearly got some regular criminal contacts”.

In listing the clinical issues confronted in the eight years of the illicit drugs policy, Harcourt also said five players had been identified as having “attitude and personality-type issues”.

“We’ve had three athletes with psychotic-induced reactions to illicit drugs; three athletes we had to retire because they weren’t able to control their addiction; we’ve had one player get to three strikes (and) we’ve had three athletes that had to withdraw temporarily because they had substance abuse issues that needed to be treated,” Harcourt said.

“We’ve had five athletes use their illicit substance use as a means of treating their psychiatric symptoms.”

The AFL would not comment last night.
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There should be a criminal investigation into the AFL.

Clearly the AFL have mislead, obstructed, done dodgy deals and tried everything to cover up the issue of drugs in their sport.

It's high time someone grew a set and asked for the AFP to investigate what actually occurred during this time.

Chook.
 

Twizzle

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Players from all walks of life suffer from drug addiction, no doubt the problem affects athletes from around the world.

Hardly a ground breaking article.
 

Chook

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Sorry I didn't clearly say what I was pointing out.

"Harcourt detailed how the league used intelligence gathered under the voluntary illicit drugs policy to identify targets for anti-doping tests."

Yet they completely missed the Essendon program which had players signing waivers etc? They were gathering intelligence but missed the biggest doping scandal in the codes history. That can only be explained by incompetence or compliance.

Either way, an independent investigation into the AFL's dealings in this matter needs to happen.

Chook.
 

mongoose

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It sure has been interesting watching how the AFL has reacted to this whole ASADA thing. Their whole administrative structure and way of doing business has completely come undone and made the NRL look like pro's.

I get the feeling the AFL and it's clubs have always been run like one big happy family (or like a mafia family), where every club must basically get permission from AFL house to do anything. So now one of their favourite sons (Essendon) has been caught out doing the wrong thing and the AFL have desperately tried to intervene and cover up, realised they couldn't do it and now are trying to cut the club loose and disown them. Meanwhile Essendon have acted like some arrogant spoilt brat who's Daddy is chief of the Police and therefor they won't get punished. WIll be interesting to what happens from here. I still think Vlad may have left a sinking ship....
 

Chook

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http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/essendon-continues-to-duck-for-cover-20140707-zsz9w.html

The latest and potentially most laughable attempt by Essendon to make the AFL accountable for its own dangerous and potentially illegal drugs program has struck a chord as the club continues to point the finger and duck for cover while making its way through a costly line of courtrooms.

And that chord has nothing to do with the Bombers’ illogical conspiracy theories nor their delusional attacks on the AFL’s Dr Peter Harcourt. What has become increasingly apparent as the club continues to show no remorse is that the AFL was soft on Essendon.

The Adelaide Football Club has every right to question why Essendon has been allowed back into the national draft at the end of its first round when the Crows were stripped of two rounds of picks for two years over the Kurt Tippett affair – a serious transgression but incomparable to the human experimentation that went on at Windy Hill.

Adelaide chief executive Stephen Trigg deserved his six month unpaid suspension, but he must be wondering how James Hird – whose actions caused his club to be charged with bringing the game into disrepute – was given a two-year contract extension and a fully-paid gap year at a time when Essendon is rattling the tins to pay for its new Tullamarine facility.

Departed Melbourne football boss Chris Connolly, along with friends and family of the late Dean Bailey – both suspended for their role in the tanking affair – must be wondering how senior assistant Mark Thompson won a promotion and a pay rise for failing to control the drug program instigated by Stephen Dank, Dean Robinson and Hird.

The AFL fined Thompson the paltry sum of $30,000 and gave him more for than 12 months to pay it. Now Thompson is questioning the fine on the basis that Harcourt disparaged Essendon by telling the truth in a keynote speech to an international conference. If that was disparagement, then what were Tania Hird’s public rantings and conspiracy theories?

Thompson’s latest pearler on the subject would be laughable too if the situation was not so shameful. The caretaker coach said on Friday that no harmful drugs were given to his players. "There’s no risk," said Thompson. "One actually helps in part of the treatment for cancer."

Thompson, who virtually appointed himself Hird’s mentor and guide and was paid handsomely to be as much, had no right nor basis to form this opinion because the club still cannot tell the players what drugs they were given. The players were warned by ASADA and AFL investigators and their players’ union last year that they faced long-term health risks and yet Harcourt has been used as their fall guy for mentioning cancer because his organisation is helping monitor those risks.

At any rate Thompson’s comments begged the question: Why were the Bombers given anti-carcinogenic drugs? Why for that matter were they given anti-obesity drugs? Why on earth were they given a drug used for the treatment of muscular dystrophy? Why is the club trying to stall ASADA’s investigation when the players and their families deserve answers, not avoidance?

But the AFL was weakest of all in its handling of club doctor Bruce Reid. That Harcourt has been in the gun, when Essendon had a doctor whose obligation was to put his players’ health ahead of personal friendships and club loyalty and yet could not meet those obligations, remains baffling.

Reid was so concerned about the drugs program he wrote a letter to senior football staff including Hird. He now says he believed his concerns had been dealt with and that he was frozen out. How can Reid have been so blind for so many months?

And if he was, why did he show ongoing slavish devotion to Hird throughout the course of last year as the awful truth emerged? Reid had a responsibility to know what was happening and follow up on his disturbing letter. It is not enough for him to alone blame Dank and Robinson.

In the end, he failed his players and now the system must monitor them over the long term for all manner of serious health problems.

Reid should have been suspended but was saved by his longevity in the job, the implications for his medical status and the good bloke discount that applies too often in the AFL.

Essendon in turn admitted him into the club’s Hall Of Fame.

And yet Reid believed he escaped suspension because he threatened to take the AFL to court. Hird believes he took the fall for others and now apparently – despite his heartfelt apology to the Commission last August – is back to square one in the belief he did nothing wrong. How on earth can he be entrusted with his players again if he cannot see what he was guilty of in the past?

The legal manoeuvre by Essendon and Hird is damaging to the game. Hird remains delusional, but the action cannot help the 34 players he purports to defend in the long run. Was Hird – and Reid for that matter – to finally put his hand up and admit to some serious failings then that would help the footballers he failed as the players’ defence is largely based upon the fact they were misled.

But that is unlikely to happen. The way we see it Hird loses either way. Should the players receive infraction notices his job is gone and so – potentially – is his payout. Should he finally do the right thing and take responsibility and stop the finger-pointing he clearly fears he will lose his job, and what lies ahead for him then?

Gemba? Unlikely. Who could possibly turn to a company Hird once fronted, a company priding itself on corporate governance expertise with Hird as a major player?

This regime – including the board which continues to push its legal charade in an attempt to bury the truth – remains so deluded regarding its clear responsibilities. That anyone involved with Essendon attempted to spread the story that the alleged player mother who called Triple M was a fraud when that could not have been known is so shameful.

Then again perhaps we shouldn’t be surprised. This after all was a regime born in deception. As matters stand that is probably the way it will die. But that death looks headed to be long and slow.

Had the AFL been tougher, truly taken Essendon on, worried less about the deal and avoiding court and more about doing the right thing then perhaps the short-term pain of a troubled September would have been worth the long-term gain.
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I genuinely hope this ends up in court so everything, and I mean everything. can be finally disclosed to the public because Hird, Demetriou, Reid, Thomson, O'Lachlan are need to be cross examined under oath.

Chook.
 

Chook

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http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...-faces-rosier-report-card-20140718-ztv97.html

A bold prediction: the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority inquiry into peptide use at Essendon and Cronulla will eventually bring down the AFL leadership, while the reputation of the NRL will be enhanced, particularly with government.

Essendon and Cronulla will suffer loss of players and money; the Bombers will hurt more on the playing field, while the Sharks will suffer more financially.

When the supplement saga erupted nationally in February last year, federal ministers briefed senior Melbourne journalists, extolling the efficiency of the AFL and lampooning the NRL administration.

Rugby league was also perceived to have the bigger drug problem, and the AFL made much out of seven NRL clubs being mentioned in the Australian Crime Commission report.

It did not matter that incoming NRL chief executive Dave Smith had not begun working at Rugby League Central when he was briefed in Canberra by the ACC, nor that the seven NRL clubs were eventually distilled to one.

ASADA is a quasi-government body and someone gave authority for the anti-doping body to combine with the AFL in a joint investigation, the very grounds for Essendon taking action in the Federal Court to rule it unlawful and dismiss the 34 show-cause letters sent to their players.

The NRL took two significantly different paths.

It did not join with ASADA in a common investigation and, while reminding the Cronulla players that NRL rules require them to co-operate with ASADA officials, there was no compulsion on them to self-incriminate.

Therefore, the chances of the NRL being hauled to court by either Cronulla or its players, are low.

There are also two significant differences between Essendon and Cronulla in terms of the possible sanctions to players.

One concerns the substances alleged to have been used: thymosin beta-4 at Essendon and CJC-1295 and GHRP-6 at Cronulla. All three are banned by ASADA.

However, lawyers for the players at both clubs will argue there was no
certainty they were injected with these substances.

The Melbourne compounding chemist asked by sports scientist Stephen Dank to supply supplements can not be certain he gave Dank thymosin beta- 4 and Dank has refused to respond to the show-cause notice ASADA has issued him.

The evidence Cronulla players were injected with CJC-1295 and GHRP-6 rests initially in an internal report commissioned by the old Cronulla board.

Lawyers will argue it is hearsay after the fact and, in any case, the report is subject to legal and professional privilege and can not be used unless privilege is waived.

It is the property of the Cronulla club and chairman Damian Keogh made it clear privilege would not be waived, saying, “My view is there are serious questions how some of the interviews were conducted to the point where we would hold it as a privileged document and not a true representation of the facts.”

The second difference between the clubs concerns the drug-taking regimes: Cronulla was an ad hoc, amateurish, corner store operation, while Essendon’s was a sophisticated undertaking of industrial scale, described in the Switkowski report, commissioned by Essendon, as “a pharmacologically experimental environment.”

Less than 20 Cronulla players received two to three injections and then a variety of creams and tablets over four months, while more than 40
Essendon players received more than 40 injections over a 40-week period in consultation with the coaching and support staff.

The Cronulla program began in 2011 and was abandoned by May, while Essendon’s began in 2011 and finished at the end of the following season.
Cronulla players are yet to receive show-cause letters because, presumably, ASADA began its investigation into Essendon first and is restricted by limited resources and government bureaucracy.

NRL players also shift clubs with greater frequency than AFL players and this, together with the Cronulla program beginning a year earlier and ASADA focused on Essendon, means that only five Sharks players could eventually be served with infraction notices, compared with more than 20 at the Bombers.

In other words, any six-month to two-year sanctions at Cronulla will have less effect than basically wiping out an AFL club for a season, and there are significant implications for the code’s $1.25 billion TV deal.

However, the NRL’s Smith refuses to allow time to favour the Sharks. He does not wish to interfere with ASADA’s process but is likely to ask the anti-doping body to move in the next month on the evidence it has against the Sharks.

Keogh supports him, saying, “We want it resolved as soon as possible. It is hurting us with sponsors. It’s cost us $4 million and I am concerned that the only people making money out of this are the lawyers.”

Essendon, on the other hand, are one of the AFL’s wealthiest clubs, enjoying private sponsorships and government grants.

They had no problem paying a $2 million fine - to be paid over three years - imposed by the AFL for lack of corporate governance of the supplement regime, yet serious questions should be asked whether the AFL should have fined itself for lack of duty of care.

It has emerged that the AFL, suspicious of Essendon’s use of prohibited substances, secretly sent blood samples of Bombers players to Cologne for testing early in 2012 but no positives emerged.

Fairfax Media understands Dank knew of this and, having waited a couple of months and heard nothing, may have taken this as a green light to continue the program, even increasing dosage.

In other words, the AFL allowed the program to continue and may have known more about it than the Essendon board.

This also suggests a mockery of the claim Essendon self-reported its drug culture in February last year, independent of any influence from the AFL.

When I posed the question whether the AFL’s then boss, Andrew Demetriou, and his deputy and successor, Gillon McLachlan, tipped off Essendon following an ACC briefing in Canberra days before, the response was a swift denial and threat of legal action.

Five months later, News Ltd papers raised the same issue.

When I revealed ASADA’s secret deal to AFL players, which could have had them escape sanction while Cronulla players would receive six-month bans, Demetriou went on Melbourne radio to brand the story preposterous and ridiculous.

A year later, News Ltd papers wrote the same story.

The AFL’s obsession with managing potentially embarrassing problems will be an issue in Essendon’s Federal Court case on August 11.

ASADA’s powers are wide and even if it does lose the case, it claims to have sufficient information, independent of the joint investigation, to reissue show-cause letters to past and present Essendon players.

The AFL, historically, has taken a lofty view of itself compared with the NRL.

Keogh reveals he has attempted to speak to McLachlan about the two code’s common supplements problem but describes the AFL boss as being “dismissive” of the NRL club.

Keogh suggests the AFL has already lost ground, saying, “They have paid for trying to manufacture an outcome.”

They may also pay with money.

While the AFL has received $3 billion from government and corporate support this past decade, including $2 billion for stadiums, it is expected funds will start flowing to rugby league, which has had limited access to the public purse.
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I hope Roy's bold prediction comes true as he's been spot on so far in his investigation into this saga.

Chook.
 
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