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TNA Superthread 2010 **SPOILERS**

Big Pete

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*In a dark match, Miss Betsy (that may not be her actual name, just what it sounded like) pinned Daffney.

*In an Xplosion match, Desmond Wolfe pinned Jay Lethal.

Impact for 4/26

*Hulk Hogan introduced the new TNA champion Rob Van Dam, who came out to a big pop. Van Dam cut a promo saying he came to TNA because he knew the company would give him an opportunity. AJ Styles and Ric Flair came out. Styles claimed RVD cheated and must be high if he thinks he'll be the greatest TNA champion ever. He called RVD a pothead. Styles warned RVD he'll use his rematch clause when he wants to. Flair then cut a promo about his match with Abyss.

*TNA Knockouts champion Madison Rayne defeated Tara and Angelina Love in a Three-Way. Tara continued her heel turn, brawling with Love after.

*TNA X-Division champion Kaz defeated Shannon Moore. After a ref bump, Matt Morgan interfered and attacked Moore, which set up the Kaz win. Samoa Joe came out and destroyed Kaz after.

*AJ Styles & Sting defeated Jeff Jarrett & Jeff Hardy in a Falls Count Anywhere match. Hardy had Styles set up on a table and went to the top of the ladder to dive off when the bell rang and Styles and Sting were announced the winners. Jarrett and Sting had battled into the rafters, where Sting pinned Jarrett.

*Pope Dinero comes out with his arm in a sling and wearing an eyepatch. He warns AJ Styles that the Pope hasn't forgotten about him or the TNA championship. Ken Anderson comes out and insults the crowd and challenges Pope to a match at Sacrifice. Pope backhands him with his good hand. Anderson tries to take out Pope and injure his shoulder but security breaks it up. Good promo work by both.

*TNA Tag Team champion Matt Morgan & Jesse Neal vs. Team 3D ends in a no contest when The Band comes out. 3D and The Band brawl to the back. Morgan chokeslams Neal. Neal is laid out and 3D come out to check on him as Morgan goes to the back, Neal calls out Morgan. Morgan, backstage, refuses but runs into Hulk Hogan, who tells him to go back to the ring. Morgan goes back out and they brawled. Morgan hit a low blow but Shannon Moore made the save. Neal and Morgan shook hands.

*Abyss pinned Ric Flair. Flair was busted open. Flair used brass knucks and got the pin but Earl Hebner saw them and restarted the match. Hogan came out after Abyss scored the pin. He took the Hall of Fame ring off Ric Flair's hand and said next week, he knows who he is going to give the ring to. He and Abyss celebrate to end Impact.

Xplosion:

*Alex Shelley pinned Homicide.

*Robert Roode pinned Chris Sabin

Looks like a return to the usual standard. Shame.
 

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It's almost like they make the taped shows bad because they know they're going to get hammered by a live Raw...
 

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I am watching impact right now and Flair has made me laugh once again... Rob Terry comes out and clears the ring and Flair starts yelling at him "Who the hell are you?!?!"

Ahh Flair is still awesome. I hope he stays heel for a long time to come... Also the "behind the scene" shots they do are pretty cool
 

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And we're off. A great video package, with [COLOR=blue ! important][COLOR=blue ! important]music[/COLOR][/COLOR]
and all, highlights RVD beating Jeff Hardy and defeating AJ Styles to win the World Title last week.

"Mr. Monday Night" is tonight's episode title. Pyro goes off and Tenay and Taz welcome us to the Impact Zone. Tonight, AJ Styles and Sting vs Jeff Jarrett and Jeff Hardy, along with Ric Flair vs Abyss with both rings on the line.

And here comes the Hulkster, with pyro and all. He says things around here are wide open. He's been on a high (like RVD) ever since Lockdown, and things are changing around TNA. He says being the TNA Champion right now means more than anything he ever dreamed it could be. Being champ, being RVD, means he has a big target on his back. Because of that, he has to up his game. He says the talent is stepping up. Bischoff has apparently created a top ten ranking system, and the fans are going to have something to do with it. He says when RVD faced Hardy, he was on the edge of his seat. Once he got by Hardy, RVD stepped back in the ring again, with one of the greatest wrestlers of our time, AJ Styles. He says no one can deny how great AJ is. He says when he hit the Five Star Frog Splash, things have changed. He now welcomes Mr. Monday Night himself, RVD.

And here comes your NEW champion. RVD thanks Hogan, and tells Hogan to feel free to call him "Mr. TNA". Hogan gives it a shot, welcoming "Mr. TNA, Rob Van Dam"! RVD says the reason he's there is because he figured Dixie Carter, Hogan and Bischoff and everyone in the organization would give him the fair opportunity to be Rob Van Dam. He says a lot of people won't understand their connection, or his connection with mother earth's finest. They don't get how he's such a cool, laid back dude and can kick so much ass. They don't have to understand why he's RVD, just that he's the best and that from this day forward, he will be the greatest TNA Champion ever. That's why he's the "Whole F'n Show"

GET READY TO FLY!!! It's my boy, AJ Styles, and he looks pissed. Flair's with him too (with NO wheelchair). Tenay reminds us that now RVD's champion, he's a human target. Hogan said no one invited either one of them out here. Styles asks if he's done talking. The crowd starts chanting "Ex World Champ", and AJ tells them to shut up. He says Hogan sounds like a Hallmark greeting card for God's sakes. He says RVD's right, there's millions of people who don't understand RVD. He's a hippie freak from Southern California, dude. He asks if he really said he was going to be the greatest world champ ever. He asks him if he's high, and the crowd all says yes. He says last week, he was beating the piss out of him, but because he slipped on the top rope, RVD won the title. He says if he didn't know any better, RVD lubed up the ropes because he knows he can fly. He doesn't want to compete in the tag match, he says he deserves a rematch. He says he's gonna get his rematch, when he wants it. He tells him to put that in his pipe and smoke it. Flair says he doesn't care about RVD and his lifestyle. He says he and Hogan have a personal problem. He says Hogan has taken responsibility for Abyss taking that ring. He swears to God that he is going to take his anger out on Abyss tonight. Abyss is done. You make a mockery of Flair, and you die. He's gonna walk the isle, style and profile, and that he's gonna take out Abyss.

The [COLOR=blue ! important][COLOR=blue ! important]Beautiful [COLOR=blue ! important]People[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] backstage, with Velvet saying she cant believe she has a defense already. Madison has to face two former champions tonight. Velvet says when it looks like TBP have things going their way, TNA management looks for a way to screw it up. Madison says she's not worried. All she has to do is watch them tear each other apart, and walk in for the pin.

Back from the commercial, and we're shown highlights of TBP and Angelina Love rivalry.

Madison Rayne(C) vs Angelina Love vs Tara - Three Way match - TNA Knockouts Championship

And all of The Beautiful People are coming out for this one. The ref tells them both to go to the back though, leaving Madison on her own. Madison bails out of the ring, and Angelina chases her back in, only to eat a clothesline from Tara. Showdown between Tara and Angelina leads to them both trading rights. Huge spear by Angelina, and now punching. Madison runs in for the pin but Tara gets the ropes. Tara flipping Angelina over, but Madison breaks up the pin. Boot to the side of Tara's head. And we're going back to commercial.

Back from commercial as Angelina takes down Madison. Pin but only two. Tara is out on the outside, selling a head injury. Madison tries to escape, but gets slammed down by Angelina. Pin but again only two. Tara back in and throws Angelina into the ring post. Madison rolls up Tara but Tara kicks out and hits a snap suplex, followed with a guillotine choke. Madison gets up and after a series of maneuvers both heads get slammed into the mat. Angelina back in and takes down both with a double clothesline. Angelina taking it to both of them with forearms. Jawbreaker to Tara followed by a bicycle kick to Madison. Modified sidewalk slam by Tara to Angelina. Madison pushes Angelina into Tara and rolls up Angelina for the win.

Winner-Madison Rayne-**-Nothing really bad here as it progressed the rivalry between Tara and Angelina. It didn't do Madison any favors, but it was still a solid outing.

Post match brawl between Tara and Angelina with security trying to break them up. Security somehow can't hold either one back. Tara is now in the corner, saying that she's really sorry. Angelina walks away but Tara blindsides her, sending her out of the ring.

Kaz(C) vs Shannon Moore - X Division Championship
Kaz may be champ, but he still doesn't have the belt. Both guys with a tie up to start things off. Hammerlock by Moore countered into an armbar by Kaz. Moore counters again. Kaz rolls out and hits an armdrag, followed by a slam. Misses the elbow and now multiple armdrags by Moore. Slam by Moore but misses a leg drop. Face off by both men now. Headlock by the champ. Powerbomb countered into a hurricanrana by Moore. Reverse atomic drop followed up with a leg drop. Pin but only two. Kaz avoids Moore in the corner and slingshots into the ring for an armdrag. Modified spinning neckbreaker by Kaz, but only gets two on the pin. Kaz launches Moore on the apron. Moore looks for a sunset flip, but Kaz holds on. Moore slips out and goes for a neckbreaker, but Kaz pushes him off into the ref. Moore to the top, but Kaz hits him with a huge kick. Kaz thinking hurricanrana off the top, but Moore shoves him off. Matt Morgan now out and shoves Moore off the top. The ref didn't see it and neither did Kaz. Reverse piledriver by Kaz for the win.

Winner-Kaz-*3/4-Too short to really be anything. Continuity from last week though is nice

Samoa Joe now coming out, and starring at Kaz. Superkick and now boots in the corner. MUSCLE BUSTER.

Abyss says the ring doesn't have magical powers, but has confidence. He says there's nothing he can't do. Flair, tonight is it. The ring means so much to him, he will never lose what the ring has given him. Whatchygonnado Flair, when Abyss takes your ring from you.

Morgan now asking Jesse Neal to be his partner. Neal says no way. Morgan says Neal makes Red look like a paperboy. Morgan brings up the promise Neal made to his best friend, who lost his life in the bombing. Morgan says he's offering him a golden ticket to make good on that promise. Morgan says they're done asking other people. They want him.

Up next, Styles and Sting vs Jarrett and Hardy.

Styles is shown walking in the back, saying he's about to take care of business as we head to commercial.

AJ Styles and Sting vs Jeff Jarrett and Jeff Hardy - Falls Count Anywhere Tag Team match
Massive brawl to start things off. Jarrett with punches to Sting in the corner. Sting counters with a revers atomic drop but Jarrett comes back with an enzuigiri. On the ramp, Styles looks to suplex Hardy, but Hardy counters into one of his own. Jarrett attacks Sting with a chair in the crowd. Styles gets tossed into the ring by Hardy. Twist of Fate countered but Hardy hits a flying forearm. AJ tosses Hardy over the top and now works on Jarrett. Jarrett locks in a sleeper, and AJ hits a sloppy low blow counter. Hardy gets the tag, but the ref didn't see. Sting now in, hitting Jarrett with a suplex. It's been announced that at Sacrifice, it'll be Jarrett vs Sting. Sting ducks a clothesline and both men hit a double shoulder block, knocking each other down for the count. Hardy gets the tag, but AJ had the ref distracted again. Hardy attacks AJ anyways and hits him witha short arm clothesline. Reverse sitout suplex to AJ followed by a corner dropkick. Sting is now walking to back. Hardy to the top but AJ knocks him down. AJ and Hardy now battling out on the ramp. AJ looking for the Styles Clash but Hardy counters, throwing AJ off the ramp and into the guardrail. Jeff launches himself at AJ as Jarrett goes to the back to take it to Sting. They're now going up the stairs to the rafters. AJ on a tableas Hardy's thinking Swanton. And he's got a ladder set up now too. Sting hits Jarrett with a baseball bat multiple times. Sting pins Jarrett for the win as Hardy was about to jump off the ladder. The ref pulls AJ of the table now that the match is over.

Winnes-AJ Styles and Sting-**1/2-Good stuff here as it accomplished what it set out to. The Sting/Jarrett rivalry progresses, and it gives Hardy and AJ a match. A good match at that too, so it's all good.

Neal talking with Team 3D about Morgan's offer. Morgan offered Neal to be his partner to face them. Ray asks him if he's crazy. Neal says he'll take care of Morgan himself. Ray asks how Neal plans on becoming champ, and Neal says by beating them. Ray says good, and tells him to be prepared. Devon tells him not to put his full trust in Morgan.

And we're back, and The Pope IS PIMPIN'! He's got a pimpin' patch over his eye and a sling on his arm. We get highlights of how Dinero hurt his shoulder at Lockdown. He says AJ took a pen and put it in Pope's eye. He tried to take away Pope's career. He asks him who he thinks he is. Although he doesn't have the gold, he hasn't forgotten about him. The Gospel according to Pope, there are no excuses, but also according to the Gospel, it's a tooth for a tooth, and an eye for an eye. He says he's watching him and he's not done with him. Someone asked him where does Pope go from here. He says when he falls down, he gets back up. Every now and then, there will be a stumble. He says all AJ is is an obstacle Pope tripped over. Pope, Is, Pimpin. MMRRRRRRRRR!!!!! And here comes Mr. Anderson.

He's got the mic, and says Wow. He says he's gonna start calling him the Kool-Aid man. The Jim Jones kind of Kool-Aid man. He doesn't know why the fans are laughing cause they're drinking in. He says he knows they're gullible. He starts calling them different names. He asks if Dinero's ok. He says Kurt Angle got a hurt too. He says Angle's at home, licking his wounds. He asks if Pope's gonna go home and lick his wounds. Dinero tells him to get to the point or shut the hell up. Anderson asks if he's gonna get his nuts out of his mom's purse and face him a Sacrifice. He calls him a chicken, now taunting him. Pope tells him to watch this. He then Pimp Slaps him, but Anderson kicks him in the gut and starts to attack him. Now he's going after they injured eye. Security comes in and breaks it up. Anderson walks away as we head to commercial.

Matt Morgan(C) and Jesse Neal vs Team 3D - World Tag Team Championship
Team 3D's music is playing, but they're nowhere to be found. In the back now, and apparently 3D has put Waltman through a table, and his head is bleeding. 3D now makes their way to the ring. Morgan and Neal come out together. Morgan looks confident while Neal looks a little worried. Devon and Neal start things off with a tie up. Devon with a headlock, but Neal counters out only to get shoulder blocked. Headlock again by Devon, and Ray gets the tag. Big slap to Neal and now a bearhug. And here comes Nash and Hall. 3D meets them on the ramp and start brawling. Jesse Neal also joins in on [COLOR=blue ! important][COLOR=blue ! important]the [COLOR=blue ! important]fray[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] but gets attacked by Matt Morgan. Morgan throws Neal back in the ring and hits him with a huge chokeslam.

Winners-Team 3D via disqualification-N/A-This was more of an angle advancement than a match. While I don't think the 3D/Band rivalry is good, I do love the Matt Morgan angle advancement.

Back from commercial as Neal is with Team 3D. Neal's got a mic, and screams for Matt Morgan to come down so he can kick his ass. Christy is in the back with Morgan. Morgan says he already forgot his name, and that they're off the clock. Morgan runs into the Hulkster. Hogan tells him to either go out there or he has to deal with him. Morgan chooses to go out to the ring. Neal charges Morgan on the ramp, and hits him with a headbutt. Neal grabs one of the tag title belts, but Morgan begs him to not attack him with it. That allows Morgan to hit a low blow and then knock out Neal with the title belt. And here comes Shannon Moore. Dropkick off the top by the Prince of Punk. Morgan bails out. I can bring myself to believe Morgan is afraid of Neal, but Moore. Seriously?

Bischoff in the back with Miss. Tessmacher. He says he wants to come up with something new. He says the fans are going to determine who are in the top ten rankings for the World Title. All you have to do is vote on TNAwrestling.com. Lethal interrupts Bischoff, saying that #1 is Andre. #2 Koko B. Ware, then The Hart Foundation, and we cut to commercial.

We briefly come back from commercial as we see Styles hyping up Ric Flair about his match.

Orlando Jordan in the back, wearing something really weird. He says he represents passion. He calls out Rob Terry, saying he's witnessed him destroy every obstacle that's come before him. He says next week, he premieres his show, the O-Zone, with special guest Rob Terry. And it will delicious. Awkward.

Video of Flair from early saying he's going to kick Abyss ass. The ring means more to him than anything. When he's in a bad mood, he doesn't mind hurting somebody. Abyss having the ring offends everything he's worked for. Every fan will know that they're seeing the greatest wrestler that ever lived when Flair walks down that isle.

In the back now with Hall and Nash. Nash yells at the camerman, saying what's next is that they help their friend. The cameraman persists, and Hall tells him to calm down. Nash says they'll bring someone next time, someone else.

Video package highlighting the main event.

Ric Flair vs Abyss - Winner wins the other man's ring
WOOO! And here comes the Nature Boy, stylin' and proflin'. Abyss makes his way to the ring, and this match is on. Abyss pushes Flair across the ring off the tie up. Flair with some punches and chops in the corner. Abyss counters Flair and now hits him with rights of his own. Backbody drop by The Monster, and Flair bails out of the ring. Abyss follows him, but Flair hits him with a chop. Abyss comes back and throws Flair's head into the guardrail. Flair's busted open now as Abyss is hitting him with the rights. Flair rolls back into the ring, and Abyss follows, only to walk into a poke to the eyes. Flair to the top (Why, Flair? Why?) and gets caught by Abyss. Abyss tosses him off the top. Botched big boot by Abyss, follows up with a sidewalk slam. Abyss charges Flair in the corner, and Flair falls to the mat. Abyss grabs Flair, but Flair low blows him and the ref at the same time. Flair's got the knucks. He hits Abyss, but it doesn't phase him. Flair then hits him in the nuts with the knucks. Cover and that's all folks.

Ric Flair

The ref sees the brass knucks and he and Flair start pushing each other. The ref restarts the match.

Flair now working down Abyss, but he's hulking up brother. YOU! Black Hole Slam by Abyss for the win.

Abyss-*-This was your average Flair match. Flair hits some chops, bleeds, and does some cheating. The finish worked though, so props there, but that's about all this had going for it.

Here comes Hogan, and he pulls the ring off of Flair's finger. Hogan says he knows exactly who he's going to present the ring to next week as Flair is screaming at Hogan. Join us next week to find out who gets the ring.

Overall-Solid episode of Impact as there was a lot of angle advancement took place towards the building towards Sacrifice. The opening promo, tag match, and Anderson/Pope promo were the highlights of the show while the main event was probably the lowest.

SOURCE: 411mania.com

Not as terrible as the original taping spoilers made it sound.
 

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I don't think the show ever looked bad, just drab.

My main criticism with it is the main event. It wouldn't of been bad as a secondary main event match but as the main event it does little for the quality of the show.
 

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TNA's new rankings system is allowing the fans to vote for the contenders. Interesting results so far:

Desmond Wolfe - 27%
Jeff Hardy - 26%
Mr. Anderson - 10%
D'Angelo Dinero - 8%
Sting - 7%
AJ Styles - 7%
Kurt Angle - 6%
Rob Terry - 5%
Jeff Jarrett - 3%
Abyss - 3%

Hopefully TNA will notice that the guy they are Jesus pushing is the lowest ranked on the poll and the one they're giving the least push to is leading.
 
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Missed impact on saturday night, had the choice of taping the Knights or the Wrestling when I was away and I failed, is the last spoiler from Saturday night Mis?

Also RE the rankings, no suprise at all, Desmond has been dreadfully used in the last few months.
 

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I don't think the show ever looked bad, just drab.

I could be wrong, but I think they make a point of not trying to stack the show that is taped. They're always going to struggle to rate against a live show when their show is taped a week in advance. Couple this with the fact that the Draft meant a complete head to head - and I'm not surprised TNA didn't put a lot into trying to out-rate Raw.
 

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I agree that's what they do and I find it silly.

There are better alternatives. For one, I'd increase the quality of wrestling time on the second show. Taped shows should be about quality, you maybe aware of it but as long as the quality of the episode is good and the action in the ring is mind blowing I believe it would do wonders, especially against a show that's always a mixed bag.
 

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They either need to be live every week or they need to do their alternating live/taped thing on another night. Simple as that.
 
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Anyone got an inkling as to who Scott Hall was refering to as the 4th member of The Band? If it hadn't been for his online brain explosion, I would have guessed it to be Scott Steiner. Then again, that could be why he said what he did.
 

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I don't think the show ever looked bad, just drab.

My main criticism with it is the main event. It wouldn't of been bad as a secondary main event match but as the main event it does little for the quality of the show.
Interesting Pete, you seem to be coming around to the TNA/WCW style of shows?

Dont worry, the main event shouldnt really matter as much as it does in the WWE. Bishoff has always liked to push more than the usual 3 or 4 main eventers. As the show goes on, i think that face/heel lines will blur a lot more than the old WWE. The last fight (main event) doesnt actually have to be the headline match, in fact, more often than not, it was the "top of the hour match" that was important. Now i guess it will become the top of the half hour match."
 

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Interesting Pete, you seem to be coming around to the TNA/WCW style of shows?

Dont worry, the main event shouldnt really matter as much as it does in the WWE. Bishoff has always liked to push more than the usual 3 or 4 main eventers. As the show goes on, i think that face/heel lines will blur a lot more than the old WWE. The last fight (main event) doesnt actually have to be the headline match, in fact, more often than not, it was the "top of the hour match" that was important. Now i guess it will become the top of the half hour match."

I'm a fan of PW in general. It may shock some to know I'm in no way supportive of the E out of loyalty; in fact I started off as a die hard WCW fan in late 1999 but I merely place the E as the top show purely out on default for how many talented wrestlers they have on their show. Generally though, an E show rarely exceeds my expectations, at best it meets them.

To me, the show was just eh, not dramatically bad it just wasn't entertaining. Abyss vs. Flair as one of the main event matches does little for me; I can't stand Abyss these days and Flair does a reasonable job as an entertainer but I feel as if his team could be better spent else where.

The rest of the show just seemed very eh to me. I know that's a fairly bad expressive term...but how else can I put it? It's like a draw...somehow it's worse than a loss as it's almost as if the result is in purgatory.

I can't wait to read this weeks edition though, I hope TNA really knock one out the park.
 

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Word is that Dixie Carter has a 'major announcement' for the show, Hogan will confront Flair, and we'll get a title match between RVD and the current poll leader (when I checked last night, Desmond Wolfe was slightly ahead of Jeff Hardy).
 
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Reading the spoilers this was an absolutely garbage show. The only redeeming feature seems to be the reintroduction of Doug Williams into the X Title frame, and even that was poorly done!
 
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