Trial team week 2 V Parra

[Poupou Escobar]

I think on paper the Panthers have an awesome side. I wouldn't be surprised with top four. The only weakness is inexperienced halves, but Moylan picks up that slack anyway.

 

[franklin2323]

If you look at the highlights you'll see that's not true: http://www.penrithpanthers.com.au/news/2017/02/19/match_highlights_pan.html

For the last two tries Parra have no jersey numbers lower than 18, whereas right at the end Penrith still had Moylan, Whare, Blake, TMM, Cleary, Cartwright, etc.

While Moylan, Martin and co did play longer then most Parra starters. Numbers in trials mean bugger all here's why. We had no Number 12. Number 16 was off by halftime. Akoulala started in 20.

When Akoula knocked himself out. He was replaced by a Tongan in number 9. We also had Langi and Leota both in 17. Whare was in 2. With MWZ outside him in 2. Peachey in number 4. With Tuisese outside him also in number 4.

While numbers are a guide that many guys get a run in whatever jersey they can get. Never can say any team was weaker than the other

 

[franklin2323]

I think on paper the Panthers have an awesome side. I wouldn't be surprised with top four. The only weakness is inexperienced halves, but Moylan picks up that slack anyway.

Rein, Cartwright too have plenty of footy in play making if needed. For me it's the players staying grounded that will cost us top 4

 

[maple_69]

We drifted in and out of games a lot last year. We can't rely on 20 minutes of Moylan shredding teams to beat the better sides. If they play 80 patient minutes the points will come.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

While Moylan, Martin and co did play longer then most Parra starters. Numbers in trials mean bugger all here's why. We had no Number 12. Number 16 was off by halftime. Akoulala started in 20.

When Akoula knocked himself out. He was replaced by a Tongan in number 9. We also had Langi and Leota both in 17. Whare was in 2. With MWZ outside him in 2. Peachey in number 4. With Tuisese outside him also in number 4.

While numbers are a guide that many guys get a run in whatever jersey they can get. Never can say any team was weaker than the other

Right, except I recognised those Panthers, and I'm not a Panthers fan. They were mostly top 17 players. That last try was scored by Whare off a Martin kick. Blake came in to congratulate him. But unless you were a (fairly hardcore) Eels fan you wouldn't recognise any of the Eels onscreen other than maybe Gower. The other three were Honeti Tuha, Jamal Fogarty and James Gammidge. Do you know any of them? Zero NRL games between them. Gammidge isn't even on an NRL contract - he is a part timer contracted to Wenty.

 

[mxlegend99]

Right, except I recognised those Panthers, and I'm not a Panthers fan. They were mostly top 17 players. That last try was scored by Whare off a Martin kick. Blake came in to congratulate him. But unless you were a (fairly hardcore) Eels fan you wouldn't recognise any of the Eels onscreen other than maybe Gower. The other three were Honeti Tuha, Jamal Fogarty and James Gammidge. Do you know any of them? Zero NRL games between them. Gammidge isn't even on an NRL contract - he is a part timer contracted to Wenty.

So you only lost 12-6 then? Not sure why you're so defensive... chopping and changing of players happens in every trial. Usually the only blokes getting a longer run are those who need it... guys like Whare and TMM who missed most of last season. Or guys needing to cement a spot.

Btw if we had mostly top 17 players. Who were the other 10 on the field aside from TMM, Whare and Blake? Honest question as the video doesnt focus long enough to identify most players. But you seem to have already done so.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

So you only lost 12-6 then?

No we lost 18-6, I'm just explaining why your team found it so much easier to score tries in the final quarter.

Not sure why you're so defensive... chopping and changing of players happens in every trial. Usually the only blokes getting a longer run are those who need it... guys like Whare and TMM who missed most of last season. Or guys needing to cement a spot.

Btw if we had mostly top 17 players. Who were the other 10 on the field aside from TMM, Whare and Blake? Honest question as the video doesnt focus long enough to identify most players. But you seem to have already done so.

Are you suggesting that the only three top 17 Penrith players were the three I've named? Ok then, to the video...

For the Panthers' second try the Eels teams was like this:

Tuha
Faraimo
Hoffman
Aukafolau
Gammidge
Fogarty
Robson
Alvaro
King
Pritchard
Moeroa
Edwards
Gower

The five top 17 players are in bold. That is only 38% of the team. Meanwhile for the Panthers I recognised the following players:

Moylan
Blake
Martin
Cleary
Latu
Rein
Browne
Yeo
Cartwright

Plus there was some bloke wearing 9 who I didn't recognise. Eight of those ten (80% of the players visible) were top 17 players. Plus unless Whare came off and back on again for the final try he scored, that's nine of eleven.

The final try looked like all the Eels bums were out there, at least in the middle and left edge - Moeroa was off the field with Gower taking his place. And facing the Eels left edge of Gammidge, Aukafolau, Fogarty and Gower (with Tuha fullback) were Whare, Blake, Martin (kicking) and Harawira-Naera. That is three top 17 players to zero on that side of the field. Plus Latu made a decoy run in the lead up.

 

[umina panther]

Parra mostly matched it with a much better side and the fans still complain

 

[betcats]

No we lost 18-6, I'm just explaining why your team found it so much easier to score tries in the final quarter.


Are you suggesting that the only three top 17 Penrith players were the three I've named? Ok then, to the video...

For the Panthers' second try the Eels teams was like this:

Tuha
Faraimo
Hoffman
Aukafolau
Gammidge
Fogarty
Robson
Alvaro
King
Pritchard
Moeroa
Edwards
Gower

The five top 17 players are in bold. That is only 38% of the team. Meanwhile for the Panthers I recognised the following players:

Moylan
Blake
Martin
Cleary
Latu
Rein
Browne
Yeo
Cartwright

Plus there was some bloke wearing 9 who I didn't recognise. Eight of those ten (80% of the players visible) were top 17 players. Plus unless Whare came off and back on again for the final try he scored, that's nine of eleven.

The final try looked like all the Eels bums were out there, at least in the middle and left edge - Moeroa was off the field with Gower taking his place. And facing the Eels left edge of Gammidge, Aukafolau, Fogarty and Gower (with Tuha fullback) were Whare, Blake, Martin (kicking) and Harawira-Naera. That is three top 17 players to zero on that side of the field. Plus Latu made a decoy run in the lead up.

It's a trial we beat what was in front of us. It's not a big deal.

 

[franklin2323]

No we lost 18-6, I'm just explaining why your team found it so much easier to score tries in the final quarter.


Are you suggesting that the only three top 17 Penrith players were the three I've named? Ok then, to the video...

For the Panthers' second try the Eels teams was like this:

Tuha
Faraimo
Hoffman
Aukafolau
Gammidge
Fogarty
Robson
Alvaro
King
Pritchard
Moeroa
Edwards
Gower

The five top 17 players are in bold. That is only 38% of the team. Meanwhile for the Panthers I recognised the following players:

Moylan
Blake
Martin
Cleary
Latu
Rein
Browne
Yeo
Cartwright

Plus there was some bloke wearing 9 who I didn't recognise. Eight of those ten (80% of the players visible) were top 17 players. Plus unless Whare came off and back on again for the final try he scored, that's nine of eleven.

The final try looked like all the Eels bums were out there, at least in the middle and left edge - Moeroa was off the field with Gower taking his place. And facing the Eels left edge of Gammidge, Aukafolau, Fogarty and Gower (with Tuha fullback) were Whare, Blake, Martin (kicking) and Harawira-Naera. That is three top 17 players to zero on that side of the field. Plus Latu made a decoy run in the lead up.

It was 1st hit out of the year so guys played longer. Add to that we had no ball in the 1st half trials are to build combinations so teams play as long as they need.

MX, JFH was a late scratching so we had no number 12 jersey. We finished up with this 13 on:

Edwards
MWZ
Whare
Blake
Tuisese
TMM
May
Number 8 from NYC
Rein
Leota
Langi
Corey Hawira-Narea
Katoa:

So was a normal trial as far as players used. Just how long the key guys stayed on for is the difference

 

[franklin2323]

It's a trial we beat what was in front of us. It's not a big deal.

Exactly both teams had changes and was a good solid trial for both

 

[franklin2323]

Parra mostly matched it with a much better side and the fans still complain

That much better team even made it fair by playing with 12 players for a 10 minute period

 

[martielang]

Interesting to see Langi around the first grade side. He has plenty of potential injuries/confidence have hampered him. Can play though.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Parra mostly matched it with a much better side and the fans still complain

Parra have a much better defensive team. The Panthers have more in attack.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

It's a trial we beat what was in front of us. It's not a big deal.

You certainly beat our reserve grade side when it was in front of you. 12-0 in about 20 minutes.

 

[franklin2323]

It was most of our teams 1st run of the year. Not so Eels but not unusual for Trial games

 

[betcats]

You certainly beat our reserve grade side when it was in front of you. 12-0 in about 20 minutes.

It going to be another long year for you and your reserve grade team.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I think Wenty will do pretty well this year. It all comes down to injuries though.

 

[Kilkenny]

I think both sides can take something out of the trial. I thought we defended particularly well given the Eels had greater than 50% share of the ball in the first half. We made a few mistakes when in possession so didn't do ourselves any favour's hence the stalemate at half time. Personally, I felt watching the game, if we held onto the ball and got an even share of possession we would eventually come out on top and that's the way it panned out. Not much in it thou.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

We do have a defence that forces errors though. Too many people judge teams solely on their attack (and ours is very average, especially without Norman). We will grind out plenty of wins this year and frustrate a few teams into conceding big scores. Much like Bennett's Dragons team a few years ago.