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Ultrathread I: Thread of the Year - 2014

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Misanthrope

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I can honestly say I find the idea of bacon or two women scissoring the shit out of one another being wrong just... wrong.
 

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There's a reason the Filet-o-Fish doesn't come with a bacon rasher...

15 posts to go until lockdown...
 

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Shorten reckons he's going to introduce it on Monday, so they don't have a lot of time on their hands.

Whilst I don't really see a point of a plebiscite I couldn't see it losing unless Abbott pulled a Howard and worded it strangely. Polling has been pretty strongly in favour of it for almost a decade now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recognition_of_same-sex_unions_in_Australia#Polling
It's a good wedge issue, putting Tony in an awkward space.

He either has to change his own stated views, or allow a conscience vote for the coalition. If he alows a conscience vote, he will still be pressed for his own view and unlikely to admit it has changed.

If the conservative MPs coming out in support of the bill number enough to get it through parliament, then Tony comes out of this looking out of touch. It's a no-win situation for Tony - unless he can convince enough conservative MPs to vote against the bill, but not be seen by the public to be doing so.

Clever Bill.
 

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After last nights performance by Chechin I am against anything that may make him happy. No to gay marriage.
 

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I thought it was one of the better refereeing performances during a Parra game for a while, that Blake try call was pretty awful though.
 

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Parra played well & deserved the win, but none of the 50 50's went our way. There were a few decisions that were flat out wrong, but I admit it was far from the worst referee performance I have seen this year. Still, f**k Chechin.
 

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f**k, ten more posts...

Parra did indeed play well for a change. There are always acouple of calls per game that are flat out wrong - sometimes they even out, sometimes one team gets the rub of the green, sometimes it evens out week to week.
 

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But the two ref system is diabolical. Has let to greater inconcistency within a match (as well as between matches) for a range of decisions.

Should never have been introduced, and when compared to international matches under one referee, it's clear to see how the previous system - while not perfect - was preferable.
 

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But I suspect the NRL will not have the balls to do away with the two ref system and admit they got it wrong.

They've effectively set up a "career pathway" for refereees... touchie, to joint ref, to senior joint ref, to video ref. When there was two touchies for every one ref, career progression was stagnant, but now every touchie can see themselves a chance of eventually becoming a refereee.

Of course we could debate the decline in quality of refereeing, given they have reduced the benchmark to gain a top grade appointment... which (bringing this thread back to serious off-footy topics) is kind of like the debate about the supply and demand entrance ranks for different University courses.
 

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That is, does the artifically high university entry rank to Medicine and Law undergard degrees necessarily make for better GPs or solicitors, specialists or barristers? If not, given the supply ad demand issue is there a different way to spread entry acces among a broader range of potential students, to capture any potentially top lawyers or doctors?

Does the artificially low entry rank to Education undergrad degress (again, due solely to supply and demand) have any impact on the quality of teachers filtering through to the profession? Should it remain low, or is there any societal gain to increasing the entry standard and leaving places unfilled?
 
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