US Presidential election 2016, pt 2. The quadrennial comedy show.

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  1. Pete Cash

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    If the Russians had sent them an email offering them cash would it have been "smart" for the trumps to accept it. If not then what is the difference between that and opposition research which you admit has value
     
  2. Firey_Dragon

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    The emails seem to indicate there was a call before the meeting that hasn't been disclosed...

     
  3. millersnose

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    OMG

    A call!!!,!

    Surely impeachment is only hours away
     
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  5. Canard

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    Imagine making it your life's work to ensure that you respond to any and every unflattering comment made about some overweight toupee wearing snob.
     
  6. TheVelourFog

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    don't be daft
     
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    Imagine making it your life's work to ensure that you freak out about every meaningless thing done by some overweight toupee wearing snob
     
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  9. Pete Cash

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    Millers if a russian citizen (or any foreign citizen) had sent don jnr an email saying we have a cash donation for the trump campaign would it have been "smart" of them to accept it

    If it wouldnt have been smart what is the difference between that and opposition research which you admit has value
     
  10. millersnose

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    well here is the difference pete

    reasonable people..that excludes you guys of course...would conclude meeting someone who has evidence of your opponents breaking the law for the purpose of blowing the whistle on them in an election campaign is a different proposition to accepting a blatant bribe

    i know thats a difficult one for hard core partisans to understand but it is just reality

    look trump is a goose who probably will fall on his own idiocy

    this particular idiocy from you guys and the 'treason' and 'impeachment' cries just makes normal people think you are twits
     
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  11. Pete Cash

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    I find when people use the term reasonable people its a mask for "what i reckon"

    Why wouldnt the information be a bribe by the way ? The reason the US has federal laws against accepting things of value from foreign nationals during an election campaign is the belief that it would be an attempt to buy favour.

    Why do you believe a foreign national giving information which you have acknowledge is worth money is any different than just giving the money the information is worth ?

    Is 20k different from a car worth 20k as a gift
     
  12. Firey_Dragon

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    Ah so that explains your complete lack of logic.

    I'm sure people offer up dirt on any campaign opponent out of the goodness of their heart. There are no motives or expectations in return. Especially ones supposedly acting on behalf of a foreign government, one that is the subject of sanctions that has crippled their GDP.
     
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    well it could be a bribe pete or even an attempted bribe..only for any lack of evidence

    people pass on information for all sorts of reasons

    in this case clearly it was a worm on a hook to get an audience that amounted to nothing in anycase

    you guys are a little naive to think political dirt digging on opponents is pretty grubby and all major parties involve themsleves

    you guys merely got over excited when the russians were mentioned
     
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    the correct course of action is to alert the authorities
     
  15. Firey_Dragon

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    I would say pretty much every political candidate would turn it into the FBI if an email stated that it was on behalf of the Russian governments support for a candidate. At the very least, they wouldn't take the meeting. Given the events after the email, they certainly would have turned it over to authorities to absolve themselves of any political risk.

    Even the biggest partisan hack in the GOP, Trey Gowdy wouldn't defend it and criticized it. It's universally condemned by all but Fox News.
     
  16. millersnose

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    sure they would........
     
  17. Firey_Dragon

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    Most wouldn't be stupid enough to take it, purely if it was a trap. Trump Jr isn't the sharpest though.

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  18. Cletus

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    So why were the Russians passing on information as "part of their support for your Father(Trump)". Because they're really great guys, Putin is just a top bloke who wanted to give Trump a hand? It's not like Trump Jnr wasn't told who was giving his father support, and he didn't even think to question why. They're either complete morons or traitors. This administration is sure making a memorable legacy.
     
  19. Pete Cash

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    That is why the US has a federal law about accepting anything of value from a foreign national. This as you admit includes information. It is interesting that you then said its smart to break federal law

    As i mentioned earlier in the thread when the gore campaign was sent information on Bush they contacted the fbi. Why do you feel it wouldnt be appropriate for the trumps to contact the fbi if apparently the russian government has dirt on a presidential candidate ?
     
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    CNN vs Fox News, which is the truth teller

    Oh gee I wonder
     

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