US Presidential election 2016, pt 2. The quadrennial comedy show.

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  1. Mr Spock!

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    Would that be like benefits to vets.....
     
  2. some11

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    THIS

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    Black Lives Matter

    Today I had the opportunity to listen Patrisse Cullors speak at the University of Sydney about Black Lives Matter (BLM). She is a co-founder of that organisation. She spoke for about an hour with Stan Grant, before answering some audience questions.

    BLM were not happy with Obama and his presidency. They believe he did not help them them out of the oppression, black Americans find themselves suffering. That black Americans still remain downtrodden by whites. That America is a whites mens country, and for a black man to get ahead he needs to act like a white man. Even then he is treated with little respect. With Trump, the words 'white supremacist' was used to describe many of his supporters. She made the suggestion that BLM may have to form their own political party, as they believe neither the Democrats or Republicans are of any value to them.

    I enjoyed listening to her, and got a lot out of the discussion.
     
  4. Mr Spock!

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    Yep many black activists weren't happy with Obama's neoliberal policies.

    Dr Cornel West regularly tore strips off his presidency.
     
  5. Danish

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    Did anyone ask her to elaborate on what it means to "act like a white man"?

    I've asked a few of my left leaning friends this question, and none have ever been able to actually answer it in any meaningful way. Basically it just leads to them rattling off a bunch of stereotypes.

    The same is also true when asking them how to define how one might "act black"
     
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  7. Danish

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    Do you honestly think that is what Patrisse Cullors thinks black people need to act to get ahead in the US?

    Or did you just want to try and shoe horn in a completely unrelated video of an old racist australian guy from over 30 years ago when discussing modern day US race relations?
     
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    Learn to dance awkwardly?
     
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    Suddenly being unable to jump ?
     
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    Do you seriously think that you can only understand the meaning of someone's terminology if you lean to one political side?


    At best that seems disingenuous on your part.
     
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    Bunch of white guilt junkies who think whitey is evil go to a speech by someone who says whitey is evil and agrees

    In next week episodes a bunch of people who think Islam is evil and feminists are rediculous go to a milo event where milo says Islam is evil and feminists are rediculous and agree
     
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    I'm not sure how you could have extracted that insight from my post. Perhaps you didn't understand it?

    2SG responded to my posting asking if the speaker qualified in any way what she believes "acting white" is by posting a video of Lang Hancock making some racist comments in the 80s. I then asked him to clarify if he was actually trying to define what "acting white" was, or just posting a random racist vid.

    How does that relate to only being able to understand someone's terminology if they are of a particular political leaning? Its not like I don't understand what the term "acting white" means i.e. acting like a white person. I am rather asking if the speaker clarified what actions she thinks define what "acting white" would look like, since such a phrase is infinitely subjective and bigoted by its very definition
     
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    Yes they did. To paraphrase, the answer was, to act like a while man is to appear like a white man, as in how you present yourself to the world. That you speak, dress and act like a white man. Do not use words that a white man would not. Do not dress like a white man would not. Do not act like a white man would not. Its like if a black man what’s to get anywhere in this world then he has to become white.
     
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    lol

    why is blue blue

    because it is blue

    hahahhaha
     
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    Sorry but that doesn't sound like much of an elaboration at all.

    What kind of clothes are "white" clothes? What kind of words are "white" words? What kind of actions are "white" actions?

    Just saying "don't wear, say, or do anything a white person wouldn't" is meaningless. You'll need to define what those things actually are.
     
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    So why did you ask your "pinko" mates what the term meant? Just to big note yourself and start an arguement?

    Also what's why would you think there view represents those of a political movement accurately?
     
  17. Danish

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    Q - "How do I play soccer?"
    A - "Join a soccer game"

    Q - "What is a soccer game?"
    A - "The one that uses a soccer ball"

    Q - "What is a soccer ball?"
    A - "It is the ball they use to play soccer"

    RETURN TO TOP
     
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    Yes, there are no cultural differences between races.
     
  19. Danish

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    Well for one thing the vast majority of my friends are left leaning, and secondly the only people who I've heard use the term "acting white" or some other similar phrasing are left leaning ones. So it stands to reason that I would then be asking them to explain what they are talking about.

    If I ever happen to bump some alt-right guy going on about the virtues of "acting white" I'll ask them too. I just don't tend to hang out with such people
     
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    Good questions you ask. I suppose she answered them in how she dressed, spoke and acted yesterday. She dressed like I would expect any woman, regardless of race to do. As she did in how she spoke. For mine the only thing that identified with her being black, was the colour of her skin. But how she looked and spoke could be her trying to make a point. It can be difficult to judge a person after just 90 minutes.
     

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