Valentine Holmes depository thread.

[Dragon Slayer]

Mods seems we have a new player that a few forummers want to use as a soccer ball so can we have all posts made in other threads about Val Holmes placed here please?

If anyone wants to kick Holmes or defend him please post here so other threads aren't hijacked with a lot of rubbish.

 

[shaggs]

But hijacking is what we do. Has there ever been a thread that has stayed on track.
Cmon.

It's the evolution of the sharks.
First we just wanted to win a few games. Then it had to be the semis, then we had to make the GF.
Now if we don't go back to back, we are shit.

That includes Holmes too. He is clearly shit because his name isn't Ben barba. Clearly shit because he is a different style.

I just thank god we don't have Nathan Gardner as our fullback. That bloke was awful. Whatever happened to him??

 

[Card Shark]

He scored a length of the field try, untouched.

What happened to him, he was Carney's friend.......the mascot for the Carney Army!

 

[cb4]

To figure out what it exactly is that Val is bad at, I have compiled the below from the Fullbacks on the weekend that have 3 or more games there this year.

Meters Per Game
Will Hopoate 207m
Tom Turbo 188m
Val Holmes 183m
RTS 179m
James Tedesco 179m
Jack Wighton 166m
Matt Moylan 147m
Michael Gordon 124m
Billy Slater 122m
Alex Johnston 122m
Darius Boyd 114m
Clint Gutherson 103m
Lachlan Coote 73m
Tyrone Roberts 48m (had some games at half with low running meters)

Runs Per Game
Will Hopoate 24
Matt Moylan 20
RTS 19
Tom Turbo 18
Val Holmes, James Tedesco 17
Billy Slater 15
Michael Gordon, Alex Johnston, Darius Boyd 13
Clint Gutherson, Lachlan Coote 11
Tyrone Roberts 7 )had some low numbers at half)

Meters Per Run
Val Holmes 10.76
Tom Turbo 10.44
Jack Wighton 10.37
James Tedesco 10.92
Michael Gordon 9.53
RTS 9.42
Clint Gutherson 9.36
Alex Johnston 8.77
Will Hopoate 8.63
Darius Boyd 8.53
Billy Slater 8.13
Matt Moylan 7.35
Tyrone Roberts 6.85
Lachlan Coote 6.3

Try Assists
Billy Slater, Tom Turbo 7
Darius Boyd, Tyrone Roberts (majority at half) 5
Matt Moylan, James Tedesco 4
RTS 3
Jack Wighton, Clint Gutherson, Val Holmes 2
Will Hopoate, Lachlan Coote, Alex Johnston, Michael Gordon 1

Line Breaks
Tom Turbo 12
Clint Gutherson 7
Billy Slater, James Tedesco 6
Alex Johnston, Jack Wighton, RTS 5
Val Holmes, Tyrone Roberts 4
Michael Gordon, Matt Moylan 3
Lachlan Coote, Darius Boyd 2
William Hopoate 1

Tackle Breaks Per Game
James Tedesco 7.5
William Hopoate 5.8
RTS 4.7
Billy Slater 4.5
Michael Gordon 4.1
Val Holmes 4
Tom Turbo 3.9
Darius Boyd 3.4
Alex Johnston, Matt Moylan 2.9
Jack Wighton 2.8
Lachlan Coote 1.8
Clint Gutherson 1.6
Tyrone Roberts 1.4


Is it all doom and gloom? This is considering we are at the bottom for completion rate, errors, penalties, and are bottom 4 for tackles in the opposition 20.
Val is performing well for a guy with his first full off season at Fullback, coming back from injury, into a brand new spine.

The glaring issue for mine, the team inheriting Pomeroy's hands, Greg Bird's discipline and James Maloney turning to shit.

 

[Dragon Slayer]

Pretty good stats from Val considering he missed the first 3 games of the season.

Like you say cb4 this is with a side struggling for fluency in it's play with the worst completion rate, errors, penalties and bottom 4 for tackles in opposition 20.

Can't wait to see what he can produce when the Club turns some of those stats around.

 

[Card Shark]

bottom 4 for tackles in opposition 20.

Interesting

Result of poor handling

 

[Stake Removed]

Maybe its now we are expecting to win all the time, so everyone is expected to perform even better

 

[carcharias]

What happens if you add all the stats together though?

 

[Card Shark]

Ya don't add em, too hard.

Just look @ the points column!!!

 

[Frenzy.]

You spelt suppository incorrectly DS.

 

[Quigs]

I want to see all the stats in downloadable excel format.

 

[Eion]

Frenz and reef have a ways to go to reach the lofty S73 derailment campaign of 2014-2016.

 

[Defer to the coifed]

Just put him back on the wign , where he will be probably pretty good , halve his salry to $400k & bring Benny back.
Pretty simple way to go back to back.

 

[Eion]

Except vals not going to be overjoyed at the pay cut and the nrl will place a nominal value on barbas contract making it impossible for us to comply with the salary cap in any event.

 

[Card Shark]

Frenz and reef have a ways to go to reach the lofty S73 derailment campaign of 2014-2016.

Did S73 enjoy the premiership?

He wouldn't be happy with how f**ked we are going this year.

 

[MilkShark]

Just put him back on the wign , where he will be probably pretty good , halve his salry to $400k & bring Benny back.
Pretty simple way to go back to back.

Yes please. He's a good player but he's not earning half is wage at the moment. Back on the wing son

Welcome back sir Benny.

 

[Card Shark]

I just reckon get Barba for next year.

He ain't gunna be any good this year.

He played so well last year as he had a great offseason - he hasn't had 1 this time, he simply won't hit the ground running.

 

[Ads]

I just reckon get Barba for next year.

He ain't gunna be any good this year.

He played so well last year as he had a great offseason - he hasn't had 1 this time, he simply won't hit the ground running.

If we signed him he would have a 12 week pre season.

 

[Quigs]

Except vals not going to be overjoyed at the pay cut and the nrl will place a nominal value on barbas contract making it impossible for us to comply with the salary cap in any event.

Since when does any (in)decent NRL club worry about complying with that salary cap thing.

 

[2012....Sharks Year]

Interesting stats on the fullbacks....the one I find most intriguing is Darriarse, On stats alone you wouldn't have him in your top 6 or 7. The thing about Benny this year is that the Nrl could only have a token value on him considering he can only play two games of the regular season (max) plus semis. That would mean that very few sides would be interested cause there's no certainty that they would be playing semi's to get any real value out of him......Unless of course you are the Sharks.(Val)....Storm (Slater) or the Roosters (Not so Flash)....