Widdop or Dugan? and who replaces them?

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  1. willzy91

    willzy91 Juniors

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    So its looking more and more likely that we won't able to afford both...with both wanting to close to 1 mil per year or more. We have to be realistic and say yes it is inevitable that we will loose one of them. So who do you want more to stay at the dragons? and if one of them does leave who would you replace them with?

    I feel if we do sign only one of them, we will have the cash reserves to resign both Lafai & Packer. Or would you rather resign both Dugan and Widdop, and let Lafai & Packer go?.....tough situation for the Dragons right now, and i see why it is taking so long....they obviously want to have backup plans for any situation. AND i know we could have signed them for cheaper in Jan but at the point we were wooden spoon contenders and the market value was much lower for mid-high end players.
     
  2. muzby

    muzby Village Idiot Staff Member

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    Ahh.. thankfully someone finally started a Dugan thread.. I've been itching for one to come up so we can discuss his contract situation..
     
  3. Crush

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    I am happy to just wait and see how it pans out with Widdop and Dugan.
    I hope we keep them but it won't be the end of the world if they go.
    Our forwards are our strength and Hunt coming will be great.
     
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    Let Widdop go keep Dugan and make sure our forward strength is built on.Surel we can retain Dugan.
     
  5. willzy91

    willzy91 Juniors

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    So if we are letting Widdop go, who will replace him?
     
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    Dragon66 Juniors

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    I think we have to resign Widdop. I think he will be sensational next to Ben Hunt next year, plus he is a quality goal kicker. We have to keep Dugan unless we can find a suitable replacement and that's not looking very likely. Dufty sure isn't throwing down the gauntlet for a spot at this stage, and I'm not sure who else is worth the effort for the money that we would have available.

    Losing Packer, Lafai and some of the others is not the end of the world. Host, Sele, Blake and Leilua are developing well.
    Herbert, Garrick, Field and Thompson all have potential.

    We need to keep our "Spine" together first and foremost, and continue to fast track the experience and potential of our young juniors and I think we will be right.
     
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    mickeylane Juniors

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    Michael Gordon will be released as soon as Tedesco is announced next week by the Roosters - would sign him up in a heartbeat on a 1 year deal w an option - great defensive and attacking fullback for no more than $400k!!
     
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  8. willzy91

    willzy91 Juniors

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    Yeah good option, has a good passing game as well.....do you think there isn't any options for a fullback within the club? dufty or fields or mann?
     
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    Thought this question had already been well and truly thrashed out.
    Where are all the pro Dufty and Field posters?
    According to many they should have already been in the side.
    That being the case why would you want to waste money buying anyone to replace Dugan and Widdop who many thought were totally ineffectual and easily replaced anyway?
    All of a sudden since we are ticking along ok the juniors don't need to get a look in anymore and its ok to go back to buying journeyman.
    Honestly a few wins and all is forgiven and even more things that were said are forgotten.
    This place is getting more like Hillsong everyday.
     
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  10. Saint_JimmyG

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    A completely moot question because it's becoming bleatingly obviously that the Dragons will lose both players.

    As for replacements, there's always the unknown/inexperienced route such as Dufty/Field, or the recycled avenue like Gordon/Foran.

    Neither option is palatable though.
     
  11. Walpole

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    The obvious answer is "Jack Bird".

    To every question.
     
  12. chiefy1

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    Luke Kelly and Micky Gordon I'm hearing
     
  13. SGMax

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    Suggesting we lose one to keep the other means that we have to give in to their demands.
    Neither of these players warrant contracts near the $1 mil mark.
    If one leaves then we should have some spare cash rather than re-assigning it to the other.

    I agree with the prices that the Dragons have placed on their contracts and I don't believe any other club will offer them more.
    If they leave it will only be the result of sour grapes and a huge sulk.
    I'm starting to think its time to put a deadline on these negotiations as it may destabilise the team performances.
     
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    I'd agree with your sentiment provided there are commensurate replacements for the incumbents.

    Unfortunately this isn't the case.
     
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    Ideally it would be great to keep both, but likely we'll only end up with one. If we lose both, then that's not ideal but, not necessarily the end of the world.

    Firstly, Ben Hunt is coming next year, a proper, premiership calibre half. Anything we lose with Widdop, I'm sure Hunt will be able to make up for. Mann and Field and even Hutch would be options to partner him. I'll hazard a guess that whoever of those 3 partner Hunt, it will likely be an upgrade on what we have today (Widdop and McCrone).

    As for FB, again Mann and Field would be options. Over the last 2 weeks, our attack has actually improved having Nighty as a stock gap FB. No reason Mann or Field can't do the same. If we have to go to market, yes a guy like Michael Gordon on a 1 year deal would be ideal (and the there is a chance that Steve Marsters will be our long term FB post 2018).

    No point worrying about it to be honest. So much can happen in 6-12 months and I'm sure there are more twists and turns to come. I'm just enjoying the ride this year, and the fact we may actually be premiership contenders with our current squad, when most predicted the spoon for us.
     
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  17. Belta

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    Success certainly puts players on pedestals, and others on the black list, I get the vibe through the forum that players not in FG have failed so far this year, perhaps they haven't shone in reggies, but sometimes it's easier to shine in a successful team, I still feel there are players who given the chance could have done just as well as their respective incumbents and, HELL we all know plenty of regular FG players who played shit for an eternity before finally hitting their straps, Don't get me wrong I'm on a high watching the Dragons this year but don't feel the need to slap individuals backs and plate them in gold, after all the way I see it the success has come from a TEAM effort, players feeding off each other...and others could fill in just as well.. Only my option
     
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  19. possm

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    I agree. If anyone should be let go it should be Dugan. By signing Gordon - if he is not retiring, we would have an effective, experienced fullback who can kick goals.

    Then if Widdop leaves we have funds to buy a five-eighth and at least have an experienced goal kicker in the side. Maybe one of the Warriors coming off contract. I'm now convinced we need to ease our young guns in more slowly.
     
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    Yeah pretty much what I was going to say. We have options either way. Don't think there's much point worrying about it. There's lots that can happen and happy to have this play itself out.

    Would add that Nightingale probably will stay on an extra season and will become an option if Dugan leaves.
     

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