YOUR NZ or Aus top and NZ/AUS A teams.

[ParraDude_Jay]

If they can rid themselves of the underachieving mindset, then they can be the dominant team for the next five years and really give International League a shot in the arm.

They a halfback though, Marshall needs a good halfback inside him (with a good kicking game) otherwise he won't see the ball in a situation where he can do anything with it. Jones won't be around forever so they need someone to stand up at half for them.

Hopefully Marcus Perenara develops (for Parra's sake and NZ's) because he's really their only prospect.

 

[Murphdogg1]

Unless they play Jeremy Smith at 7? Or Hohaia, who is a half decent 7

 

[PARANoIR]

NZ side

1. Brent Webb
2. Matt Utai
3. Nigel Vagana
4. Shontayne Hape
5. Lesley Vainikolo
6. Benji Marshall
7. Stacey Jones
8. Paul Rauhihi
9. Richard Swain
10. Nathan Cayless
11. Ruben Wiki
12. Ali Lauititi
13. Sonny Bill Williams

14. Willie Talau
15. Jason Cayless
16. Roy Asotasi
17. Frank Pritchard/ Tony Puletua

NZ A side

1. Zeb Luisi
2. Manu Vatuvei
3. Paul Whatuira
4. Clinton Toopi
5. Jamaal Lolesi
6. Motu Tony
7. Robbie Paul
8. Joe Vagana
9. David Faiumu
10. Jerry Seu Seu
11. Tony Puletua / Frank Pritchard
12. Joe Gulavao
13. Vinnie Anderson

14. Dene Halatau
15. Fui Fui Moi Moi
16. David Solomona
17. Bronson Harrison

NZ Z side

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18th Man. Luke Covell.


Australian sides to come.

 

[Deleted member 10972]

New Zealand

1. Brent Webb
2. Lesley Vainikolo
3. Nigel Vagana
4. Paul Whatuira
5. Manu Vatuvei
6. Benji Marshall
7. Stacey Jones
8. Jason Cayless
9. Richard Swain
10. Ruben Wiki
11. Tony Puletua
12. Ali Lauititi
13. Sonnybill Williams

14. Tony Puletua
15. Roy Asotasi
16. Lance Hohaia
17. Paul Rauhihi

New Zealand A

1. David Vaealiki
2. Francis Meli
3. Iosia Soliola
4. Clinton Toopi
5. Henry Fa'afili
6. Robbie Paul
7. Marcus Perenara
8. Nathan Cayless
9. Louie Anderson
10. Craig Smith
11. Wairangi Koopu
12. Awen Guttenbeil
13. Sione Faumuina

14. Iafeta Paleaaesina
15. Frank Pritchard
16. Dene Halatau
17. David Kidwell

New Zealand B

1. Motu Tony
2. Jake Webster
3. Shontayne Hape
4. Jamaal Lolesi
5. Matthew Utai
6. Jeremy Smith
7. Thomas Leuluai
8. Joe Vagana
9. David Faiumu
10. Jerry Seu Seu
11. Joe Galuvao
12. David Solomona
13. Logan Swann

14. Fuifui Moimoi
15. Bronson Harrison
16. Vinnie Anderson
17. David Fa'alogo

Jerome Ropati, Billy Ngawini, Frank Puletua, Glen Turner, Henry Perenara, Phil Leuluai, Kylie Leuluai, Hutch Maiava, Tame Tupou, Willie Talau, Tevita Latu, Peter Lewis, Greg Eastwood, Steve Matai, Alex Chan, George Carmont & LUKE COVELL (yes! i said it!) all slightly miss out. Stephen Kearney has retired, right?

 

[Waitakere Warrior Fan]

I'm a bit surprised by how many people leave Kidwell out of the top Kiwi's team. I think he's been pretty consistently the best New Zealand forward over the last few years and I'd still give him a start in the second row with everyone available.

1. Brent Webb
2. Lesley Vainikolo
3. Nigel Vagana
4. Paul Whatuira
5. Matt Utai
6. Benji Marshall
7. Stacey Jones
8. Jason Cayless
9. Lance Hohaia
10. Ruben Wiki
11. Tony Puletua
12. David Kidwell
13. Dene Halatau

14. Nathan Cayless
15. Sonny Bill Williams
16. David Faiumu
17. Paul Rauhihi

There are a lot of very tough choices in there, which is a great problem to have. You wouldn't lose much with any of Koopu, Lolesi, Hape, either of the Anderson's, Asotasi, Swann, Lauiti'iti, Solomona, Vaealiki, Tony, or Webster finding their way into the team.

The big worry is what happens at halfback with Stacey Jones leaving however. I'd personally shift Hohaia to #7 and maybe bring Louie Anderson into the team as starting hooker (unless Swain is available again).

 

[Deleted member 10972]

Great Britain

1. Paul Wellens
2. Leon Pryce
3. Keith Senior
4. Martin Gleeson
5. Brian Carney
6. Kevin Sinfield
7. Danny McGuire
8. Stuart Fielden
9. Kieron Cunningham
10. Nick Fozzard
11. Adrian Morley
12. Jamie Peacock
13. Paul Sculthorpe

14. Gareth Ellis
15. Robert Burrow
16. Jamie Thackray
17. Sean O'Loughlin

Great Britain A

1. Kris Radlinksi
2. Mark Calderwood
3. Chev Walker
4. Gareth Raynor
5. Stuart Reardon
6. Paul Cooke
7. Paul Deacon
8. Ryan Bailey
9. Matt Diskin
10. Danny Ward
11. Gareth Hock
12. Jon Wilkin
13. Jamie Langley

14. Danny Tickle
15. Eorl Crabtree
16. Lee Gilmour
17. Mickey Higham

Great Britain B

1. Richard Mathers
2. David Hodgson
3. Stephen Wild
4. Paul Sykes
5. Ade Gardner
6. Iestyn Harris
7. Richard Horne
8. Paul King
9. Malcolm Alker
10. Andy Lynch
11. Paul Wood
12. Paul Johnson
13. Lee Radford

14. Mark Gleeson
15. Gareth Carvell
16. Ewan Dowes
17. Ben Westwood

Paul Anderson, Mark Edmondson, Luke Robinson, Chris Thorman, Mark Edmondson, Darrell Griffin, Mike Bennett, Jamie-Jones Buchanan, Chris Charles, Danny Sculthorpe, Kevin Brown, Terry Newton, Michael Withers & Sean Long all slightly miss out.

 

[Deleted member 10972]

Btw a few of the players there i chose through form e.g. Carvell, Dowes...i have not seen Darrell Griffin, Mike Bennett, Luke Robinson, David Hodgson, Chris Charles, Danny Sculthorpe, Kevin Brown or Mark Edmondson in action, & Buchanan i have seen a little bit of...are there anyone else who thinks they shouldn't be anywhere near the side, along with players who SHOULD be near the side?

 

[strong_latte]

Ill go NZ.

FOR A FULL STRENGTH TEAM

1. Brent Webb
2. Lesley Vainikolo
3. Nigel Vagana
4. Paul Whatuira
5. Matt Utai
6. Benji Marshall
7. Stacey Jones
8. Jason Cayless
9. Lance Hohaia
10. Ruben Wiki
11. Nathan Cayless
12. Tony Puletua
13. Louis Anderson

14. Sonny-Bill Williams
15. Dene Halatau
16. Roy Asotasi
17. Iafeta Paleaasina

Nice team!! I wish I could see that in action in the TS!!

 

[Big Mick]

Australia:

1. Anthony Minichello
2. Eric Grothe
3. Mark Gasnier
4. Matt Cooper
5. Matt King
6. Darren Lockyer
7. Andrew Johns
8. Mark O'Meley
9. Danny Buderus
10. Steve Price
11. Nathan Hindmarsh
12. Steve Simpson
13. Ben Kennedy

14. Craig Gower
15. Trent Waterhouse
16. Carl Webb
17. Jason Ryles

Australia A:

1. Brett Hodgson
2. Luke Lewis
3. Brent Tate
4. Timana Tahu
5. Luke Rooney
6. Jonothan Thurston
7. Scott Prince
8. John Skandalis
9. Luke Priddis
10. Luke Bailey
11. Luke O'Donnell
12. Craig Fitzgibbon
13. Trent Barrett

14. Shaun Berrigan
15. Joel Clinton
16. Dean Widders
17. Willie Mason
Australia B:

1. Billy Slater
2. Amos Roberts
3. Josh Hannay
4. Justin Hodges
5. Ty Williams
6. Preston Campbell
7. Matt Orford
8. Ben Ross
9. Robbie Farah
10. Danny Nutley
11. Anthony Watmough
12. Clint Newton
13. Braith Anasta

14. Matt Bowen
15. Chris Heighnington
16. Ben Galea
17. Dean Young

 

[Deleted member 10972]

Australia

1. Anthony Minichiello
2. Eric Grothe Jr.
3. Mark Gasnier
4. Matt Cooper
5. Matt King
6. Trent Barrett
7. Andrew Johns
8. Mark O'Meley
9. Danny Buderus
10. Steve Price
11. Steve Simpson
12. Nathan Hindmarsh
13. Ben Kennedy

14. Craig Gower
15. Luke Bailey
16. Luke O'Donnell
17. Petero Civoniceva

Australia A

1. Brett Hodgson
2. Pat Richards
3. Brent Tate
4. Paul Bowman
5. Timana Tahu
6. Darren Lockyer
7. Scott Prince
8. John Skandalis
9. Luke Priddis
10. Jason Ryles
11. Craig Fitzgibbon
12. Trent Waterhouse
13. Braith Anasta

14. Carl Webb
15. Anthony Tupou
16. Craig Wing
17. Ben Creagh

Australia B

1. Ben Hornby/Matt Bowen
2. Billy Slater
3. Ryan Cross
4. Shaun Berrigan
5. Amos Roberts
6. Preston Campbell
7. Jonathon Thurston
8. Ben Ross
9. Cameron Smith
10. Danny Nutley
11. Clint Newton
12. Dean Young
13. Ashley Harrison

14. Dean Widders
15. Chris Flannery
16. Willie Mason
17. Brad Thorn

Anthony Watmough, Justin Hodges, Ty Williams, John Sutton, Jamie Lyon, Andrew Ryan, Brent Kite (underrated), Peter Cusack, Scott Geddes, Paul Stringer, Robbie Farah, Stephen Bell, Matt Orford, Ben Galea, Joel Clinton, Luke Rooney & Clinton Schifcofske all slightly miss out. Matt Sing & Steve Menzies have retired (from International), right?

 

[Deleted member 10972]

Soon i'd like to see Steve Southern get a go, the guy is raw, no fuss, & hits hard as hell!

 

[JoeysWheelchair05]

Yeah Southern is great. Give him time though.


Australia

1. Hodgson
2. Grothe
3. Gasnier
4. Cooper
5. King
6. Lockyer
7. Johns
8. Price
9. Priddis
10. Bailey
11. Hindmarsh
12. O'Donnell
13. Kennedy

14. Civinoceva
15. Skandalis
16. Simpson
17. Bowen

Aus A

1. Minichello
2. Williams
3. Tate
4. Hodges
5. Sing
6. Barrett
7. Prince
8. Nutley
9. Buderus
10. Ryles
11. Southern
12. Creagh
13. Harrison

14. Waterhouse
15. Thorn
16. Webb
17. Thurston
Alot of good players not in either of those sides.

 

[Deleted member 10972]

Needs more Tupou! I think Cross has impressed me enough this year to warrant his selection. I have been skeptical on him, even though he plays for my team, but this year (if you dont include the gouging incident), he has consistently been one of the form centres, whereas Hodges was too often injured or offloading the ball over the sideline. Slater, Tahu, Richards & Roberts are all above Ty Williams in my opinion, & Sing has retired from International rep so he cannot warrant selection. Flannery is underrated as hell too.