Billythekid
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Well our start to this year has been less than impressive, and attack still isn't looking to hot. I am just interested to hear everyone else opinion on our squad.
I guess the best way to do it is to look at each player individually but i general comments work to.
Slater - Looks great as always little to be said here. Only negative i can say here is that sometimes i think our rigid structure in attack limits his ability. It would be scary to think what he could achieve playing for someone like the warriors.
Turner - Really his mostly on the team for speed and i have seen him get outrun by players he really shouldn't be. Hes not big, hes not overly quick, doesn't have the best leap or step and sometimes get caught out in defense. Hes a liability at the worst of times and an average winger at the best. He does shut off some overlaps so i should give credit where it's due.
Chambers - Looked better last week but still pretty average. He just doesn't have the try scoring ability we need at the moment. Solid if not spectacular, probably our best outside back so far this year which is saying a lot. Hey at least he doesn't keep running into touch anymore
Isa - Again average. I don't see how he got in front of Tomane. He doesn't look to strong or fast and i have doubts of hes ability to catch the ball. Ineffective in defense and certainly not great at positioning himself. I wouldn't have him on the team right now.
Quinn - The best thing he does is sometimes shut down overlaps by rushing in with a hit. He also makes some hard metres up the ruck. However he is slow for a winger and he is also short. Wingers are there to score tries and well quite frankly Quinn just isn't to good at that. I doubt many would argue that he has been quite sub par so far this year.
Overall our outside backs are sh*thouse, arguably the worst in the league (i know i will get called out on that). How do we improve this i don't know. Maybe start by putting Tomane in front of Isa. Inglis back to the centres would also be great but i guess we don't have a 5/8
. If something doesn't change i can see us being in the bottom half of the top 8 this year.
Inglis - He just goes missing. Best player in the game one week, barely does anything the next. Most of the great plays he does basically involve him running out wide like a centre, perhaps there is a reason for that. He just isn't involved enough for a 5/8 and quite frankly most of the time his ball playing skills are average. He basically just shuffles the ball along. We need him back in the centres.
Cronk - Looks alright. Kicking game has been pretty good. Would like to see him take on the line more effectively. I think hes short passing game with Slater and Hoffman and co has been a little off but i expect there will be a lot more success with it soon. I think he has been under a lot of pressure because he is dealing with a strggling forward back, univolved 5/8 and an incompetant backline. I think he has looked fairly good considering.
Overall i would say our halves have been pretty good. In fact Inglis alone just about won us the first game.
Lima - Solid as always. Solid metres high work rate just what you need from a prop.
Blair - good start to the season. He and Lima are our 2 stand out forwards.
Props i think is one of our strongest areas but i think we are asking to much of them in terms of metres. We need more from the 2nd row.
Koopu - looks alright certainly no metre eater.
Hoffman - Doesn't look his best. We need more from him.
Johnson - Lots of tackles not much else really.
As mentioned above we need more metres here. I think overall our forward pack is been OK but nothing special. I think we really need Sika Manu back. Not sure if Brett White will change anything will have to wait and see.
I won't worry about the bench for now. I know i have been overly harsh, but that's kinda the point of the thread to discuss what is going wrong.
I realise this is mostly doom and gloom and i don't actually expect that. I still think we are a solid chance for a top 4 spot. I just think we really need to improve if we are gonna challenge come September.
I guess the best way to do it is to look at each player individually but i general comments work to.
Slater - Looks great as always little to be said here. Only negative i can say here is that sometimes i think our rigid structure in attack limits his ability. It would be scary to think what he could achieve playing for someone like the warriors.
Turner - Really his mostly on the team for speed and i have seen him get outrun by players he really shouldn't be. Hes not big, hes not overly quick, doesn't have the best leap or step and sometimes get caught out in defense. Hes a liability at the worst of times and an average winger at the best. He does shut off some overlaps so i should give credit where it's due.
Chambers - Looked better last week but still pretty average. He just doesn't have the try scoring ability we need at the moment. Solid if not spectacular, probably our best outside back so far this year which is saying a lot. Hey at least he doesn't keep running into touch anymore
Isa - Again average. I don't see how he got in front of Tomane. He doesn't look to strong or fast and i have doubts of hes ability to catch the ball. Ineffective in defense and certainly not great at positioning himself. I wouldn't have him on the team right now.
Quinn - The best thing he does is sometimes shut down overlaps by rushing in with a hit. He also makes some hard metres up the ruck. However he is slow for a winger and he is also short. Wingers are there to score tries and well quite frankly Quinn just isn't to good at that. I doubt many would argue that he has been quite sub par so far this year.
Overall our outside backs are sh*thouse, arguably the worst in the league (i know i will get called out on that). How do we improve this i don't know. Maybe start by putting Tomane in front of Isa. Inglis back to the centres would also be great but i guess we don't have a 5/8
. If something doesn't change i can see us being in the bottom half of the top 8 this year.Inglis - He just goes missing. Best player in the game one week, barely does anything the next. Most of the great plays he does basically involve him running out wide like a centre, perhaps there is a reason for that. He just isn't involved enough for a 5/8 and quite frankly most of the time his ball playing skills are average. He basically just shuffles the ball along. We need him back in the centres.
Cronk - Looks alright. Kicking game has been pretty good. Would like to see him take on the line more effectively. I think hes short passing game with Slater and Hoffman and co has been a little off but i expect there will be a lot more success with it soon. I think he has been under a lot of pressure because he is dealing with a strggling forward back, univolved 5/8 and an incompetant backline. I think he has looked fairly good considering.
Overall i would say our halves have been pretty good. In fact Inglis alone just about won us the first game.
Lima - Solid as always. Solid metres high work rate just what you need from a prop.
Blair - good start to the season. He and Lima are our 2 stand out forwards.
Props i think is one of our strongest areas but i think we are asking to much of them in terms of metres. We need more from the 2nd row.
Koopu - looks alright certainly no metre eater.
Hoffman - Doesn't look his best. We need more from him.
Johnson - Lots of tackles not much else really.
As mentioned above we need more metres here. I think overall our forward pack is been OK but nothing special. I think we really need Sika Manu back. Not sure if Brett White will change anything will have to wait and see.
I won't worry about the bench for now. I know i have been overly harsh, but that's kinda the point of the thread to discuss what is going wrong.
I realise this is mostly doom and gloom and i don't actually expect that. I still think we are a solid chance for a top 4 spot. I just think we really need to improve if we are gonna challenge come September.
), and adds great aggression and meters on kick returns.
