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How To Fix the NRL 101

pHyR3

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Just letting you know this is going to be a very long post.

The NRL needs to sort out quite a few things at the moment. The biggest in my opinion is the amount of power Ch 9 has over scheduling. It is holding back crowds which are crucial for the game to flourish and attain far more legitimacy.

TV

The current deal is pegged at $1.2 billion including Fox, Ch 9, digital and NZ deals.

I think that instead of going for as much money as possible (which is what gallop did and was something the game needed to compete with SL and union) the NRL should go for a modest amount of around $1.2-1.3 billion with 18 teams. So in reality, it would be cheaper since more footy is being broadcast and it's 5 years on so inflation would up the price anyway.

BUT, the NRL would take back significant power from the broadcasters allowing far better scheduling. Scheduling should involve 2 Friday night games, 3 Saturday games. 1 at 2-3pm, 1 at around 5 and 1 at 7:30pm. 4 Sunday games, 1-2pm, 3pm, 5:00pm and 7:00pm. NO MONDAY NIGHT GAMES. Crowds must be put above all else, this is what the AFL has done and now they can start to focus on TV deals since crowds are fine.

Also, I think that instead of giving certain games to certain channels. Every game should be live (obviously) and simulcast across Fox and a FTA channel, maybe even split up the FTA with 4 games to nine and 5 games to seven/ten (or whatever works). What simulcasting does is it offers people who have foxtel to watch every game on foxtel in HD and also with all that iQ stuff im guessing. Also, double the chance of casual viewers of flicking onto the game and watching.

The second and more important thing it does, is it creates competition between networks. This means any more BS ray warren on 9, boom everyones watching digital foxtel stream or on foxtel. So the quality of broadcasting would probably increase and become more professional. Also, it means that neither channel has a monopoly over the broadcast so they have to advertise the crap out of it if they want good ratings. Same should be done for radio, i quite like triple M over ABC grandstand (which is still good).

I understand that the deal would take a big hit if this happened, and if we sold out the game and expanded we could probably get $1.6 billion or so. But, playing to the consumer's is so much more important right now. If we do that, in the long term the crowds and viewers will flock to NRL and consequently so will sponsors and broadcast deals and we can get maybe $2 billion in 10-15 years.

Crowds

Crowds is a lot more difficult to fix, but there are a few major issues that need to be sorted.

First i've already covered is the scheduling.

second is prices. The NRL needs to create some kind of standard or guideline for GA prices to never exceed $25 incl. booking fee. Create similar limits for reserved (im not on what is reasonable as i always go GA). Again, limit prices of food items and drinks.

Next, begin the shift to bigger stadiums. Parra should play out of Parramatta, Tigers, Dogs out of ANZ, Souths and Roosters out of Allianz, Penrith at Sportingbet, Sharks at shark park, manly at brookie (with solid upgrades). Not sure where dragons should go, but they can decide on that themselves i guess.

Provide direct trains to ANZ (done) and also a direct train OUT of ANZ. Not sure if this is done, but some direct buses to and from Allianz would be great too.


Expansion

I'll keep this short. Perth, new Bris team. 18 teams. Source players from perth, PNG, Fiji, NZ and union.

maybe look into divisions. saw some good articles on theroar.com.au about it.

Scheduling

Origin creates a VERY obvious lull in the season. To counter this there needs to be a 5 week break in the season for SOO with 1 week breaks in between.

During this time numerous internationals can be played in Aus, NZ, the islands and even uk/europe. NZ vs England is a must. Also, U20s SOO, U20s Aus vs NZ, Fiji, PNG, Tonga, France, Samoa, RSA etc. should all play during this time. No need for a full comp, but just numerous friendlies for ELO rankings as is often done in union.

Also put a transfer window for clubs to trade players and generate more interest.

This break removes the lull and instead creates a bit of a mini offseason in terms of people not getting their footy fix and generates immense excitement over the run home, who will make the 8, the 4 and minor premiership.

Limit the competition to either 17 rounds with no byes so every team plays each other once, OR around 20 rounds with teams playing teams in their division twice. 17 games messes up the number of home and away games teams get. With 20 rounds this means 180 games (192 at the moment) and will probably increase crowd avgs as there is less NRL out there.

Misc.

Scrap, all stars. Scrap City Country.

Fix the reffing too (easier said than done).

Good rule changes this season, keep this balance of the speed of the game in the future.
 
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pHyR3

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it's not broken

crowds are down, ratings are down, mememberships are barely up (4-5%) and won't hit 400k in 4 years at this rate.

doesn't seem to be working great, and if somethings not working. it's broke.
 

Matchball

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Putting a roof over ANZ and SFS would get more people out.
Every other sport has adapted to having indoor stadiums.
 

Slackboy72

Coach
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16 teams is too many when the skill deficit in the halves is already noticeable in most teams. 18 is going to be just silly. Put the teams where the revenue is coming in. For every two Sydney teams there should be one Brisbane/SEQ team.
TV we need to cut the ties to Ch9 and News Ltd/Fox Sports. Sell the rights to Ch 7 for a couple of years and see them stump up what it's worth.
Then you have most games of a winter sport being played at night in stadiums that are troublesome to get to and where tickets are over-priced.
..and don't start me on the refs. Not tonight.
 

El Diablo

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crowds are down, ratings are down, mememberships are barely up (4-5%) and won't hit 400k in 4 years at this rate.

doesn't seem to be working great, and if somethings not working. it's broke.

g'day Phil
 

bileduct

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13 teams.

26 round season. Everyone plays each other twice and has two byes.

Kick out the Warriors, Knights and all of the QLD scum.

Bring back Balmain, Norths, Illawarra.

Call it the NSWRL.

Solved.
 

pHyR3

Juniors
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16 teams is too many when the skill deficit in the halves is already noticeable in most teams. 18 is going to be just silly. Put the teams where the revenue is coming in. For every two Sydney teams there should be one Brisbane/SEQ team.
TV we need to cut the ties to Ch9 and News Ltd/Fox Sports. Sell the rights to Ch 7 for a couple of years and see them stump up what it's worth.
Then you have most games of a winter sport being played at night in stadiums that are troublesome to get to and where tickets are over-priced.
..and don't start me on the refs. Not tonight.

the skill deficit isn't that prominent in the halves with 16 teams. It will likely be a bit more obvious with 18, but Perth and bris need teams and waiting longer will likely turn away fans who dont want to wait longer.

as touch footy comes under the nrl umbrella, hopefully that can be used to develop halves skills.

There are still some class halves coming up at the moment, Whighton, Keary, Brooks, Mitch Moses, Cornish, Reynolds, DCE, Mbye, Hodkinson seems decent, Corey norman, Kelly, Strasser, Ben Hunt, Dylan Walker, and im sure there are many more that i havent heard of.

the problem isn't quite as prevalent as you suggest
 

chrisD

Coach
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Step one is bringing back the shoulder charge. Suspending draw card players for engaging in play that the fans want is farcical.
 

Swarzey

Bench
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13 teams.

26 round season. Everyone plays each other twice and has two byes.

Kick out the Warriors, Knights and all of the QLD scum.

Bring back Balmain, Norths, Illawarra.

Call it the NSWRL.

Solved.

NSWRL with an out of state team. BRILLIANT!
 

the dude

Juniors
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Good post.

16 teams is the right amount. If certain areas really push hard for expansion then that would put pressure on teams like Cronulla to get their stuff in order.

I think in 15 years time we'll see 2 new teams outside NSW, probably an 18 team comp unless they cut numbers in Sydney.

Playing out of ANZ (Dogs, Tigers) , SFS (Roosters,Souths,Dragons) and a new development in Blacktown or Liverpool (Panthers, Eels). Upgrade Brookvale (Manly), not sure what happens with Cronulla.

Enter Perth and 2nd Brisbane team.
 

fourplay

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I really dislike how the idea of a "skill defecit" is always brought up.

If you could teleport any of the current top under 20's teams back to the 90's they would likely win the Winfield Cup. The level of the NSW Cup and U/20's is higher than the NRL was 15 years ago. Look at the u/20 Warriors dream team's from a few years ago. Where are they all now? There is easily enough talent for more teams.
 
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