Who said it can't be expanded until after 2022? As far as I can see there's nothing to prevent them signing an additional television deal tomorrow for a ninth game (as a fourth FTA game). Of course they won't while there's still the (remote) possibility of existing clubs leaving at the end of 2017 to form their own comp. But once the clubs are locked into until 2022 and the ARLC's obligations under the new television deals secured (i.e. three games for Channel Nine and five games for Fox Sports each week), there doesn't appear to be any block on creating extra content over and above that before 2022.If the game cant expand until 2022 because of deals done by these suits every one of them should be run out of the sport.
Who said it can't be expanded until after 2022? As far as I can see there's nothing to prevent them signing an additional television deal tomorrow for a ninth game (as a fourth FTA game). Of course they won't while there's still the (remote) possibility of existing clubs leaving at the end of 2017 to form their own comp. But once the clubs are locked into until 2022 and the ARLC's obligations under the new television deals secured (i.e. three games for Channel Nine and five games for Fox Sports each week), there doesn't appear to be any block on creating extra content over and above that before 2022.
Leigh.
Given neither you nor I are privy to the discussions of the ARLC, how do you know a decision in principle hasn't already been taken and it isn't just being kept confidential until existing clubs and funding are locked in? Adding new members to the ARLC is hardly something you'd want to tell the existing members about while haggling with them over funding. Likewise, given the Richardson report potentially maps the strategic plans for the game over many years to come, and those strategic plans would tip off the competition about where we want to expand, I doubt we'd want that document made public. But that doesn't mean the report has been buried or won't be enacted in part or full. As you say, we'll see.We'll see.
But they said THIS year we'd know. That was clearly another lie.
I very much doubt you'll hear anything about expansion until the participation agreements are signed by the remaining clubs and the new CBA is done with the RLPA, locking them, their funding, and the eight games needed to meet the conditions of the television deal in until the end of 2022. Immediately after that, the ARLC will be free to to do what they want with expansion without the threat of clubs (i.e. the Broncos and the weaker clubs) cutting and running, or demanding more money because they perceive a threat from new members. They won't announce expansion tomorrow or the next day, but in six months they'll be able to make a decision and sign a television deal for a ninth game knowing that everything else is secured thru 2022, guaranteeing any expansion teams a clear four or five seasons to establish themselves before the next round of upheavals.
Leigh.
At the time the Channel Nine deal was announced, it was explicitly stated it allowed for expansion during the lifetime of the deal 2018-2022. Nothing that was announced yesterday has contradicted that. We now know the Saturday night game in itself is worth $35m per year. Presumably a ninth game played in Sunday night primetime would be priced in the same ballpark. Knowing that Channel Nine wanted a fourth FTA game, want a second Brisbane team, and have $175m back in their pocket from the re-negotiation I think it's still a very real possibility. Assuming club grants of $13m in 2018 (i.e. 130% of $10m total player payments), $26m per year would appear to be the starting point for negotiations for a ninth game without impacting any of the funding arrangements for the existing 16 teams and eight games.I am sure I heard there is mechanism in place from the TV POV for expansion in 2018. Maybe the amount of additional money for any 9th game is dependant on the markets they expand into. I.e Brisbane would be very valuable but NZ not so much
At the time the Channel Nine deal was announced, it was explicitly stated it allowed for expansion during the lifetime of the deal 2018-2022. Nothing that was announced yesterday has contradicted that. We now know the Saturday night game in itself is worth $35m per year. Presumably a ninth game played in Sunday night primetime would be priced in the same ballpark. Knowing that Channel Nine wanted a fourth FTA game, want a second Brisbane team, and have $175m back in their pocket from the re-negotiation I think it's still a very real possibility. Assuming club grants of $13m in 2018 (i.e. 130% of $10m total player payments), $26m per year would appear to be the starting point for negotiations for a ninth game without impacting any of the funding arrangements for the existing 16 teams and eight games.
Leigh.
there should be less Sydney teams, I'd get rid of Manly, Wests and Cronulla, to the NSW Cup, and just bring in the Central Coast Bears into the NRL. Have 22 Rounds, top 6 into the Finals Series, played over 3 weeks. Stand alone Origins.