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phantom eel

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A timely reminder to fans in dreamland that 3 of the named 5 will be pushing shit up hill to prove that they didn't have prior knowledge and chose not to report these TPA irregularities - and that's just based on 1 document!

The NRL has 750,000 of our documents... let's stop worrying as a club about court cases, and get on with doing our response to the breach notice, and working with the nrl to ensure our squad is cap compliant before Friday so that we can start earning points again.

Kate McClymont's article is quite interesting, but unfortunately too general to be able to ruffle nrl feathers - unless there are whistleblowers out there ready to expose the practices of other clubs?
 

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http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...essions-of-an-nrl-bagman-20160508-gop7ys.html

Rugby league's dirty secret: confessions of an NRL bagman

May 9, 2016 - 12:02AM
Kate McClymont

They are known as "the money men" and they are rugby league's dirty secret.
Every club has them, said one businessman, and he should know because over the years he has both collected "the folding stuff" and put in his own money to try to buy an advantage for his team.
The money men are club diehards whose loyalty to their team is being exploited by club officials who are organising for cash payments to be made directly to players or their managers.
The know they are part of an underhand scheme to deliberately subvert the salary cap. But the money men don't care. Every club does it, they say – especially the wealthier clubs.
"The stronger clubs have got more hangers-on willing to pay. People with clout tend to hang round people with clout," the bagman said.
Clubs like Parramatta, which are run by non-businessmen, are at a disadvantage, he said. "The smart clubs, which are run by professionals, they are the ones who don't get caught."
"If you honestly believe the [names successful club] players fit under the salary cap, you need rocks in your head," the bagman said.
"The top 17 players at the [names club] – every one of those players gets a brown paper bag full of the folding stuff," he said.
He goes on to name a prominent official at this club who collects hundreds of thousands of dollars a year by "putting the squeeze on business people who want to be part of the inner sanctum".
In 2010 the self-confessed bagman was called upon to pay almost $100,000 in cash to a one-time Queensland State of Origin star to sweeten the deal for the famous player to sign with a new club.
Such was the interest in the player, his signing delivered more than 10,000 "bums on seats" at the home games, the bagman told Fairfax Media.
The bagman said some clubs didn't want to know how it was done. They just say that player X needs a certain amount of money, can you sort it out?
At other clubs the bagman said the first thing a coach wanted to know when he came to a club was: Who are the money men?
"They [club officials] organise a dinner, a barbecue or a cruise and they invite all the people who "help out". The coach meets people and then with the CEO they work out a plan of attack, who can do what, who they want to buy and then they approach the money men to see if they can help out
After the "plan of attack" is worked out, sometimes the money men are dispatched to collect payments from the "so-called third party sponsor".
"We are told: 'Go and see Joe Blow at SpareParts.com.
"I say, 'I am here to see you about your player, can you help out?'
"He's already been told, so he says, 'Yeah mate'. And then he goes to the safe and hands over the money. I say, 'If you want the player to come and do some promo work, just let us know'."
In return, the "donors" are given access to the dressing rooms, they and their mates are given tickets, they go on trips with players, their kids get to be ball boys, and they feel part of the inner sanctum.
"Anyone who helps out 'in folding' [money] gets access to anywhere they like. They get looked after," the bagman said.
At the heart of the scheme are the player managers, some of whom siphon off a cut of the money, he said. One player manager lost several high-profile clients after he was caught pocketing cash payments that were meant for his players.
"The player managers orchestrate it. They don't care if the payments to their players are on the books, legitimate TPAs [third party agreements] or a brown paper bag," he said.
He said in the past players were paid outside the salary cap through cars or apartments. The apartments were commonly in brand new developments. The player sold the apartment upon completion but before the land title was officially registered.
That way, it was difficult to trace that they had ever had an interest in the building in question.
The bagman named a club official saying, he is "far too clever to do cars or units or anything like that. [The club official] says it is all in brown paper bags and it gets left on a table for the player manager to pick it up."
Peter Grimshaw, the media spokesman for the NRL, said he would wait to see the allegations before making any comment.
 
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You think they've got a few left to play? Bollocks, they've laid down. Early even.

Yes, they've got their 'code of conduct' left to play. If the Eels try to challenge the decision (rather than process) in court, the NRL will say 'Well.....you signed this agreement saying that you wouldn't challenge our decisions (only our process) in court'.
 

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Thank you Kate.
 

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Yes, they've got their 'code of conduct' left to play. If the Eels try to challenge the decision (rather than process) in court, the NRL will say 'Well.....you signed this agreement saying that you wouldn't challenge our decisions (only our process) in court'.

Yes but did we have a choice ? Equity does this all day every day and review unfair or unconscionable contracts.

Imagine a subway franchise agreement which says you cant sue head office.
 
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Yes but did we have a choice ? Equity does this all day every day and review unfair or unconscionable contracts.

Imagine a subway franchise agreement which says you cant sue head office.

Yeh, I'm more than aware of the doctrine of equity.

Without seeing the 'code of conduct', it is possible that courts would uphold it if the 'no challenge' provisions are not excessively restrictive, and on the grounds that nobody forced the PNRL to join the competition. Note, I'm not arguing that anyone will stop the club challenging in court.....they can't.....what I'm saying is that if we do challenge the decision we may cop a 'breach of code of conduct' charge, which they'll then penalise us for.
 

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None of that article is a suprise, everyone knows it goes on.

Except Todd and the NRL of course..........
 

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I hope McClymont exposes the NRL for the frauds they are.

Suity

There are a rare bunch of journalists who have old school credibility. Kate is one of them. Proud to say she is also a friend of mine.
 
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Kate will never expose them. That's why she has credibility. Question is do you believe her claims ?
 
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Greenberg shoul resign http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...4e43bbde8a803a2f6TheFilthySpammersb323e4847ea

Seward evidence missing from NRL investigation into Eels

The Australian
May 9, 2016 12:00AM
Brent Read
Senior sports writer
Sydney

Parramatta’s legal team is set to ask the NRL this morning whether crucial pieces of evidence were left out of information forwarded to the club late last week amid suggestions the only sign of former chief executive Scott Seward among the documentation was a lone statement.

Seward was believed to be a cornerstone of the NRL investigation into the club’s salary cap breaches but it is understood Eels officials were bemused when they reviewed the documentation and discovered no interview transcript from the club’s former chief executive.

Instead, the only information provided in relation to Seward was a single statement signed on May 2 — the day before the NRL handed down sanctions against the club.

Seward was only allowed to provide evidence to the NRL after the Eels agreed to relent on a confidentiality clause related to his departure from the club.

It is understood Eels directors, including the three who have been singled out by the NRL for their part in the salary cap breaches, devoted much of their weekend to reviewing more than 700 pages of interview transcripts which formed the basis of the NRL’s review of the club.

Those three — chairman Steve Sharp, deputy chairman Tom Issa and director Peter Serrao — along with chief executive John Boulous and head of football Daniel Anderson return to the Supreme Court this morning as they continue their legal action against the club.

The court case heats up as the club accelerates its attempt to become cap compliant when former salary cap auditor Ian Schubert, now a consultant with the Eels, meets his successor at the NRL Jamie L’oste Brown. Schubert believes the club’s salary cap woes are significantly less than the $570,000 suggested by the NRL. The club has already shaved $70,000 off its cap by allowing centre Ryan Morgan to join Melbourne, but the most pertinent issue remains the possible retirement of backrower Anthony Watmough. Watmough is on a mega-contract with Parramatta and his retirement could ease much of their pain, although that would require the NRL accepting Parramatta’s view that his knee problem is a career-ending injury.

Those players not involved in representative football returned to their Parramatta base yesterday, insisting the week off had given them time to freshen up both mentally and physically.

They also expressed regret at knowing what their penalty was for cap breaches — the club will be docked 12 premiership points once the provisional sanctions are confirmed early next month.

“It’s been hanging over our heads all season,” club captain Tim Mannah said.

“The solidarity we’ve showed throughout the whole thing has actually galvanised us and drawn us closer together. It’s not ideal but it’s the cards we’ve been dealt. And we’ve got a team and coaching staff than deal with this.”

Mannah was reluctant to criticise the officials who have taken legal action against the NRL — chief executive Todd Greenberg initially suggested the Eels would be unable to play for premiership points while action remained on the table, although the NRL later backed away from that threat.

“Hard for us to comment on the boardroom because we don’t know all the details,” he said.

“It’s easy for you and I to point our fingers on what we think went wrong. But unless we know exactly what happened it’s no good commenting or throwing our two cents worth in there.”

Fullback Michael Gordon said the players didn’t really want to see anyone forced out and the *decision on Watmough would largely determine how taxing the scandal is on the club’s roster.

“They could take my salary but it’s not much coming off the cap,” Gordon said. “I like to joke about it because there’s no point whingeing or moaning about it. What’s done is done so let’s move forward. All the boys are being really positive and I’m a positive person, so we’ll go from there.

“My opinion at the start of the year is that we were capable of playing finals footy and that hasn’t changed,” Gordon said on losing 12 competition points.

“Nobody wants this season to go to waste. So we’ll come out with a positive attitude. At least now we know we’re still playing.”
 
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