Wrestling thread

[Gary Gutful]

Watch it to relax?

Watch it to avoid talking to their family?

Finish your sentence Hindy.

 

[hindy111]

I was being sarcastic. Wrestling is for Americans and kids.

 

[parra pete]

"He's got him in the old rocking chairrrrrrrrrr."

 

[Wicked Witch Of The West]

Heres a list of the real deal wrestlers.

Randy the macho man savage
The junk yard dog
Mr wonderful
The iron sheik
King kong bundy
Ricky the dragon steamboat
The country boys
Brutus Beefcake

 

[Wicked Witch Of The West]

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Heres a list of the real deal wrestlers.

Randy the macho man savage
The junk yard dog
Mr wonderful
The iron sheik
King kong bundy
Ricky the dragon steamboat
The country boys
Brutus Beefcake

Showing your age there.

 

[eels81236]

Haven't seen wrestling for years. Yet on the Tv at the bar in Beijing airport just now...



Coincidence?

 

[phantom eel]

 

[Gary Gutful]

Those killer bees don't look particularly dangerous.

 

[Bandwagon]

Decreasing the time allowed for defenders to release and or clear the ruck would decrease the wrestle. To take something from wrestling a simple three count after the call of held and if the defenders aren't clear it's a penalty.

Otherwise calling off side players out of play for the entire play ( rather than being able to rejoin the line after retiring ten ) might work to disadvantage sides that commit large numbers to the tackle. As it is you can have two or three players caught in no mans land between the markers and the defensive line who can simply follow the ball carrier, and join the next tackle, whilst conceding ten, that allows easy numbers into the next tackle. win that wrestle and you halt momentum, It could get confusing in plays where the ball is moved around a bit but that could be solved by a pass count or something, say two or three passes by the attack and those players that have retired the ten are no longer out of play.

 

[Obscene Assassin]

I watched wrestling when i was 5. So adults actually watch it to?

Who said I'm not 5?

 

[Obscene Assassin]

I was being sarcastic. Wrestling is for Americans and kids.

Japan seems to think its alright too

 

[Twizzle]

Not the Brain Buster, anything but that. You gotta admit they are well scripted.

 

[Happy MEel]

There's no way any of you merkins will convince me that wrestling is fake!!

 

[Obscene Assassin]

There's no way any of you merkins will convince me that wrestling is fake!!

Nope, never

 

[lingard]

I'm normally the one writing dumb unrelated shit but seeing as everyone else is doing it in this thread, I'm going to answer the question.

All of the suggestions by Fagan, McCallum and Gurr have merit to be honest. Anything that gives defences a bit more comfort that they aren't going to be completely steam rolled if they don't wrestle is a good thing.

McCallums is an easy one - just go back to a 5m rule.

Gurr's 'no lifting' could work but is a bit more complicated and adds another thing that refs have to worry about. There are some instances where a collision and tackle will force a player off the ground so it would be difficult at times to determine whether someone is actually lifting.

Fagan's 'markers not being square' could also work but equally it could be exploited by defences hanging around in the ruck and getting in the way. At least being square is something that is measurable.

Difficult one. I'm not sure a perfect solution exists but clearly the wrestle was much less of an issue under the 5m rule and that seems like the best way getting some balance back in the ruck.

I love it.

 

[lingard]

Decreasing the time allowed for defenders to release and or clear the ruck would decrease the wrestle. To take something from wrestling a simple three count after the call of held and if the defenders aren't clear it's a penalty.[/U][/I][/B]

Otherwise calling off side players out of play for the entire play ( rather than being able to rejoin the line after retiring ten ) might work to disadvantage sides that commit large numbers to the tackle. As it is you can have two or three players caught in no mans land between the markers and the defensive line who can simply follow the ball carrier, and join the next tackle, whilst conceding ten, that allows easy numbers into the next tackle. win that wrestle and you halt momentum, It could get confusing in plays where the ball is moved around a bit but that could be solved by a pass count or something, say two or three passes by the attack and those players that have retired the ten are no longer out of play.

You know what? That sounds like the simplest and most workable solution of them all.

 

[Parra Pride]

 

[lingard]

After the ref calls "held", he counts to three (or whatever number) and defenders still impeding the play the ball are penalised. Simple. If that means that the game is too attack-oriented then, for sure, bring back the five-meter rule. And bring back the inside centre.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

You know what? That sounds like the simplest and most workable solution of them all.

Anything that increases the number of offside defenders on a play adds to the problem IMO. You get annoying f**kwits like Robbie Farah playing for the penalty every time. Plus ultra competitive defenders determined to get back onside to stay in the play but not knowing if they are offside until they attempt the tackle. It's all far too sloppy and open to interpretation.

I suspect the best solution would be to build the game around the assumption of set defensive lines while still allowing for opportunities for attacking play. For me the only solution is reducing the number of players on each team. This is why I love the Nines concept. Even after a slow play the ball you can still play attacking footy. Nine men on the field plus a five metre rule would eliminate much of what is wrong with our game. But is probably too radical a departure for fans invested in the rules as they are. There are still merkins who want scums to go back to being contests!