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Rd4: Non Parra games

Gazzamatta

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and our goal kicking...
While on that. Who is our GK coach? We seem to be pretty average throughout the entire club. Coreys attempt when filling in was just rubbish. Maybe Luke Burt was a pretty important support man. Cant afford to be less than 80% now days.
 

IFR33K

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I hope the nrl take action against smith for staying in the field of play after being sin binned. The touch judge needed to talk to him to get off the field. To think this Moron will go down as one of the greatest ever. His status and the referee’s fear of penalising him have inflated his ego beyond belief.

Compare this moron to how he cheated in the past to Steve smith the Aussie cricket captain. Steve has since been stood down as captain, while this clowns profile continues to grow.
 

Chipmunk

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So 45 mins and 57 secs of game time in tonights match...

51 mins and 53 secs this arvo.

46 mins and 58 secs last night.
 

Poupou Escobar

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27 games this year and 11 of them have had 20 or more penalties...
The weekend is the worse with 3/3 where at least 20 penalties have been blown.

This is a joke and is ruining our game.
I feel like cheating players have been ruining our game, compounded with referees letting them get away with it. Twenty penalties in a game sucks but merkins need to learn. Though I really feel the rules are a problem. The defenders' priority is to not allow a quick play-the-ball. That's their focus. Are they really expected to know when enough is enough in the heat of the moment? Getting off the tackled player quickly in that situation is no different from giving up. It is the defender volunteering to not be involved on the next play. That would be letting their mates down. It's not in their nature.

I believe the rules need to change surrounding the ruck. The whole concept of forcing defenders to be offside on the next play (the current focus of most runs) is just shithouse. It is antithetical to the spirit of the game.
 

Poupou Escobar

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I have zero sympathy for teams like this pair re penalties. They both rely on pushing the barrel to the extreme, and the belief that refs will get sick of penalising them.
Yep. Or they give the refs an easy out with square ups late in the game when they're a dozen points in front. They just give away penalties (instead of quick play-the-balls) on their line and the ref can square the ledger.

I think the sin bin is a great start. Munster tried that bullshit in the final and we scored twice while he was off the field. Without them cheating we might've scored more with the extra ruck speed.
 

Chipmunk

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I feel like cheating players have been ruining our game, compounded with referees letting them get away with it. Twenty penalties in a game sucks but merkins need to learn. Though I really feel the rules are a problem. The defenders' priority is to not allow a quick play-the-ball. That's their focus. Are they really expected to know when enough is enough in the heat of the moment? Getting off the tackled player quickly in that situation is no different from giving up. It is the defender volunteering to not be involved on the next play. That would be letting their mates down. It's not in their nature.

I believe the rules need to change surrounding the ruck. The whole concept of forcing defenders to be offside on the next play (the current focus of most runs) is just shithouse. It is antithetical to the spirit of the game.

There would be some kind of infringement of the rules of rugby league every single play of the ball and you could give away a penalty every time, whether it be in the actual play the ball or players inside the 10 metres. Why choose the particular 20 plus incidents they're now choosing?
 

Poupou Escobar

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I often wonder that myself. What about teams not conceding a single penalty in a half of footy? Surely one-sided refereeing.

It’s not that every team deserves the same number of penalties per half or even per game. But no merkin is perfect over 40 minutes.
 

Gazzamatta

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Cronulla wernt so perfect this week. Hate the penaltyathon but always amusing to see The Storm on the receiving end.
Interesting how many times The Storm went over the sideline. Very similar to The Eels last week.
I wonder what the odds would be on
A) Referees reverting back to their previous form or
B) The players improving their discipline in the eyes of the hierachy.
 

Poupou Escobar

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I know merkins don’t like penalty goals, but they are intended to punish (and hopefully disincentivise) rule breaking. Teams don’t really get to take advantage of penalty goals when they are too far behind on the scoreboard, or at least they think they can’t - I was impressed with Melbourne’s composure in taking the kick when behind tonight. But then there is a benefit to the defending/infringing team in that they get to kick off from half way, forcing the opposition to bring it back off their tryline.

Would there be less cheating if, after a penalty kick, the infringing team had to drop out from the 20, or even from the tryline? Or would there just be a lot more penalty goals?

I suspect, in the moment, the risk/benefit assessment from the defender would always prioritise the less than 100% chance of a penalty over the certainty of a quick play-the-ball. It’s unfair to expect that calculation in the middle of a footy match, especially when it occurs during every tackle.

There are obviously deliberate penalties given but I’d say most of the time the penalised player is genuinely surprised the ref chose to blow the whistle.
 
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Would there be less cheating if, after a penalty kick, the infringing team had to drop out from the 20, or even from the tryline? Or would there just be a lot more penalty goals?
I think less cheating, eventually. They would learn how much it would cost them and if the referees continued to stand firm (like I hope they do now), the coaching would change and so would the 'instinct'. An infringement on your goal line costs the infringing team less than the same offence committed downfield, but it shouldn't. So make the penalty harsher.
 
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