Non Footy Chat Thread II

[Noise]

I reckon Carrie thinks it’s at least as important as other causes. But I’d also agree that a person struggling with a physical or mental condition, or raising funds in the pursuit of curing said conditions, is worth of placing greater importance than a millionaire’s legal battle to justify a wrongful dismissal due to derogatory comments about homosexuals.

Would you @Noise and IALB?

I’m not arguing what’s more deserving of my funds. (I’ve donated to brain cancer and will not be donating to Izzy’s crowd fund. I also haven't donated to the McGrath Foundation. Does that mean I think breast cancer charities are less deserving? No. The one I donated to was more personal to me.) Im arguing that Izzy does not believe his go fund me page is more deserving of donations than other people’s go fund me page. You are just assuming it.

 

[Gary Gutful]

But would an employer sack u for stating "religious beliefs" .... at the end of the day it comes back to if what he said is so bad it should cost him his job

If I posted something like that and it could be traced back to me, I'd be sacked. Granted though, it may not be the case for others.

 

[Happy MEel]

I’m not arguing what’s more deserving of my funds. I’ve donated to brain cancer and will not be donating to Izzy’s crowd fund. Im arguing that Izzy does not believe his go fund me page is more deserving of donations than other people’s go fund me page. You are just assuming it.

Im arguing that he does. You’re also assuming he isn’t.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

I reckon Carrie thinks it’s at least as important as other causes. But I’d also agree that a person struggling with a physical or mental condition, or raising funds in the pursuit of curing said conditions, is worth of placing greater importance than a millionaire’s legal battle to justify a wrongful dismissal due to derogatory comments about homosexuals.

Would you @Noise and IALB?

Sure, but I've already said I don't think it's much of a contest. I wonder if Drew Mitchell ever spends money on anything nonessential, or does he give everything to someone more in need?

 

[Noise]

Im arguing that he does. You’re also assuming he isn’t.

Because I believe that asking for a donation does not mean you think your cause is more deserving of donations than another person's cause. You obviously do because there is only limited money to go around. And therefore as IALB said we might as well say that no one should ever ask for help as long as there's someone more in need.

 

[Happy MEel]

Because I believe that asking for a donation does not mean you think your cause is more deserving of donations than another person's cause. You obviously do because there is only limited money to go around. And therefore as IALB said we might as well say that no one should ever ask for help as long as there's someone more in need.

Absolutely...If someone thinks there is a cause more worthy than the reason they need funds for their own cause at that particular time.

There are far too many charities as it is and this dilutes their impact. Giving 100 charities $1 will do far less than giving 1 charity $100.

 

[Noise]

Absolutely...If someone thinks there is a cause more worthy than the reason they need funds for their own cause at that particular time.

Is it not possible that you can think 2 (or more) causes are equally deserving of donations?

 

[Happy MEel]

Is it not possible that you can think 2 (or more) causes are equally deserving of donations?

Sure. But re. Folau, we’re talking about the cause, not the donor. Also, none of the charities I can think of involve an unfair dismissal claim. For those that donated, perhaps they would have given that money to a more deserving cause.

 

[Noise]

Sure. But re. Folau, we’re talking about the cause, not the donor. Also, none of the charities I can think of involve an unfair dismissal claim. For those that donated, perhaps they would have given that money to a more deserving cause.

Do you honestly believe that every GoFundMe page thinks their fund is more deserving of donations than everyone else's gofundme? Or is it quite possible that some of these GoFundMes also believe that other GoFundMes are also worth donating to?

As for your last point, that is a choice for the donor, not Izzy's beliefs around who's deserving of donations.

 

[Happy MEel]

Do you honestly believe that every GoFundMe page thinks their fund is more deserving of donations than everyone else's gofundme? Or is it quite possible that some of these GoFundMes also believe that other GoFundMes are also worth donating to?

As for your last point, that is a choice for the donor, not Izzy's beliefs around who's deserving of donations.

I reckon plenty of people using gofundme pages are selfish merkins. Folau is one of them. There are others that are more deserving, and in there particular circumstance, their cause is the most important to them.

As for your last sentence, that’s a sad indictment on society that people think this is more worthy.

 

[Noise]

I reckon plenty of people using gofundme pages are selfish merkins. Folau is one of them. There are others that are more deserving, and in there particular circumstance, their cause is the most important to them.

As for your last sentence, that’s a sad indictment on society.

Yep I hate GoFundMe. I had one girl from school try to start one because her friend's dog bit her face. Not serious or life threatening and not for any real medical bills. She said she wanted the funds to help with cosmetic surgery so she won't have a mark on her face. In her mid 30s at the time. She raised SFA lol.
Anyway I don't believe Folau thinks he is the most deserving donation on the whole of GoFundMe. I think it's much more likely that he just sees it as an easy way to raise cash, just like every merkin on GoFundMe, not that he is the more deserving than everyone else on the site.

 

[84 Baby]

Does asking for donations automatically mean you think your cause is more important than someone else's cause?

I think what he means is that charitable donations are hard to get. A millionaire seeking his legal fees to be paid to get himself out of a self inflicted brouhaha is not exactly high on the list compared to kids terminal illnesses and the homeless.

I said it in the stuff thread. There’s a very particular reason Folau is (told to) doing it this way and it has a lot to do with this wording

https://www.gofundme.com/f/Israel-folau-legal-action-fund

And nothing to do with stealing money off the neuroblastoma kid, although if they can grab some of that money they’ll take it.

Actually that’s a bit unfair to the people I’m referring to. They are really quite benevolent

 

[84 Baby]

Anyway RIP Mr Movies

 

[Gronk]

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

*OF...ffs

 

[hindy111]

I’m not arguing what’s more deserving of my funds. (I’ve donated to brain cancer and will not be donating to Izzy’s crowd fund. I also haven't donated to the McGrath Foundation. Does that mean I think breast cancer charities are less deserving? No. The one I donated to was more personal to me.) Im arguing that Izzy does not believe his go fund me page is more deserving of donations than other people’s go fund me page. You are just assuming it.

I donate only to the Salvos. Atleast they take change. Sick of people wanting my visa for a charity. I dont mind throwing homeless people $5 to get a beer or high if its on the weekends.
Never understood why friends say they only use that money for drugs or alchol. If I was homeless id most likely do the same. What is the difference how they chose to spend the money.

 

[hindy111]

If I posted something like that and it could be traced back to me, I'd be sacked. Granted though, it may not be the case for others.

The thing is we are blaming Izzy for what he believes. And that was most likely pushed by his parents. In his eyes he is helping and trying to save people including homosexual people by letting them know.

 

[Gronk]

I donate only to the Salvos. Atleast they take change. Sick of people wanting my visa for a charity. I dont mind throwing homeless people $5 to get a beer or high if its on the weekends.
Never understood why friends say they only use that money for drugs or alchol. If I was homeless id most likely do the same. What is the difference how they chose to spend the money.

The nuns from Randwick set up a card table outside coles looking for donations. They have an eftpos machine.

 

[Noise]

The nuns from Randwick set up a card table outside coles looking for donations. They have an eftpos machine.

There is a Church at Manly that has a swipe EFTPOS machine (unmanned) that sits next to the door that you can swipe to donate as you enter/exit

 

[Happy MEel]

Yep I hate GoFundMe. I had one girl from school try to start one because her friend's dog bit her face. Not serious or life threatening and not for any real medical bills. She said she wanted the funds to help with cosmetic surgery so she won't have a mark on her face. In her mid 30s at the time. She raised SFA lol.
Anyway I don't believe Folau thinks he is the most deserving donation on the whole of GoFundMe. I think it's much more likely that he just sees it as an easy way to raise cash, just like every merkin on GoFundMe, not that he is the more deserving than everyone else on the site.

I reckon your self absorbed girl from school probably does reckon her cause is the most important thing in her world...just as Izzy does. A merkin that lists this on his page certainly appears to place enormous importance on his cause...

“My faith is the most important thing in my life. I try to live my life according to the Bible and I believe it is my duty to share the word of the Bible....

my faith defines me as a person. I do not believe that it is fair or right that I be punished for my religious beliefs.”