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2019 GF | PREMIERS - Roosters 14-8 Raiders @ ANZ

Grand Final: Roosters v Raiders


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Chook Norris

First Grade
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The general public has sub 50 rugby league iq

Unfortunately the same general public are the game's fan base who we need to cater for. I love rugby league and it pains me that the media, and the general public, are making it out that one call "robbed the raiders."

The stunning contrast I had was the experience at the game vs the TV/social media experience (I watched snippets afterwards).

At the game, it was awesome. Probably the best atmosphere I've ever witnessed and the most intense game I've watched. Raiders fans were out in numbers and both sets of fans were making large noise. I was surrounded by Raiders fans but did not hear any complaints about refereeing decisions supposedly deciding the game. People at the game (at lesst around me) had accepted the game had reached a fair outcome. This is how the game is meant to be consumed, not watching endless replays on a screen.

When the game finished, I switched to social media/TV commentary. The contrast was stunning. Everyone else had decided that their second team was "robbed" and was meant to win. Absolutely no talk of key moments in attack that the Raiders might've blundered.

These were the same fans on social media who had applauded the incorrect call, three weeks ago, that Vunivalu was out (when he was not). Arguably that was a bigger call than the six to go
 

skeepe

Immortal
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or people like Skeepe.

In reply to the so-called trip -

"It is permissible for a tackler to bring a player in possession of the ball to the ground by pulling him over the outstretched leg provided he is holding the player with both arms before there is any contact with the leg."

From Note 1, Section 11, Rules of the game of rugby league on page 23.

Keary might have contact with the hands, but to call it a hold is a mighty stretch.
 

Meapro Ham

Juniors
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A call was made and it was changed while play continued. Whether the call was correct or not it should have stood. What in fact happened was that gravely disadvantaging one side was given preference over gravely disadvantaging the other, and surprise surprise it was yet again the Roosters who received the advantage.

Penrith fans - still salty about Fittler after all these years
 

Walt Flanigan

Referee
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20,727
The last try we were just shot. It happens but that early in the game we had to do better

I think it was partly due to the reshuffle when CNK went off too. Sezer was defending on the wing for some reason. CNK was playing out of his skin and I had a feeling we were done when he went off with ten to go
 

Meapro Ham

Juniors
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So for those that think the sin binning was the right call, why didn’t Croker get binned for the escort on Morris at the end of the first half? It’s a foul on a player in a try scoring position. If Morris gets a clean catch he’s a pretty good chance of scoring. Should be a binning by the same logic as Cronk.
 

firechild

First Grade
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So for those that think the sin binning was the right call, why didn’t Croker get binned for the escort on Morris at the end of the first half? It’s a foul on a player in a try scoring position. If Morris gets a clean catch he’s a pretty good chance of scoring. Should be a binning by the same logic as Cronk.
An escort has never been a sin bin offense. However, tackling a player in a try scoring position without the ball is. See Jake Turbo's binning just 2 weeks ago much further from the try line. You're really clutching at straws here.
 

Vic Mackey

Referee
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So for those that think the sin binning was the right call, why didn’t Croker get binned for the escort on Morris at the end of the first half? It’s a foul on a player in a try scoring position. If Morris gets a clean catch he’s a pretty good chance of scoring. Should be a binning by the same logic as Cronk.

Surely this makes @adamkungl s hot takes? Or are Roosters fans excluded?
 

Meapro Ham

Juniors
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An escort has never been a sin bin offense. However, tackling a player in a try scoring position without the ball is. See Jake Turbo's binning just 2 weeks ago much further from the try line. You're really clutching at straws here.

An escort is obstructing a player without the ball. Same thing.
 

Pete Cash

Post Whore
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An escort has never been a sin bin offense. However, tackling a player in a try scoring position without the ball is. See Jake Turbo's binning just 2 weeks ago much further from the try line. You're really clutching at straws here.

The nrl came out and said melbourne copped a bad one against us when Whitehead tackled a player on suspicion ane didnt get sin binned. They've made it pretty clear if its a try scoring situation its a sin bin
 

nick87

Coach
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So for those that think the sin binning was the right call, why didn’t Croker get binned for the escort on Morris at the end of the first half? It’s a foul on a player in a try scoring position. If Morris gets a clean catch he’s a pretty good chance of scoring. Should be a binning by the same logic as Cronk.

good grief
 

Meapro Ham

Juniors
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I’m not actually saying that Croker’s escort should have been a binning. You’re all missing my point. What I’m saying is the Cronk binning was stupid and if you’re going to bin for that then it starts to bring into question anything that involves a try scoring situation.
 

bileduct

Coach
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or people like Skeepe.

In reply to the so-called trip -

"It is permissible for a tackler to bring a player in possession of the ball to the ground by pulling him over the outstretched leg provided he is holding the player with both arms before there is any contact with the leg."

From Note 1, Section 11, Rules of the game of rugby league on page 23.
Both arms, hey...

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big hit!

Bench
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A moment of fatigue and laziness caught Raiders out. It was the 4th tackle and Roosters used the width of the field ending with Plodner tackled by BJ. With BJ around Boyds bootlaces, every Raiders player retreated to the defensive line. There was no marker. Keary at acting half exposes both breakdowns - scoots from acting half and attacks the short-side defence who are short their 2-man - Leilua. Keary hits the whole between Bateman and Sezer, draws the half and the rest is history.

Raiders needed to do something similar while Cronk was off - using width. They did f**k all.

But the refs call is still a dud. Wighton could’ve kept play alive, could’ve kicked the ball, could’ve scored, could’ve got a repeat set, Canberra could’ve attempted a field goal (unlikely considering the mayhem and not being set for it). Basically, Roosters may never have received the ball back and not had an opportunity. They did and they took advantage which is what great teams do.
 

nick87

Coach
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I’m not actually saying that Croker’s escort should have been a binning. You’re all missing my point. What I’m saying is the Cronk binning was stupid and if you’re going to bin for that then it starts to bring into question anything that involves a try scoring situation.

you’ve lost the f**king plot mate
Have a nap and come back tomorrow

Christ almighty
 

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