Sydney Sharks

[MugaB]

Sad, isn’t it but hey what do we know

Nothing apparently, it's whatecer todd makes as the narrative, we'll just eat it up

 

[Wily Ole Dog]

Off to the crusher, cheers

 

[T-Boon]

Having used the new Sydney trams I can say that any team playing out of crap stadium (Souths, Cronulla, Dragons, Sea Eagles) not looking into moving to Moore Park once this stadium is complete is nuts. It is great infrastructure.

 

[Walter sobchak]

I'd also think about rebranding Manly to the Sydney Sea Eagles and have them play out of North Sydney Oval. That is better location for trains etc. Close enough to Manly that a lot of their existing fans will still attend and so on and so forth.

Should have been the north Sydney sea eagles playing out of the North Sydney oval years ago.

 

[Walter sobchak]

Sydney Sharks
Sydney Roosters
Sydney Sea Eagles

all covering the City and its suburbs.

North Sydney sea eagles.
St George Sutherland sharks.
Central coast roosters/Adelaide roosters.

 

[taipan]

North Sydney sea eagles.
St George Sutherland sharks.
Central coast roosters/Adelaide roosters.

Why not go the whole hog.
The Parramatta Panthers
The Bulltigers.
That'll bring the crowds back, well at least to other forms of entertainment.

 

[T-Boon]

Why not go the whole hog.
The Parramatta Panthers
The Bulltigers.
That'll bring the crowds back, well at least to other forms of entertainment.

I don’t like mergers. They destroy both clubs. A sharks move and name change to Sydney would be more like growing up and getting ambitious.

 

[taipan]

I don’t like mergers. They destroy both clubs. A sharks move and name change to Sydney would be more like growing up and getting ambitious.

Having they Sharks line up with the Dragons/Illawarra ,would create a triple merger.So you are creating a merger once again.
1. Resulting in 3 clubs weakened.Further eroding their current bases.Dumb when you have competing codes in the city.
2. Calling a club Sydney, when the areas involved are either on the fringes or outside ,is as dumb as GWS calling Western NSW and the ACT as part of Greater Western Sydney..
3. Think the Sharks are trying to be ambitious, by purchasing another asset the Kareela Golf Club and its extended area.And building a Centre of Excellence once the current redevelopment around the club( in progress now) is completed.
4.The Dragons v Sharks derbies would be no morel and further reduce interest in the game.

The last thing the code needs now is further major dramas ,creating fan discontent and loss of support.
We have loons doing enough damage on social media.

 

[myrrh ken]

Storm Tigers Panthers and bulldogs could all merged into Raining Cats and Dogs.

 

[flippikat]

I don’t like mergers. They destroy both clubs. A sharks move and name change to Sydney would be more like growing up and getting ambitious.

Given how ham-fisted, ill-matched, disfunctional & geographically bizarre were the mergers we've *already had*, you wouldn't have too much confidence in the NRL/clubs a) picking the right clubs to partner up together (geographically AND culturally) and b) once merged, the combined clubs managing a side together with any cohesion, let alone success.

However relocations are an untested scenario in the NRL. We know they *can* work, given experience of the AFL (moving Melbourne clubs to non-AFL heartland cities of Sydney & Brisbane, that is) but the appetite doesn't seem to be there in the NRL. A shame, because a club moving to a market like Adelaide or Perth could be a key part of the solution to the expansion puzzle.

 

[MugaB]

Given how ham-fisted, ill-matched, disfunctional & geographically bizarre were the mergers we've *already had*, you wouldn't have too much confidence in the NRL/clubs a) picking the right clubs to partner up together (geographically AND culturally) and b) once merged, the combined clubs managing a side together with any cohesion, let alone success.

However relocations are an untested scenario in the NRL. We know they *can* work, given experience of the AFL (moving Melbourne clubs to non-AFL heartland cities of Sydney & Brisbane, that is) but the appetite doesn't seem to be there in the NRL. A shame, because a club moving to a market like Adelaide or Perth could be a key part of the solution to the expansion puzzle.

Roosters in Adelaide would be perfect

 

[T-Boon]

However relocations are an untested scenario in the NRL. We know they *can* work, given experience of the AFL (moving Melbourne clubs to non-AFL heartland cities of Sydney & Brisbane, that is) but the appetite doesn't seem to be there in the NRL. A shame, because a club moving to a market like Adelaide or Perth could be a key part of the solution to the expansion puzzle.

South Sydney have relocated from Redfern and Moore Park to Homebush. Whats that 30kms? That is all I am suggesting for the Sharks.

 

[MugaB]

Sharks are fine in the shire, why the need to merge or turf them, they have a unique pocket of sydney that no one will touch unless they removed, out of all the teams in sydney, roosters are the only team that leaves no footprint, if picked up and moved or turfed

 

[flippikat]

Roosters in Adelaide would be perfect

Yeah, if I had to choose which Sydney club it would be the Roosters - but to be honest, if we had Perth & Brisbane 2 added plus ANY Sydney club moved to Adelaide then we'd have a pretty good footprint for the medium-term.

Yeah, there's "nice-to-haves" like a 2nd NZ club, and/or 2nd Perth club (guaranteed early & late timeslot every week), or 2nd Melbourne club (derby in a really big city), or 3rd Brisbane club.. but for the here-and-now, 18 teams with Perth, Adelaide & Brisbane 2 is a good base for the competition.

The task then is identifying which "nice-to-haves" we want after that & putting in the leg-work to achieve them.

 

[taipan]

South Sydney have relocated from Redfern and Moore Park to Homebush. Whats that 30kms? That is all I am suggesting for the Sharks.

The bulk or at least a fair number of the Souths fans are now living in inner or outer western suburbs.Souths did not merge also, and good on them.Check the number of Souths fans when souths play at Penrith as an example.Souths relocated from Redfern because of their fan base and because they received money from ANZ to do so.
So you water down a club to a 3 way merger ,lose the bulk of Shark's supporters not only living in the Shire but outside also, have no local derbies and reduce Tv interest in Sydney.Competitors would love that to happen.
TBH it's an unrealistic proposition.If the Sharks had no other choice ,then that's a different situation.

 

[taipan]

Storm Tigers Panthers and bulldogs could all merged into Raining Cats and Dogs.

That has to be one of the posts of the year.Unfortunately the year is only 27 days old ,so ya gonna have to sweat it out for another 338.

 

[Perth Red]

Sharks are fine in the shire, why the need to merge or turf them, they have a unique pocket of sydney that no one will touch unless they removed, out of all the teams in sydney, roosters are the only team that leaves no footprint, if picked up and moved or turfed

as long as we are happy with 15k crowd averages then yes they are.

 

[MugaB]

as long as we are happy with 15k crowd averages then yes they are.

Better than 0k crowds and 0 presence in the shire, Sutherland shire is quite large, if they are concerned about more crowds, maybe take a few home games to fiji, and making the remaining home games more valuable

 

[myrrh ken]

as long as we are happy with 15k crowd averages then yes they are.

Better than the 10K the Reds got.

 

[MrE_Assassin]

Having a bunch of teams with Sydney as their geographic signifier is a bit silly, so maybe they should be the North Sydney Sea Eagles or maybe North Shore Sea Eagles, but aside from that this is a no brainier that should have happened 20 years ago.

I'm pretty sure a number of teams tried this at the end of the 90's. The Bulldogs had changed their name to Sydney Bulldogs at the same time the Roosters became Sydney City. The Bulldogs scrapped the idea before the season started. They Balmain Tigers had also intended to remove the Balmain name for Sydney but quickly reverted back.