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Foxsports Top 20 Players of the NRL Era

Vee

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I thought this was worth posting. Better than the usual fluff pieces they produce.

I thought Benji was a touch high as the other names around him are outright legends, maybe his ineligibility for Origin colours my view. Interesting that Cronk rated higher than Thurston, I guess his premierships are the reason for that. Had Thurston played in the teams Cronk did, I think he would have won a lot as well. Fittler would have been higher but only played the twilight of his glittering career in the NRL and SBW could have been near the top if he'd stayed in the Greatest Game of All.

I'd forgotten how good Ben Kennedy was, certainly agree with his selection, Danny Buderus as well.


20 – BRETT STEWART

By the time Brett Stewart finished his career in 2016 with Manly-Warringah he was sixth on the game’s all time tryscorers list with 163.

There wasn’t a half chance he didn’t like the look of, or a risk deemed that he wasn’t willing to take.

No player had a greater affinity with their home ground than Stewart did, so much so it led to Ray Warren calling him ‘The Baron Of Brookvale’ after scoring 87 tries in 98 games at the famous ground.

For a whole generation of kids on the Northern Peninsula, Stewart became a crowd favourite.

At the height of his powers, he was the most lethal player in one of the best teams of the

modern era. Stewart was blessed with bullet-like speed that made him arguably the best support player since Terry Lamb and his combination with brother Glenn gave opponents more headaches than they could often handle.

When he missed the best part of two seasons with knee injuries Manly were bounced in week one of the finals both times. On either side of those two seasons – in 2008 and 2011 and when he was fully fit – the Sea Eagles won the premiership. His consistency and ability to strike lifted Manly from a mid-table team to genuine contenders.

He scored at least 10 tries in nine different seasons and scored more than 20 in a season on two separate occasions. He also had at least 10 linebreaks across nine different seasons and in the latter half of his career registered double-digit try assists in five consecutive seasons.

19 – ANTHONY MINICHIELLO

Former Roosters coaching director Phil Gould regularly described Anthony Minichiello as a ‘human pinball’ and at his peak he was mentioned in the same breath as Johns and Lockyer as the NRL’s best player.

The man affectionately known as ‘The Count’ started his career as a winger with blinding speed before switching to the fullback position amid the Roosters’ dominance in the early 2000s.

Before back injuries curtailed his stellar career, Minichiello was dynamite with the ball in hand, regularly embarrassing defences on kick returns. In an era of great fullbacks, he was able to stand right at the top of the list with his aptitude for finishing tries and uncanny ability to break tackles despite only tipping the scales at 91kg.

Between 2003-2005 he was simply unstoppable at club level where he played a total of 98 games for club, state and country winning 65 of them. He also amassed a whopping 364 tackle breaks in his 72 appearances for the Tricolours to go with his 42 tries, 59 line breaks and mind boggling average of 178.7 metres per game.

After playing just 33 games in the four seasons following his insane peak due to numerous back injuries Minichiello finished his career by making a sensational return to NSW in 2011 with a man-of-the-match performance. He also captained the Sydney Roosters to their 13th premiership and played his 300th game before calling it a day in 2014.

18 – JAMES MALONEY

Wherever he goes he wins.

It’s no coincidence only one five-eighth during the NRL era has taken three different teams to grand finals and won two of them.

While he is often the butt of jokes for his lack of ability in defence he more than makes up for it with the arrogance he can bring to teams on the attacking side of the ball. Maloney’s NRL career took off when he arrived at the Warriors in 2010 and took them to a grand final in 2011.

The Roosters missed the finals in 2012 and when Maloney showed up in 2013, he was instrumental in the Tri-Colours lifting the trophy.

During his three seasons at the Roosters they were the minor premiers in each season and he produced no fewer than 23 try assists in each season.

Cronulla became his next stop during his gun-for-hire career and with it came the biggest challenge of his career – delivering the Sharks their maiden premiership. It’s hard to articulate what Maloney did for the 2016 Sharks but when Shane Flanagan alluded to the fact that the playmaker’s carefree attitude worried him, it signalled the Sharks had evolved from battle-hardened scrappers to true premiership contenders.

Maloney also led the NSW Blues to an Origin series victory in 2018 with 12 debutants alongside him

After an Origin I performance in 2018 where he was involved in all NSW and Queensland tries, coach Brad Fittler said “his mindset never changes regardless of the score or time in the game … it’s quite a unique mindset … an incredible weapon to have with a team full of rookies.”

Called upon by NSW to save the series in 2019 he produced his greatest Origin performance to spearhead a huge 38-6 win over Queensland before playing a role in securing a second series win three weeks later.

17 – SONNY BILL WILLIAMS

Despite playing just 118 games across two stints in the NRL, the indelible mark Williams left on the rugby league landscape is hard to ignore.

Had he never crossed codes he would certainly be higher on the list. Debuting as a centre for Canterbury in 2004 at just 18 years old he showed a glimpse of what was to come, scoring two tries against Parramatta. Later that season he would go on to win a premiership with the Bulldogs and play Test football for New Zealand.

The man who made him the youngest ever Kiwi debutant, Frank Endacott, told The Guardian in 2004 during the Tri Nations: “I can tell you he’s going to be something very special. Players like him come along once every 10 or 15 years, if that.”

Williams would play just five games in 2005 but once fully fit again in 2006 he wreaked havoc against opposition forward packs where he regularly lined blokes up and dished out punishment with his trademark left shoulder.

In a time where the shoulder charge was a huge weapon he was perhaps the finest exponent. Coupled with his defensive prowess, was a freakish ability to offload under pressure and create for teammates. His strength in contact made him harder to handle than a runaway train.

After his controversial exit in 2008 he returned to the NRL in 2013 to the Roosters where he became their spiritual leader and helped take them to a premiership.

His game had evolved to the point where he could ball play before the defensive line as good as some halfbacks while his offloading skills remained effective. He played on again in 2014 before leaving the game once again. Had he still been in the league and not gone away for five years in the middle he might well be the best forward ever to play in the NRL.

16 – BEN KENNEDY

No one played on the razor’s edge or with more ferocity than Ben Kennedy.

It was his greatest strength and his biggest weakness only playing more than 20 games just once in his first nine seasons. His tenacious hard-running and willingness to offload made him a nightmare to defend. Kennedy’s rise to prominence in Canberra coincided with the fall of the ‘Green Machine’ era but his winning percentage never finished lower than 50 per cent.

He also only lost twice in 13 appearances for NSW and in 16 Tests for Australia he won 12 times.

In 2000 Newcastle were desperate for a wide-running strike forward and they threw the kitchen sink at him. His arrival to the Hunter Region delivered the Knights their second premiership and his performance in the 2001 grand final led many to believe he should have won the Clive Churchill Medal and not Andrew Johns.

In 2002, he only managed 11 games but the Knights won eight.

And in 2003 he only took the field 13 times but Kennedy played in nine wins. To this day it is still the greatest signing in the club’s history despite the recent acquisitions of Kalyn Ponga and Mitchell Pearce and David Klemmer, that tells you the enormity of his signature.

When he arrived at a rebuilding Manly in 2005 it was Kennedy who changed the culture on the Northern Beaches. Manly’s first three seasons back in the NRL were dire, yet the moment Kennedy set foot on Brookvale Oval they became winners again.

After just two seasons as a Sea Eagle he was named in their greatest ever team in 2008 showing the high regard he is held in north of the Harbour Bridge.

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15 – PETERO CIVONICEVA

It didn’t matter what it was, legend has it Petero Civoniceva was always the last man standing.

Whether it be a gruelling pre-season training session, Origin’s fiercest contest or a night out with teammates, Petero was the bloke everyone wanted in the foxhole.

The enormous Fijian prop didn’t debut until he was 22 but for the 14 years that followed he consistently paved a highway downfield for Brisbane, Penrith, Queensland, Australia and even a cameo appearance for Fiji aged 36.

Civoniceva may have come through the grades as a centre but Wayne Bennett helped craft him into one of the finest props to play the game.

He had great success at Brisbane by playing in three premiership-winning teams and he also took part in eight series wins for Queensland where he formed an indefatigable prop rotation with Shane Webcke and later Steve Price.

An underrated part of his game was his hitting power in defence, with Darren Lockyer writing in his book Civoniceva never got the raps he deserved for how hard he belted blokes in defence.

During game three of the 2003 Origin series he hit Jason Ryles so hard he almost ended his career with a shoulder injury.

Between 2001-2011 Civoniceva played 235 club games and ran for an average of 136.4 metres per game as well as 23.4 tackles per game.

He showed great resilience to play well into his 30s and maintain such a ridiculous level of excellence late into his career.

14 – SAM BURGESS

Arguably the greatest English forward to play in Australia alongside Malcolm Reilly. Size, brute strength, aggression, leadership and consistency made Big Sam one of the best

middle forwards of his era.

Burgess was just 17 when he debuted in the Super League for Bradford and was brought to South Sydney as a 21-year old.

He made an instant impact with his ability to pull off huge tackles and steamroller opposition with ball in hand. His rise as the game’s best forward led to South Sydney to the top four for three consecutive seasons.

His highlight reel of big hits made him a ‘don’t run at player x’ target from coaches in team meetings and a personal vendetta against a returning Sonny Bill Williams made him one of the rare personality players of the modern game.

Between 2012-2014 he had a three-year stretch where he averaged 147m per game to go with 29 tackles per game. He also had 36 linebreaks, 104 offloads, 206 tackle busts and was instrumental in South Sydney’s 2014 premiership where he was the Clive Churchill Medal winner.

Alongside Inglis and coach Michael Maguire, Burgess was the most important cog in the South Sydney machine that delivered the drought-breaking premiership back to ‘the pride of the league’.

The fact he played all but 10 seconds of the 2014 Grand Final with a broken cheekbone and was named man of the match will never be forgotten as long as South Sydney play the game.

13 – GORDEN TALLIS

NRL360 host Ben Ikin once said “playing with Gorden Tallis was like bringing a machine gun to a knife fight”.

Those fourteen words strike vivid imagery of Tallis bashing his way up field with reckless abandon and assaulting opposition forwards when it came time for them to run at ‘The Raging Bull’.

Tallis began his career in 1992 as a supersub player for the St George Dragons but by the time the NRL kicked off in 1998 he was the world’s most damaging back rower. Ask Terry O’Connor, Martin Lang, Nik Kosef, Jamie Ainscough, Ben Ross, Brett Hodgson and even referee Bill Harrigan as rightly or wrongly they’ve all ended up with the raw end of the pineapple when they’ve crossed paths with him. Along with Ben Kennedy he was the other forward throughout his era that played on the razors edge which made him a terrifying prospect each time you came up against the all-conquering Brisbane Broncos.

During the NRL era he was Brisbane’s big dog in the forward pack where he won two premierships, a Clive Churchill medal and the Dally M second rower of the year crown in 1999.

Tallis would only miss the finals once during his playing career and had a win rate of 64.5 per cent. He would also become the third indigenous player to captain Queensland’s State of Origin team and just the fourth to do it at Test level for the Kangaroos. In 2008 he was also named as a second rower in the indigenous team of the century.

12 – JASON TAUMALOLO

If you’ve ever tried to tackle a vending machine with late footwork and an unexpected turn of speed, then and only then can you say you’ve tried to stop Jason Taumalolo.

The hulking Tongan made his first-grade debut as a gigantic 17-year old and was earmarked for success with the North Queensland Cowboys.

Once thought of as a wide-running backrower, he transformed his game and lifted the Cowboys into premiership contention once he moved to lock where his explosive power, late footwork and insatiable appetite for bulldozing opponents bore fruit.

Before Taumalolo’s rise to the top of the NRL post-contact metres were barely measured, but his ascension made it a huge talking point not only with commentators but fans of the game. He is the only non-hooker to win the Dally M Medal as a forward since 1998, claiming the award in 2016 along with Cooper Cronk.

Since the beginning of 2015 and his positional switch he has run for more than 200m on 37 occasions, and over the last two seasons he has cracked the 300m mark twice.

The numbers behind his 2017 season are almost mythical, where he became the only forward in NRL history to run for 5,000 metres in a season, averaged 194.2 metres per game, registered 121 tackle breaks and had two separate four game stretches where he ran for at least 200 metres.

Taumalolo’s switch from New Zealand to Tonga has also revolutionised the international game, leading his nation of heritage from also-rans to just moments away from a World Cup final.

Despite internal issues with Tongan Rugby League he played an enormous role in the Tongan Invitational XIII defeating Great Britain and Australia in consecutive Tests in 2019.

He is without doubt the most destructive forward of the NRL era and is still only 26 years old.

11 – SHANE WEBCKE

No-nonsense, uncompromising and arguably the best prop of the NRL era, Shane Webcke set the bar extremely high for modern day props.

Webcke was built like a shipping container, had an engine that resembled a 350 Chevrolet and the can-do attitude that allowed him to bulldoze a platform down the middle for the Broncos, Queensland and Australia.

He was also renowned as an elite trainer, with Darren Lockyer recalling in his biography that ‘if anyone was lazy the punishment was they had to train with Webby … and he was either zero or 400 miles an hour’.

He was instrumental in three Broncos premierships, of which he played the 2000 finals series with a broken arm, and for three consecutive years between 2000 – 2002 he was voted as the Dally M Prop Of The Year.

He also got a fairytale ending by winning the 2006 premiership in his last game.

While he didn’t kick the decisive field goal, it was Webcke who made one last enormous charge, fighting off would-be tacklers to get Lockyer in position to win the game.

That one play typified what Webcke stood for as the premier prop of his time.

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10 - DANNY BUDERUS

Before Cameron Smith he was by far the best hooker in the NRL for a period between 2001 and 2006.

Buderus debuted in 1997 and spent time at fullback, centre and halfback before the arrival of the legendary Steve Walters at Newcastle in 1999 helped to transform him into one of the all-time legends of the sport.

He formed a lethal combination at club, state and international level with Andrew Johns where he picked apart his opposition with crisp service, enthusiastic defence, football intelligence and a dominant running game. He was a linchpin in NSW’s dominance of the early 2000s with three straight series wins including captaining in 2004 and 2005.

Despite defending in the middle of the field with his smaller frame as opposed to traditional hookers, he could often be seen throwing his body at huge opposition players with no care for his own.

After a four-year stint in the Super League he returned to his beloved Knights and as a wily 35-year old he helped orchestrate an unlikely charge to the preliminary final in 2013, making it the club’s best season since the 2001 grand final win.

Quite often Johnathan Thurston has been lauded for his competitive spirit, but never forget the will-to-win Danny Buderus had, with many former teammates and analysts often praising the spirit in which he played.

9 - BENJI MARSHALL

No player has been emulated more by kids at local parks and sporting grounds.

The enormous sidestep, the breathtaking flick passes, the attacking wizardry of Benji Quentin

Marshall under the tutelage of Tim Sheens made him a fan favourite and one of the most popular players in rugby league history.

Marshall had only been playing full contact rugby league for two years before earning his Wests Tigers debut in 2003. He had tongues wagging when he burst onto the NRL stage and started mesmerising defences with a step never seen before in the NRL before and evasiveness few prior to him possessed.

As a 20-year-old in 2005 he sparked the most improbable run to a premiership during the NRL era, with the Tigers winning the competition despite being rated as a $150 shot mid-way through the season.

In the seasons that followed his injury worries with his shoulders meant it cut his season short for three consecutive years. Come 2009 he was a dominant force once again when he became arguably the best five-eighth in the competition for the next four seasons compiling 117 try assists, 144 linebreak assists and 48 linebreaks across 99 games.

After a brief stint away from the NRL he showed he still had more to give by finishing second in the 2015 Dally M Medal count when most thought he was past his best.

A 2008 World Cup winner, 2010 Four Nations champion in an outstanding career for New Zealand he will leave the game as perhaps the most decorated Polynesian playmaker in history.

8 - BRAD FITTLER

Speed, power, courage, durability and possibly the nastiest left-foot step the game has ever seen, Brad Fittler was a colossal figure during the 1990s and lead the Roosters to nine straight finals series, four grand finals in five years and a premiership in 2002.

He broke into the game so young that he played with Chris Mortimer who played in the 1979 grand final and in his last ever game played against Johnathan Thurston who is retiring 38 years later.

For a man who retired at 32 he put together an unbelievable career with arguably a few years left on the table. In an era which featured a glut of powerful, running five-eighths he was perhaps the most brilliant on his day.

Whether it was at lock, centre or five-eighth, Fittler was always in the thick of it on field and transformed himself into one of the finest captains of the modern era.

‘Freddy’ finished his career as the most capped NSW player of all time and at the time the second most capped Kangaroo (Lockyer and Civoniceva eventually overtook him) behind Mal Meninga with a total of 40 appearances for his country.

He is also just one of six players to play at least 250 club games, 30 internationals, win a premiership and score 100 tries in the history of rugby league in Australia.

7 - JOHNATHAN THURSTON

He might be the best individual signing made in the NRL era. Without the signature of Thurston the Cowboys may still be struggling for relevancy 23 years into their history.

His arrival in North Queensland in 2005 resulted in their maiden but ultimately

unsuccessful grand final appearance.

After a few down years he was able to turn them into a perennial finals team with some help from a fit-again Matt Bowen. Once billed as ‘too small’ for the NRL he proved almost everyone wrong, embarrassing opposition defences on a weekly basis with the best dummy in the game to go with his elite running ability.

Throw in a tenacious desire to compete on every play and you have a legendary figure of the modern era.

As he aged his already great passing game went to another level as he engineered six straight finals appearances for the Cowboys. His 2015 season is one of the greatest ever by a halfback, winning countless games when trailing with 15 minutes left and slotting the field goal that gave the Cowboys their first-ever premiership. He also registered a career high 37 try assists in that season to go with 36 linebreak assists.

Had it not been for shoulder surgery in 2017 he most likely would have recorded at least 20 line break and try assists for 10 and eight consecutive seasons respectively.

All of these incredible achievements to go along with 11 series wins for Queensland and a 92.1 winning percentage in 38 Tests for the Kangaroos.

6 - COOPER CRONK

Phil Gould stated in his 2006 season preview of the Storm they would struggle in

the wake of Matt Orford’s exit because you can’t manufacture a halfback. Thankfully Craig Bellamy didn’t agree and more importantly neither did Cooper Cronk.

History will remind us that while Slater, Smith and Inglis were already stars they couldn’t get past the second week of the finals and it was the emergence of Cronk that catapulted an already emerging force in the game into a juggernaut.

Watching Smith hunt for opportunities around the ruck while Cronk chimed in to put Slater in to space almost became metronomic as they became the best attacking trio in the history of the sport, as they would all go on to boast a winning percentage of better than 70.

Cronk became an extension of coach Bellamy on the field and along with Smith they would

execute Melbourne’s attacking shapes and set plays with military precision.

Cronk became a model of consistency whether it was finding space for his litany of weapons in the backline or building pressure with his sublime short-kicking game.

Cronk also has his fingerprints on a multitude of game winning moments, whether it was field goals in the dying moments for Queensland or his suffocation of Canterbury in the 2012 NRL grand final.

While he didn’t win man of the match, his performance against Parramatta in the 2009 decider was also outstanding.

Cronk’s move to the Sydney Roosters in 2018 added more silverware to his already bulging trophy cabinet, leading the Chooks to back-to-back premierships which many believed was an impossible feat.

Cronk taking the field in the 2018 decider with a broken scapula will be remembered forever as well as being the first halfback since Peter Sterling 36 years before him to win three consecutive grand finals.

A winner of four premierships, six total grand finals, two Dally M Medals, a Clive Churchill Medal, 2016 Golden Boot winner and a five-time Dally M Halfback Of The Year adds to a healthy resume that also includes 38 Tests and 22 Origins.

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5 - BILLY SLATER

Legendary commentator Ray Warren once described him as the ‘busiest’ player he had seen and you’d be wise to agree with Rabs.

Slater took Darren Lockyer’s yardstick at the position in the modern game and put it in an unworldly stratosphere that might not ever be topped.

He is without doubt the greatest fullback of the last 20 years and possibly of all time.

Considering at one time he was a trackwork jockey for Gai Waterhouse as a teenager, the NRL should feel blessed Slater found his way to the top of the mountain.

His dedication to his craft is exemplified by the legendary story of how he drove 20 hours for a reserve grade trial where he scored five tries.

There wasn’t a square metre of turf on any ground in the NRL that Slater wasn’t capable of appearing on in an instant to finish off a great Melbourne try and there’s never been a broken defensive line on a kick-chase he hasn’t made pay a dear price.

He sits second on the all-time try scorer’s list with 190 to go with his two premierships (two other stripped for salary cap rorts).

He has won a staggering 70 per cent of his club games for the Storm to go along with not being in a losing Australian team since 2010.

On top of that ridiculous level of excellence he was a crucial cog in eight series wins for Queensland. An attacking master and one of the great generals of a defensive line during a dominant Melbourne, Queensland and Australia career.

We will never see another Billy Slater again. Alongside Greg Inglis and Brad Fittler he is a member of the illustrious club of 250 club games, 30 internationals, 100 tries and a premiership.

4 - GREG INGLIS

Perhaps the most unstoppable player of the first 20 years in the NRL, Greg Inglis has become one of the best fullbacks in history and arguably the greatest centre of the modern era.

Watching Inglis at full flight is simultaneously the most scary and beautiful thing on a rugby league field. He was almost part racehorse part footballer.

As a wiry 18-year-old he showed enormous promise, and by age 20 he was terrorising teams at every level looking like a champion 200m sprinter once he got in the clear.

No one was more heavily marked by an opposition defence during his mercurial rise, just ask any number of NSW coaches and players.

Before Inglis was 23 years old he had won the Golden Boot, Clive Churchill Medal, Wally Lewis Medal, Harry Sunderland Medal, Dally M Rep Player Of The Year (2008, 2009) and Dally M Five Eighth Of The Year.

In that time he also amassed 15 Tests and 10 Origins for Queensland.

League fans may never see a more accomplished player at that age again.

If Thurston wasn’t the best individual signing of the NRL era, it has to be Inglis moving to South Sydney. He immediately lifted the profile of the club and made them a contender, which resulted in the Rabbitohs winning their first premiership in 43 years in 2014.

Alongside Slater and Fittler he is a member of the illustrious club of 250 club games, 30 internationals, 100 tries and a premiership.

3 - DARREN LOCKYER

He was perhaps the only player along with Greg Inglis to be recognised as the best player in the world at two different positions.

Lockyer has the accolades to back it up after becoming the only player in history to win the Golden Boot award in two different positions (fullback and five-eighth).

He also won premierships in both positions and dominated for Australia in both the five-eighth and fullback jersey. Before Billy Slater it was Darren Lockyer who changed the fullback position.

Once Lockyer hit his prime in 1998 he was almost impossible to stop with his speed rivalling anyone in the game at the time and his ball-playing ability matching any top line playmaker.

It didn’t matter what level he played at he almost always came up with the right play when his team needed it the most.



So many of Brisbane’s greatest moments have his fingerprints all over them with late-game field goals and countless match winning decisions to put teammates over for a try.

His performance in the 2003 Ashes against Great Britain with more than 30 players ruled out through injury is the stuff of legend, breaking British hearts in three consecutive Tests.

He also lead Queensland with distinction through a dominant era and had the most decorated international career of any player during the first 20 years of the NRL retiring as the Kangaroos’ most capped player (59 Tests) and highest tryscorer (35).

2 - ANDREW JOHNS

To watch Joey dissect an opposition when he was in the mood was an out-of-body experience. Perhaps no man in the NRL era could lift the ceiling of a representative team single-handedly like Johns did in 2005 when he was recalled for game two of the State of Origin series.

Johns transcended the halfback position and as a result he was named at halfback in the Team Of The Century and is the game’s eighth Immortal.

He posed a threat every time he had the ball whether it was with his sublime kicking, deft passing or powerful running game.

Arguably no player has played under more pressure and scrutiny in the modern era than Johns and he did so with aplomb. Playing as the game’s best player during his career in the footy-crazed town of Newcastle is a pressure only the truly elite athletes in any sport can comprehend.

He provided a catalogue of great moments for Knights fans ranging from sideline conversions to win games, engineering late comebacks, blowing teams off the park in a 20-minute period and having the guts to go down the blindside when the field goal seemed the only logical play.

He was by far the best defender to play the position in the modern era, regularly belting opposition forwards who dared to target him.

In his prime years of 1998-2002 he was undoubtedly the best player in the sport and made others rise to his greatness for team success.

This was best illustrated when he won the 2001 premiership with an unheralded prop rotation of Josh Perry, Matt Parsons, Paul Marquet, Glenn Grief and Clinton O’Brien.

1 - CAMERON SMITH

Matthew Johns has said countless times Cameron Smith is the best ‘big game’ player of all time and it’s hard to mount a case against that statement.

He is simply the best player of the first 20 years of the NRL, boasting the rugby league IQ of a savant and durability unmatched by anyone in the sport.

Smith has played more club games than any man by a considerable margin and played his

400th in 2019. He has appeared in 56 Tests for Australia (second all time) and has 42 Origins for Queensland which culminated in 11 series wins.

Every commentator has joked about Smith’s physique or lack-there-of but for all the skinfold tests and measurements of weight training, Smith has proven the most important muscle required to play in the NRL is the brain.

No player has been able to dictate the tempo of a game from dummy half like Smith has and maybe no one will ever match his consistency to winning football.

No hooker has had a better kicking game or combined better with their halfback, five-eighth and fullback and no other player can come close to the impact he has had on winning.

While there has been many great attacking tandems, Smith, along with Billy Slater and Cooper Cronk became the most dangerous spine in 110 years of rugby league in Australia. At his best the Melbourne Storm were almost metronomic in their performances.

A winner of two World Cups, two premierships, four grand finals, two Dally M Medals, seven Dally M hooker of the year awards, a four-time representative player of the year, four-time Wally Lewis Medal winner, three-time captain of the year, a RLIF player of the year award as well as a Harry Sunderland medal winner. The most decorated player in the history of the game.

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I think it's definitely up for discussion.

It's just my opinion, don't care either way really.

Webcke was a great prop no doubt, but his notoriety comes from being a prominent Bronco who has gone on to a successful media career.

Scott has a more understated personality and plied his trade away further from intense media scrutiny and plaudits.
 

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Inglis higher than Slater & Thurston? Lay off the hard drugs.

Fittler was a much better player as well but the above two also played the entirety of their careers in the NRL.

JT and Slater were a minimum 8/10 every week for 15 odd years. GI often didn't even fire up until Origin period and his peak was way shorter.
 
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I’d have Inglis where he is in that list above the others. The bloke was just devastating. I’d be more fearful of him in the opposition team than all the others below him. and maybe even Lockyer.

Ben Kennedy is a great shout. Can be forgotten about in greatest player discussions a bit.

I’d like to have Benji Marshall higher than 9 but those ahead of him make it tough.

I’d have Brad Fittler in at 5 above Thurston Cronk and Slater. All were great players, with the memories of the last 3 fresher in the mind. But for me Fittler was an absolute machine who could play centre, five eight and lock with ease. Was absolutely devastating either on his own or with team work. I’d have them all about even in a teamwork scenario (probably Thurston first) but Fittler just ahead of Slater as an individual game breaker.

I wouldn’t have Sonny Bill in this list, great player that he is but hasn’t played league over a sustained period of time since he left the Dogs acrimoniously. I’d have Steve Menzies in instead of Williams
 
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who would you rather on your team- cameron smith or JT....
f**kING jt all day everyday, what a dogshit poll
 

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who would you rather on your team- cameron smith or JT....
f**kING jt all day everyday, what a dogshit poll
Smith without a doubt. Thurston was a good player like many many before him. Thurston was the most over rated player I've seen play the game.
 

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