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Anthony Siebold is more concerned about vaccinating NRL players than Broncos performances

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Getting flogged by 50 points regularly isn’t setting them up for success. If it doesn’t turn around soon those young guns will get sick of losing and look elsewhere for the chance to be competitive and guys like Fifita, Haas etc will have clubs lining up to get them.

if those guys look for the easy option, then they don't have the fortitude to win a premiership.

if anyone took anything out of the the jordan's last dance doco apart from being star struck, it's to f**king work your arse off and improve. his teams got beat easy in the early years and he didn't win his first title until he was 28 - 8th or 9th season in the league.

they control their performance, and they control their response.

it's not like the guy they replaced him with has done too much better in the last two weeks - 5 tries to 2; and 4 tries to 1 in consecutive weeks. still comprehensive beatings.
 
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Some of it the problems though are recruitment and retention. For example how much money would Payne Haas, Joe Ofahengaue, Matthew Lodge and Tevita Pangi Jr be on? Granted all 4 are talented players, but only 2 of them can start in the front row each week, so if you are playing all 4 starter's money, it means you have less salary cap space to spend on other positions in the squad.
 

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if those guys look for the easy option, then they don't have the fortitude to win a premiership.

if anyone took anything out of the the jordan's last dance doco apart from being star struck, it's to f**king work your arse off and improve. his teams got beat easy in the early years and he didn't win his first title until he was 28 - 8th or 9th season in the league.

they control their performance, and they control their response.

it's not like the guy they replaced him with has done too much better in the last two weeks - 5 tries to 2; and 4 tries to 1 in consecutive weeks. still comprehensive beatings.

Cant see Milford starting up a breakfast club anytime soon. Jordans bulls started competing in the playoffs when he got better teammates. He didnt have same teammates for his first title run that he had in his rookie year, not even close and Jordan himself was exceptional from day one, he certainly worked hard and improved greatly over his career but his winning didnt start until the quality of his teammates improved.

I just think Seibold went all in on these young guys rather than taking the time to manage it properly. Now he is bringing in experience mid season. He has shuffled Milford around more than once, he has moved on guys midseason both the last two season and released guys early. it just doesnt feel like he has a plan other than to clear out the squad and hope like hell the next batch of kids kicks on.
 
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I am beginning to sense a subtle recurring theme in your oeuvre
Donkeys fans were up themselves and smartarses to others throughout the 90s and 00s, especially towards those who supported clubs that were down the ladder. The bully boys of the 90s and 00s have become the whipping boys of the 10s and 20s.

It's funny because all of the Donkeys' problems are self-induced. There's no reason for them to be so far down the ladder. They have 2.500,000 RL mad people all to themselves with talented juniors who'll play for unders just to be with the Donks, but they still cannot use this to their advantage. More 7 day turnarounds and favourable decisions from refs than any other club. How the club has sunk so far is a mystery and shows that having too much power can be a bad thing, as it makes people complacent. Nothing will change at your club until you get rid of the head office and replace it with people who are willing to go out into the field and work for their money, like every other club.
 

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Some of it the problems though are recruitment and retention. For example how much money would Payne Haas, Joe Ofahengaue, Matthew Lodge and Tevita Pangi Jr be on? Granted all 4 are talented players, but only 2 of them can start in the front row each week, so if you are playing all 4 starter's money, it means you have less salary cap space to spend on other positions in the squad.
I truly believe this is the root of their current issues, when developing their roster it appears they have neglected balance. You do not win premierships without it.

Some good young, destructive forwards, SFA elsewhere in their squad. I mean Darius is still on their books & starting each week.
 

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If I'm a Broncos supporter (which I most definitely am not) I'd be wanting ti see the following changes tonthe squad.
Milford to fullback, Dearden/Croft halves combo, Isaako/Oates on the wings, Staggs/Kahu centres. Forward pack doesn't need any changes, add a zippy utility in the Drinkwater mold to the bench and then tweak the game plan to give Milford more ball in the latter stages of each half, give him free rein to play ad lib footy. The halves just need to focus on game management and better last tackle options - their forwards are good enough to make decent metres and get in good field position.
 
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Donkeys fans were up themselves and smartarses to others throughout the 90s and 00s, especially towards those who supported clubs that were down the ladder. The bully boys of the 90s and 00s have become the whipping boys of the 10s and 20s.

It's funny because all of the Donkeys' problems are self-induced. There's no reason for them to be so far down the ladder. They have 2.500,000 RL mad people all to themselves with talented juniors who'll play for unders just to be with the Donks, but they still cannot use this to their advantage. More 7 day turnarounds and favourable decisions from refs than any other club. How the club has sunk so far is a mystery and shows that having too much power can be a bad thing, as it makes people complacent. Nothing will change at your club until you get rid of the head office and replace it with people who are willing to go out into the field and work for their money, like every other club.

Brisbane were just replaced by the Melbourne Storm. Simple as that. They represent everything the Broncos used to be (minus the mass volume of moronic fans).

How ironic is it that the 4 best players of the last 10-15 years (who happened to be Queenslanders wearing 1, 6, 7, and 9) were unwanted by the Broncos as teens, and then turned their back on them when the Broncos wanted them. All while winning premierships for the Storm and Cowboys.
 

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Well as low as we've sunk, as much as we've struggled, as toothless and decrepit and gammy as we've proven to be for the best part of two decades, we STILL live rent free in the heads of a large percentage of the RL fan base. Always on your minds, always on your lips, always on your TV.

We will happily continue to provide the lion's share of the TV revenue money to continue to uphold the viability of whatever little club you happen to support. For no thanks other than your scorn and ridicule and contempt.

Because no one really loves their god. How can you love what you fear? We all want to rebel against our betters. It's what drives us on. The Broncos at their worst are STILL the benchmark you all secretly long to reach, the high tide mark in all the world's rugby clubs. The blueprint, the archetype. In the dark and silence of the night, it keeps all of you singing "we're gonna make it this time, we're gonna take it hooommmee..."
 

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Brisbane were just replaced by the Melbourne Storm. Simple as that. They represent everything the Broncos used to be (minus the mass volume of moronic fans).

How ironic is it that the 4 best players of the last 10-15 years (who happened to be Queenslanders wearing 1, 6, 7, and 9) were unwanted by the Broncos as teens, and then turned their back on them when the Broncos wanted them. All while winning premierships for the Storm and Cowboys.

as kids these blokes only ever wanted to be broncos. from the johns interview with cam smith on mattys podcast, it's clear that the rejection drove all of them to be what they became.

They all told the broncos to f**k off when the they came sniffing around when they were established players.
 
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It can't be coincidence that there's all this chatter about the NRL pursuing a 2nd Brisbane team. V'landys future proofing the comp? I hope he does and there is Brisbane XXXX's. And named Brisbane...so they're in the hearts and minds of everyone.
 

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If I'm a Broncos supporter (which I most definitely am not) I'd be wanting ti see the following changes tonthe squad.
Milford to fullback, Dearden/Croft halves combo, Isaako/Oates on the wings, Staggs/Kahu centres. Forward pack doesn't need any changes, add a zippy utility in the Drinkwater mold to the bench and then tweak the game plan to give Milford more ball in the latter stages of each half, give him free rein to play ad lib footy. The halves just need to focus on game management and better last tackle options - their forwards are good enough to make decent metres and get in good field position.

milford definitely in midfield. it's where he carved up for canberra, and why the donkeys brought him in. he'll be even more damaging with tired middles and repeat sets.
 

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Milford needs to go, he iis not near a consistent NRL level player.
for the sake of those good young players who have a bucket load of potential Seibold needs to be punted ASAP as he will not make any player at the Broncos a better player
 

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Moral of story, dont waste big % of your cap on your pack!
Melbourne know this, look at the quality forwards they have let go over the years.
 

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