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Is he good friends with the clintons and their pizza buddies?
I don't know. Haven't heard that but it's clear he's an absolute freak. Hard to believe you could get two more flawed people to contest an election to lead the most powerful nation on Earth. Although the 2016 election was right up there.
 

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More to the point, what is conservative politics?
It means slowing social change to a slow creep, forcing ideas to prove themselves before they are taken to their absurd ends. Everyone knows modern conservatives are more progressive than progressives of 100 years ago. It's about the rate of change.
Germany and UK are governedby conservatives yet are progressive compared to AU and USA. USA are moving towards evangelactivism. Bat shit crazy they are.
Globalisation and technology have created a genuine two speed economy in the US, with parallel societies. The people being left behind are clinging to all they have left (identity), and using politics to do it. The elites are using media and technology to slowly crush them and their identity. Nowhere else really has these problems. We have neither the media nor tech industries that enable this sort of schism. We don't have an urban coastal elite and a towny underclass because nearly everyone lives in cities on the coast.
 
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It means slowing social change to a slow creep, forcing ideas to prove themselves before they are taken to their absurd ends. Everyone knows modern conservatives are more progressive than progressives of 100 years ago. It's about the rate of change.

Globalisation and technology have created a genuine two speed economy in the US, with parallel societies. The people being left behind are clinging to all they have left (identity), and using politics to do it. The elites are using media and technology to slowly crush them and their identity. Nowhere else really has these problems. We have neither the media nor tech industries that enable this sort of schism. We don't have an urban coastal elite and a towny underclass because nearly everyone lives in cities on the coast.
Do you sometimes wake up in the dead of night and think about sticking crayons up your nose?
 

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It means slowing social change to a slow creep, forcing ideas to prove themselves before they are taken to their absurd ends. Everyone knows modern conservatives are more progressive than progressives of 100 years ago. It's about the rate of change.

Globalisation and technology have created a genuine two speed economy in the US, with parallel societies. The people being left behind are clinging to all they have left (identity), and using politics to do it. The elites are using media and technology to slowly crush them and their identity. Nowhere else really has these problems. We have neither the media nor tech industries that enable this sort of schism. We don't have an urban coastal elite and a towny underclass because nearly everyone lives in cities on the coast.

Sure, I think everyone knows what conservatism is and those who choose to drop anchor and resist change do so for their own reasons. The two conservative governments that I pointed out UK and Germany embrace climate change for what it is. Their attitude towards the science is no different to their attitude towards breast cancer or the hole in the ozone.

The nuance here is that both these countries have minimal mining interests domestically. Conversely AU and USA do have significant domestic mining activity. So our respective conservatism (with respect to climate change) is based on the sustainability of the fossil fuel industry. So much so that they seed falsehoods and mock the very science that they would normally accept without question. Fibs based on self interests.

So conservatives cling to their antiquated ways through BS delay and diversion. Rarely is progress defeated and never implemented, it’s an inevitable fact of life for the conservatives that they eventually roll over. Hence why they are a bunch of negative Nancy’s perpetually pining for past, never happy with the present.
 

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Savage takedown of NZ Nationals MP that lost his 10 year seat after running a anti-lockdown Jacinta Opposite Day campaign.

 

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You do realise that the two PMs before Ahern (Labor) were from the Nationals ? So ....

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Some respect. The poor little guy fell down a stair case and died.
 

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Sure, I think everyone knows what conservatism is and those who choose to drop anchor and resist change do so for their own reasons. The two conservative governments that I pointed out UK and Germany embrace climate change for what it is. Their attitude towards the science is no different to their attitude towards breast cancer or the hole in the ozone.

The nuance here is that both these countries have minimal mining interests domestically. Conversely AU and USA do have significant domestic mining activity. So our respective conservatism (with respect to climate change) is based on the sustainability of the fossil fuel industry. So much so that they seed falsehoods and mock the very science that they would normally accept without question. Fibs based on self interests.

So conservatives cling to their antiquated ways through BS delay and diversion. Rarely is progress defeated and never implemented, it’s an inevitable fact of life for the conservatives that they eventually roll over. Hence why they are a bunch of negative Nancy’s perpetually pining for past, never happy with the present.
I put it to you that progressives are never happy with the present either.
 

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I put it to you that progressives are never happy with the present either.

Nah centrists / social democrats / centre left are realistic and constantly denounce progressive excesses. Give us empathy, equality, fairness and we're happy as pigs in shit.
 

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Nah centrists / social democrats / centre left are realistic and constantly denounce progressive excesses. Give us empathy, equality, fairness and we're happy as pigs in shit.
Centre right want all that shit as well. They just have different definitions of equality and fairness.
 
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Don't die knowing that you all allowed a lie .... :eek:


Let's see what we've learned over the last little bit...

Clintons - Epstein pals;
Bidens - Well, nothing, yet...but that laptop...
Royals - Epstein and Saville pals...
Keating's Daughter - Pals with Epstein, Maxwell and Prince Andrew...

And that's without NXIVM, Jean Luc Brunel, Les Wexner, the Clinton Foundation (which is kinda like the Biden Crime Family...), the Weiner laptop...

...but it's all a conspiracy theory...
 

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Let's see what we've learned over the last little bit...

Clintons - Epstein pals;
Bidens - Well, nothing, yet...but that laptop...
Royals - Epstein and Saville pals...
Keating's Daughter - Pals with Epstein, Maxwell and Prince Andrew...

And that's without NXIVM, Jean Luc Brunel, Les Wexner, the Clinton Foundation (which is kinda like the Biden Crime Family...), the Weiner laptop...

...but it's all a conspiracy theory...

I have no doubt that there is dodgy shit out there, but God delivered Trump to something something Pedophiles ? A modern day con-job of biblelike proportions.

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Nah centrists / social democrats / centre left are realistic and constantly denounce progressive excesses. Give us empathy, equality, fairness and we're happy as pigs in shit.
But only if we don’t have to sacrifice anything.
 

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Let's see what we've learned over the last little bit...

Clintons - Epstein pals;
Bidens - Well, nothing, yet...but that laptop...
Royals - Epstein and Saville pals...
Keating's Daughter - Pals with Epstein, Maxwell and Prince Andrew...

And that's without NXIVM, Jean Luc Brunel, Les Wexner, the Clinton Foundation (which is kinda like the Biden Crime Family...), the Weiner laptop...

...but it's all a conspiracy theory...
Don’t get me started on Les Wexner!
 

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