OT: Current Affairs and Politics

[Bandwagon]

Again just opinions. No evidence of anything.

Bottom line he hasn't made a bundle off of the Presidency even in the opinion of his haters.

So you posted a link to a story to support your dribble, in which the bits you agree with are fact, and the bits you disagree with are opinion.

Sounds a completely reasonable position to take.

 

[Gary Gutful]

OK what about this then kiddos? Who would of thunk it?

http://annavonreitz.com/omg.pdf

OMGBy Anna Von ReitzJust in.In 2008, Dr. Anthony Fauci co-authored a paper about the Spanish Flu Epidemic that rates as the most devastating modern pandemic. It swept the entire planet in the wake of the First World War and caused millions of deaths.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2599911/

So in studying this major and actual pandemic, what did Dr. Fauci and his colleagues find? They discovered that most of the victims of the Spanish Flu didn't die from the Spanish Flu.

They died from bacterial pneumonia. And the bacterial pneumonia was caused by.... wait for it, wait for it.... wearing masks.

The intention then, as now, was to halt the spread of the disease by wearing masks, but what actually happened was that an "unobserved" pandemic of bacterial pneumonia was unwittingly created instead.

And Dr. Anthony Fauci knows this, because he wrote about it in 2008.

Think about that the next time you see an overflowing garbage container filled with used masks --- or find a used mask jammed into your grocery cart or just lying like a dirty diaper in the middle of a parking lot.

A huge public health hazard and the threat of a non-viral pandemic of bacterial pneumonia is being fostered by the use of masks and Dr. Anthony Fauci knows it.

He has known that since at least 2008. And yet, he sits there mum as a stump. Ever heard of negligent homicide? We need to put an end to this situation and an end to any authority vested in those private individuals promoting it. Now.
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So here is the link that sites the report. Also in the article above -

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2599911/

Is this your idea of ‘real evidence’?

Can you point to the bit in the paper that refers to mask usage being responsible for the bacterial pneumonia? I bet you can’t because the word ‘mask’ doesn’t even appear in the paper!

The article largely talks about how bacterial pneumonia was a result of damage caused by the virus and the fact that no antibiotics existed at the time. Remember, the virus occurred in 1918 and penicillin wasn’t discovered until 1928.

No offence, but this is the problem nowadays. Dumb shits who don’t now how to research or interpret reports will believe any old rubbish that someone with an agenda posts online and then it becomes viral (no pun intended). How many of the idiots sharing this crap actually read and understood the report?

Bravo @TheRam!

 

[Bandwagon]

OK what about this then kiddos? Who would of thunk it?

http://annavonreitz.com/omg.pdf

OMGBy Anna Von ReitzJust in.In 2008, Dr. Anthony Fauci co-authored a paper about the Spanish Flu Epidemic that rates as the most devastating modern pandemic. It swept the entire planet in the wake of the First World War and caused millions of deaths.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2599911/

So in studying this major and actual pandemic, what did Dr. Fauci and his colleagues find? They discovered that most of the victims of the Spanish Flu didn't die from the Spanish Flu.

They died from bacterial pneumonia. And the bacterial pneumonia was caused by.... wait for it, wait for it.... wearing masks.

The intention then, as now, was to halt the spread of the disease by wearing masks, but what actually happened was that an "unobserved" pandemic of bacterial pneumonia was unwittingly created instead.

And Dr. Anthony Fauci knows this, because he wrote about it in 2008.

Think about that the next time you see an overflowing garbage container filled with used masks --- or find a used mask jammed into your grocery cart or just lying like a dirty diaper in the middle of a parking lot.

A huge public health hazard and the threat of a non-viral pandemic of bacterial pneumonia is being fostered by the use of masks and Dr. Anthony Fauci knows it.

He has known that since at least 2008. And yet, he sits there mum as a stump. Ever heard of negligent homicide? We need to put an end to this situation and an end to any authority vested in those private individuals promoting it. Now.
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So here is the link that sites the report. Also in the article above -

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2599911/

*Goes to link provided*.

Control F *mask*

zero matches

Odd

*googles* -Think about that the next time you see an overflowing garbage container filled with used masks --- or find a used mask jammed into your grocery cart or just lying like a dirty diaper in the middle of a parking lot.

*Finds quite a few blogs posting this exact phrase as if it's original content.

*wonders how a study with no mention of masks, is referenced as having conclusively shown wearing masks caused secondary infections*

.

 

[Bandwagon]

Is this your idea of ‘real evidence’?

Can you point to the bit in the paper that refers to mask usage being responsible for the bacterial pneumonia? I bet you can’t because the word ‘mask’ doesn’t even appear in the paper!

The article largely talks about how bacterial pneumonia was a result of damage caused by the virus and the fact that no antibiotics existed at the time. Remember, the virus occurred in 1918 and penicillin wasn’t discovered until 1928.

No offence, but this is the problem nowadays. Dumb shits who don’t now how to research or interpret reports will believe any old rubbish that someone with an agenda posts online and then it becomes viral (no pun intended). How many of the idiots sharing this crap actually read and understood the report?

Bravo @TheRam!

f**king Gary, dirty leftist scum!

 

[Hollywood Jesus]

That may well be how you think of them, but that isn't the voting bloc that these pollsters are using in their methodology. Sure, you'd think if a little "shy", they might respond as undecided, and I'd buy that, but undecideds aint a big feature of polling right now, least far less than they were in 2016.

And I guess that's problem for the Donald right now as far as polling goes, with few undecideds there's f**k all room for movement in either camp, and we haven't and wont see the shift in support to Trump that happened in the fortnight leading into the election in 2016.

Basically for these "quiet Trumpers" to turn the election, they would need to move the dial 5 - 6 points in a number of races, I just don't see that happening. If it does, we may as well throw polling out the window, because it's then proving to be worthless.

But yeah, we'll begin to find out in a coupla days, though it's likely gonna be a week or so if the results are remotely close, it'll take a landslide either way to know the result Wednesday morning.

Well, I might as well go out on a limb and make some predictions...

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-elections/president-results?icid=election_nav

Looking at the state results so far:

• Arizona, North Carolina, Texas, Florida - All stay with Trump;
• Minnesota is a chance for Trump;
• Nevada is a chance for Trump;
  
• Pennsylvania is a good chance for Biden.

Based on the fact that Democrats usually vote 2:1 in pre-polling. Now, I know some more Republicans would be voting early because of COVID but so would more Democrats, so I don't see a swing to Republicans in early voting because of that.

That gives me Trump's worst result at 286 (losing Pennsylvania) and his best (while still losing Pennsylvania) at 302.

 

[Hollywood Jesus]

I have no idea either way. I'll miss him in some sort of weird masochistic way if he loses. Must be the part of me that likes reality TV. Or train wrecks. The unraveling of society live, starring Mr Magoo.

This is why a morbid part of me wants Trump to lose. Handing over the US to the left will see society fall apart and, to be honest, a part of me would find that very interesting in, as I said, a morbid kind of way...

 

[Hollywood Jesus]

You have well and truly soiled yourself over this one.

I just said that Trump and Biden are dodgy mate. Why do you keep chasing me on Trump?

I don’t need to provide you with reams of evidence regarding Trump. There is lots of shit online about how he wanted to hire his daughter as VP, his pretend Christianity, his constant lying (the best one recently was how he told Michigan that he was their ‘man of the year’ despite there being no such award) and then there is this uncomfortable ‘blurring of the boundaries’ between Trump the businessman and Trump the President. His businesses have undoubtedly benefitted in ways they didn’t previously.

Biden is dodgy too. He has bullshitted people on a few key policy items. His work on the Bankruptcy Bill smacked of dodgy favours from big banks. He has been bankrolled in the past by healthcare lobbyists and he arsef**ked the mining sector over climate policy. And there is definitely some dodgy stuff going on with Hunter and the laptop.

You assume that anyone who doesn’t like Trump must be a ‘lefty’. That’s stupid mate and makes no f**ken sense. Have a look at all of the people in his party that are unhappy with him. Are they lefties as well?

There's a big difference between Trump's "dodginess" and Biden's.

Sure, Trump's businesses have benefited a bit but that is nothing compared to Biden, who has been selling out his country to work with organised crime all over the world for decades, using his junkie son as a bagman.

There is a massive, massive difference between the two. Hell, Biden is on video admitting he used his position as VP to withhold foreign aid money to Ukraine unless they fired the prosecutor that was investigating his son's company for corruption. Shit, Trump has done nothing like that. Nothing. There is a massive difference between the two.

 

[hindy111]

There's a big difference between Trump's "dodginess" and Biden's.

Sure, Trump's businesses have benefited a bit but that is nothing compared to Biden, who has been selling out his country to work with organised crime all over the world for decades, using his junkie son as a bagman.

There is a massive, massive difference between the two. Hell, Biden is on video admitting he used his position as VP to withhold foreign aid money to Ukraine unless they fired the prosecutor that was investigating his son's company for corruption. Shit, Trump has done nothing like that. Nothing. There is a massive difference between the two.

Biden seems a bit of a slime. He just says what he think will be popular which makes him come across as fake( Probably fools people like Gronk). And crawls up the right peoples bum cracks.(Hopefully not Gronks) I don't see a leader or a guy with ideas. I see a boring old man who wants to tick a box and say he was President.

 

[Hollywood Jesus]

I see a guy who wants to control the justice system so his junkie bagman son can rake in squillions while he is President (and after he gives it up for Kamala).

 

[Twizzle]

I see a guy who wants to control the justice system

I wonder who he got that idea from

 

[Gronk]

This is why a morbid part of me wants Trump to lose. Handing over the US to the left will see society fall apart and, to be honest, a part of me would find that very interesting in, as I said, a morbid kind of way...

There's a big difference between Trump's "dodginess" and Biden's.

Sure, Trump's businesses have benefited a bit but that is nothing compared to Biden, who has been selling out his country to work with organised crime all over the world for decades, using his junkie son as a bagman.

There is a massive, massive difference between the two. Hell, Biden is on video admitting he used his position as VP to withhold foreign aid money to Ukraine unless they fired the prosecutor that was investigating his son's company for corruption. Shit, Trump has done nothing like that. Nothing. There is a massive difference between the two.

What’s fascinating to me is how we all see politics through a different lense.

We will dismiss or accept the failings of the guy we support and multiply and exaggerate the failings of the other guy.

Watching the telly pro Trump supporters are voting for him because liberty and the constitution.

Biden supporters claim that Trump is pulling the fabric of the country apart.

What’s most concerning is that both sides concede that there will be civil unrest in the coming weeks.

 

[Bandwagon]

Well, I might as well go out on a limb and make some predictions...

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-elections/president-results?icid=election_nav

Looking at the state results so far:

• Arizona, North Carolina, Texas, Florida - All stay with Trump;
• Minnesota is a chance for Trump;
• Nevada is a chance for Trump;
  
• Pennsylvania is a good chance for Biden.

Based on the fact that Democrats usually vote 2:1 in pre-polling. Now, I know some more Republicans would be voting early because of COVID but so would more Democrats, so I don't see a swing to Republicans in early voting because of that.

That gives me Trump's worst result at 286 (losing Pennsylvania) and his best (while still losing Pennsylvania) at 302.

If you look at polling in those battlegrounds now, and adjust for the error in 2016, you get the following ( as per RCP's numbers ) State - Current polling +/- 2016 error = result

Arizona - Biden +0.9 - Trump -0.5 = Biden +1.4
Nth Carolina - Trump +0.6 - Trump +2.7 =Trump +3.3
Texas - Trump +1.2 - Trump -3 = Biden + 1.8
Florida - Biden 1.4 - Trump +1 = Biden +0.4
Minnesota - Biden + 4.3 - Clinton won +1.5 and I can't find the polling average, but believe it was like +6 or 7 Clinton, so enough to = Trump + 1.7+
Nevada Biden 3.6 - Trump -3.2 = Biden 6.8
Pennsylvania - Biden 2.9 - Trump + 2.6 = Biden +0.3

So quite the mixed bag, the point though being that errors can and do flow both ways, and all these states remain in play.

Of them all, If i had to pick one state for each of Biden and Trump and put money down, it'd be Minnesota for Biden, and Texas for Trump.

I think the biggest problem for Trump is there isn't a path without Pennsylvania, which I note the point of your post was to map out one without it. I just don't think it happens, but i do think polling has tightened enough there for Trump to have a better shot at it than it looked as little as a week ago

 

[Gary Gutful]

There's a big difference between Trump's "dodginess" and Biden's.

Sure, Trump's businesses have benefited a bit but that is nothing compared to Biden, who has been selling out his country to work with organised crime all over the world for decades, using his junkie son as a bagman.

There is a massive, massive difference between the two. Hell, Biden is on video admitting he used his position as VP to withhold foreign aid money to Ukraine unless they fired the prosecutor that was investigating his son's company for corruption. Shit, Trump has done nothing like that. Nothing. There is a massive difference between the two.

For the same reason that @TheRam made a dick of himself earlier, I don’t believe all of the bullshit that’s flying about at the moment regarding Biden. He’s dodgy though. Make no mistake.

Don’t go too hard too early or you’ll have to wind it back like you did with the Pizza Parlour shit.

“Nah, nah I was just shit stirring mate...”

 

[Bandwagon]

There's a big difference between Trump's "dodginess" and Biden's.

Sure, Trump's businesses have benefited a bit but that is nothing compared to Biden, who has been selling out his country to work with organised crime all over the world for decades, using his junkie son as a bagman.

There is a massive, massive difference between the two. Hell, Biden is on video admitting he used his position as VP to withhold foreign aid money to Ukraine unless they fired the prosecutor that was investigating his son's company for corruption. Shit, Trump has done nothing like that. Nothing. There is a massive difference between the two.

The big difference between the dodginess of the two, Is that to reach the conclusion Biden's dodgy, you're conflating the actions of his son, with his actions, whereas with Trump, he's a dodgy merkin all on his own.

 

[Gronk]

Feeding the qanon peodo rumours now. In the final 24 hours the gloves come off.

 

[Gary Gutful]

It’s just gotten so grubby now...

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

 

[Gronk]

There are pictures of Hunter shirtless in the presence of the 14 year old.

 

[Gronk]

Businesses boarding up ahead of the election results.

 

[Gronk]