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The team with no stadium, no home and no fans?
In not sure the FFA is as infallible as previously mate out
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He and Canard are allegedly Cowboys fans. I assume both are from North Queensland and don't have an affirmation for Brisbane. It's not uncommon for people from North Queensland to hate Brisbane. There are strong secessionist sentiments in North Queensland as the locals are sick of their wealth flowing to SEQ.
The A-League has lost the plot.
| Club | Aggregate | Average |
| Sydney FC | 72,695 | 24,232 |
| Melbourne Victory | 54,558 | 18,186 |
| Adelaide FC | 20,687 | 10,344 |
| Western Sydney Wanderers | 37,533 | 9,383 |
| Newcastle Jets | 21,351 | 7,117 |
| Wellington Phoenix | 26,752 | 6,688 |
| Melbourne City | 19,880 | 6,627 |
| Brisbane Roar | 26,352 | 6,588 |
| Central Coast Mariners | 16,768 | 5,589 |
| Macarthur | 10,234 | 5,117 |
| Western United | 8,978 | 2,993 |
| Total | 315,788 | 9,288 |
www.ultimatealeague.com
This is bullshit and you know it. Take away the annual grant from the ARLC and gaming machine revenue and many of the Sydney clubs would fold. We saw how desperate V'landys was in 2020 after the season was suspended. At one stage he was publicly begging the NSW Gov for money. Foxtel and Ch9 bent him over a barrel because they know just how much the clubs need their money to stay afloat. These clubs cannot survive without broadcast revenue. Gaming machine revenue is going to dwindle over the upcoming decades, so that makes them even more dependant upon the broadcasters. God help these clubs if gaming machines are banned from licenced venues, which is what the progressives in politics want.
LOL such a juggernaut... almost as popular as the GiantsThe A-League has lost the plot.
Look at their attendances for this season.
Club Aggregate Average Sydney FC 72,695 24,232 Melbourne Victory 54,558 18,186 Adelaide FC 20,687 10,344 Western Sydney Wanderers 37,533 9,383 Newcastle Jets 21,351 7,117 Wellington Phoenix 26,752 6,688 Melbourne City 19,880 6,627 Brisbane Roar 26,352 6,588 Central Coast Mariners 16,768 5,589 Macarthur 10,234 5,117 Western United 8,978 2,993 Total: 315,788 9,288
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I'm just waiting for Storm80 to momentarily forget which account he's using and mention that he tried getting the Logan Scorpions into the comp once...
They should get rid of Macarthur, Western United and Central Coast Mariners. Expand into Singapore, Malaysia and Indonesia.
The only difference between now and 1995 is the annual grant back then was just $500k because the broadcast rights were a meagre $10m per annum.
Beattie was very pro expansion, he literally started his reign saying the nrl needed to expand or it would die. He then commissioned Greenberg to undertake feasibility studies and draw up a plan. We’ll never know if he would have made it happen or not though.Looks like expansion was on the ARLC's agenda while Peter Beattie was still its chairman in 2019.
Maybe we shouldn't praise V'landys for the Dolphins' inclusion?
What will it take for a Sydney club to consider relocation?AuthorBrad WalterNRL Senior ReporterTimestampMon 25 Mar 2019, 06:46 PMIf a team from England is brave enough to relocate to Canada, what will it take for a Sydney club to secure their future by moving to Brisbane or Perth?As debate about expansion of the NRL intensified last week, the Rugby Football League revealed they were considering "an application to relocate Hemel Stags" - a London-based League One club - to Ottawa "and another new application to launch a club in New York".Such a move would be comparable to the Newtown Jets or North Sydney Bears relocating to New Zealand.With Toronto Wolfpack in the third season of their quest for Super League promotion, the RFL could soon have three North American teams if New York are admitted and Wolfpack founder Eric Perez gains approval for the Stags to become Canada's second professional club."Both applications are judged to have the potential to help deliver the RFL's strategic vision," the RFL announced in a statement after a board meeting decided to invite the bids to meet with existing clubs.The NRL is currently formulating its strategic vision for the next generation and the ARLC has given chief executive Todd Greenberg until the end of the year to decide what the Telstra Premiership should look like in the future.In an extensive interview with Nine's 100% Footy, Greenberg put the expansion issue firmly on the agenda but raised more questions than he could provide answers as the NRL prepares for the most detailed analysis of the game's future footprint ever undertaken.It appears certain there will be significant changes and the game will expand into new territory for the first time in 25 years after the current broadcast deal expires in 2022 but before that occurs the NRL must resolve the following key issues:How many teams can be sustained;What are the best locations for the NRL to have teams, and;Which clubs will survive if the competition remains at 16 teams.A second Brisbane team is understood to be the preferred option for broadcasters, while last year's NRL.com player poll found Perth was the favoured location among players for the next club, with 27 per cent of the 117 polled across all 16 clubs voting for the WA capital.However, there are concerns about the depth of playing talent if the NRL was to expand the competition to 18 teams and much of the debate so far has focused on the relocation of Sydney clubs.Former ARL CEO John Quayle told NRL.com last year that the game had been encouraging Sydney clubs to consider relocating to Melbourne as the next step in expansion after the introduction of the Auckland Warriors, North Queensland Cowboys, South Queensland Crushers and Western Reds in 1995.However, no club had been prepared to make the move and the Super League war put an end to the discussions as the ARL and News Corp needed teams for their rival competitions.Super League modelThe initial Super League concept involved the 20 clubs in the 1995 premiership becoming shareholders in 12 privately-owned teams, with four to be based in Sydney, two in Queensland and one each in Newcastle, Canberra, Auckland, Melbourne, Perth and Adelaide.The four Sydney teams were:Sydney West - Canterbury, Parramatta, Penrith and Wests;Sydney North - Manly and North Sydney;Sydney South - St George and Cronulla, and;Sydney East – Balmain, South Sydney and Sydney RoostersAfter the Super League war, a Selection Criteria was introduced to reduce the number of teams in the newly formed NRL from 22 to 14 by 2000 – a compromise between the 12 team competition that News Corp wanted and the 16 favoured by the ARL .The Broncos, Knights and Warriors were guaranteed places in the 14-team competition provided they met a Qualifying Criteria.Clubs who merged were also guaranteed a spot but it was specified that there should be no less than six Sydney teams – a move that discouraged three-way mergers such as Cronulla joining with St George and Illawarra.Admission criteriaAll clubs had to meet a Basic Criteria based on playing facilities, administration, solvency and development.To determine which teams survived, clubs were ranked for the 1995, 1996, 1998 and 1999 seasons on:
- Home crowds (1. Broncos, 2. Knights, 3. Eels);
- Away crowds (1. Broncos, 2. Eels. 3. Roosters);
- Competition points (1. Storm, 2. Broncos, 3. Bulldogs);
- Gate receipts (1. Broncos, 2. Storm, 3. Knights);
- Profitability (1. Bulldogs, 2. Panthers, 3. Sharks), and;
- Sponsorship (1. Knights, 2. Broncos, 3. Cowboys).
Clubs were also required to have a minimum revenue of $8 million per season, including gate receipts of $1.25m and net sponsorship of $2.5m.While the three Sydney clubs who had aligned with Super League – Canterbury, Penrith and Cronulla – were considered the most profitable, every non-Sydney club produced larger gate receipts than their Sydney rivals.The final rankings were:1 Brisbane, 2 Newcastle, 3 Melbourne, 4 Canterbury, 5 Cronulla, 6 Sydney Roosters, 7 Parramatta, 8 North Queensland, 9 Warriors, 10 Canberra, 11 Manly, 12 Penrith, 13 Balmain, 14 North Sydney 15 Western Suburbs, 16 South Sydney.St George Illawarra were not included as they had merged at the end of the 1998 season – meaning Norths, Wests and Souths were excluded from the 2000 premiership.Mergers and financial incentivesWith the NRL offering $8 million to encourage mergers, Balmain and Wests also formed a joint venture, as did Manly and Norths (Northern Eagles), while the Rabbitohs took legal action which led to them being restored to the competition in 2002.However, the outcome of an appeal against Souths' win in court gives the NRL the right to exclude clubs in the future and the game may need to go through a similar process if it is decided to keep the number of teams at 16 but revamp the competition from 2023.A determining factor could be whether the existing clubs are prepared to split the $208 million they receive in funding from the NRL between 18 teams – a reduction from $13 million each to $11.5 million each.While there is resistance in Perth and Brisbane to a relocated team and Sydney clubs are reluctant to move, AFL figures indicate it may be more viable than starting a new team as a Tasmanian consortium was recently advised they would require an initial commitment of $40 million to be considered for entry in 2026.The other issue is playing talent for 18 teams and one way to gain an indication of the depth available is to look at the players who were not named among their club's top 17 for last weekend's matches.Possible team: Corey Allan (Rabbitohs); Bevan French (Eels), Gerard Beale (Warriors), Zac Lomax (Dragons), George Jennings (Eels); Josh Reynolds (Tigers), Jake Clifford (Cowboys); Tim Grant (Panthers), Reece Robson (Dragons), Leilani Latu (Titans), Rhyse Martin (Bulldogs), Scott Sorensen (Sharks), Nat Butcher (Roosters). Kyle Flanagan (Sharks), Jamie Buhrer (Knights), Lloyd Perrett (Sea Eagles), Chris McQueen (Tigers).The views in this article do not necessarily express the opinions of the NRL, ARLC, NRL clubs or state associations.
What will it take for a Sydney club to consider relocation?
If a team from England is brave enough to relocate to Canada, what will it take for a Sydney club to secure their future by moving to Brisbane or Perth?www.nrl.com
no problem at all with clubs getting a reasonable cut of the nrls revenue. But it should come with kpis, a perpetual license agreement and be fixed at X% of revenue. And the removal of the clubs ability to remove commissioners. When the nrl has to slash development funding and doesn’t have money to build an asset base because it’s paying clubs overs to make them profitable because they are sht at their business then we have a problem.
I remember Beattie saying that the game will die without expansion.
So you're arguing that it's smart to have nine small RL clubs in a city that doesn't have enough RL fans to support them?
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So you're arguing that it's smart to have nine small RL clubs in a city that doesn't have enough RL fans to support them?
