Non Footy Chat Thread II

[strider]

What would be the point of bringing back manufacturing if it's not to increase the blue-collar workforce?

Someone has to operate machines and maintain them .... some jobs is better than no jobs

 

[strider]

It's great isn't it. But what do you think will happen? It isn't illegal to answer calls or emails. What do you think will happen to the ones who refuse ( Which is their right) compared to the ones who don't mind answering them when it comes promotion time? Or if things get tight and someone needs to be laid off.
Put in extra and you have a higher chance of being rewarded. It's the Individuals choice. I've had annoying people think it's ok to ring anytime. So yes I get it but there will always be people prepared to push harder.

I dare say your newer immigrants and their children will be happy to do a little extra to get a little further and climb up the chain while plenty of others whinge about their rights.

Yep

 

[Poupou Escobar]

What would be the point of bringing back manufacturing if it's not to increase the blue-collar workforce?

Any jobs are better than no jobs. Plus the manufacturing will create demand for supporting services like robotics maintenance and transport and stuff. And ultimately more productivity means increased supply of stuff which brings prices down.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

how very labour of our govt, surprised to see Uber lending support to policies like this

imagine ScoMo supporting policies like this ?

They can crow all they like about "It's illegal to sack me for being a deadshit!", if your boss thinks you're shit it'll hurt your career.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Someone has to operate machines and maintain them .... some jobs is better than no jobs

ffs

 

[hindy111]

What would be the point of bringing back manufacturing if it's not to increase the blue-collar workforce?

Machine operators
Maintenance
The build of factory
Transporting stuff out
Cleaners
Storeman

 

[Soren Lorenson]

Machine operators
Maintenance
The build of factory
Transporting stuff out
Cleaners
Storeman

All fair points, but AI / automation won’t suddenly make all those jobs lower pay than what they can do in China or Taiwan or Indonesia. They can build the factory cheaper, pay the supply chain staff f**k all, mine the raw material direct from Africa and have no qualms about human rights, and end result is it’s still more economical to make stuff overseas.

 

[strider]

I agree. We are killing off jobs more than we are making jobs. f**k our eyes.

And it will be interesting if that whole, war with China, thing ever happens. Maybe govts will just let it be business as usual while you have a war, cos they know their own countries will be analed without all the shit that comes from china.

 

[hindy111]

All fair points, but AI / automation won’t suddenly make all those jobs lower pay than what they can do in China or Taiwan or Indonesia. They can build the factory cheaper, pay the supply chain staff f**k all, mine the raw material direct from Africa and have no qualms about human rights, and end result is it’s still more economical to make stuff overseas.

Yes but they have to then get the stuff here. Shipping isn't cheap and always going up.
Wage growth in India is like 10%. That's what happens in developing nations.

 

[T.S Quint]

Yes but they have to then get the stuff here. Shipping isn't cheap and always going up.
Wage growth in India is like 10%. That's what happens in developing nations.

Still cheaper than buying/hiring a warehouse, filling it full of staff and paying them every week, along with training fees, all the operating costs, etc.

If it wasn't cheaper overseas, they wouldn't be doing it.

 

[hindy111]

Still cheaper than buying/hiring a warehouse, filling it full of staff and paying them every week, along with training fees, all the operating costs, etc.

If it wasn't cheaper overseas, they wouldn't be doing it.

As I said. With automation reducing Labor costs and wages increasing rapidly in developing countries it may become a closer call to stay local or be overseas.

 

[strider]

Theres always some cheaper country for labour. Most of asian had its go, but we probably still have all of africa to cycle through. .... by then maybe the martians will be ready to be cheap labour.

 

[hindy111]

Theres always some cheaper country for labour. Most of asian had its go, but we probably still have all of africa to cycle through. .... by then maybe the martians will be ready to be cheap labour.

In the 80s we competed against each other but once the 90s hit we competed with people around the world. It's sad but unsure what people expect.

 

[Twizzle]

I've imported from various Asian countries, China is the only country I'll deal with now

India are by far the worst, they take forever then they want more money to finish the job, China have very good integrity in my experience

god knows what will happen to our economy if we ever fall out with China, so many of our wholesalers rely on China for their manufacturing and it keeps thier costs down

 

[Gronk]

I've imported from various Asian countries, China is the only country I'll deal with now

India are by far the worst, they take forever then they want more money to finish the job, China have very good integrity in my experience

god knows what will happen to our economy if we ever fall out with China, so many of our wholesalers rely on China for their manufacturing and it keeps thier costs down

Talking about importing, we've (I've) got problems with incoming via Suez Canal right now. It's going to be either flown in at $$ or boated via Cape Good Hope which is + 3 weeks. Just when Albo's inflation was looking better too. This is because of the Gaza thing and the merkins from Yemen.

 

[T.S Quint]

f**ken Yeah man

 

[Gronk]

how very labour of our govt, surprised to see Uber lending support to policies like this

imagine ScoMo supporting policies like this ?

I don’t think that the LNP were happy that the cross bench put this through and their vote was irrelevant. Just a hunch.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

How good were the Greens calling out the left wing landlord PM! Merkin pretending he cares about housing affordability. Sell your rent seeking investment to some merkin who needs it and invest in Australian businesses ffs

https://www.news.com.au/national/politics/anthony-albanese-faces-criticism-over-six-figure-rental-income-amid-housing-crisis/news-story/b23627895db968023327275fbdd27312

 

[Avenger]

Forces of Nature is the worst movie I’ve watched in the cinemas in two decades. It is utter shit. I don’t know what was worse, Eric Bana’s wooden performance, Hugh Jackman’s ex with her caked on Botox or the ridiculous story line full of coincidences.

f**k I hated this movie. Worst Australian movie I have ever seen. Save yourself and don’t be sucked in.

 

[hineyrulz]

The first movie was decent, and yes Hugh Jackman’s beard now looks rather scary.