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The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

nko11

Juniors
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Bit of info regarding Stadiums/stadium precincts I've gathered from the Titans and Sharks forums -

Sharks - Development still on track to be completed by September. Once construction is completed the capacity of the ground has been confirmed by their CEO as returning back to 18,000 capacity. Currently trying to confirm if that defeinitely means from next year, their capacity will be 18,000 or if there's other stages to complete. If so that would great news and would be very positive for the Sharks.

Titans - It was mentioned that the club owns a parcel of land ~700m from Cbus Super Stadium. In roughly 3 years, once the High performance Centre in Emerald Lakes is completed - they will focus on building a Leagues Club on this site. Would be great for our financial security, as well as pre and post game entertainment that the stadium precinct desperately needs. The Sporting Globe seems to be main area at the moment and it's a 1.7km walk from the stadium, away from the Train Station.
 

ash the bash

Juniors
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1,149
Bit of info regarding Stadiums/stadium precincts I've gathered from the Titans and Sharks forums -

Sharks - Development still on track to be completed by September. Once construction is completed the capacity of the ground has been confirmed by their CEO as returning back to 18,000 capacity. Currently trying to confirm if that defeinitely means from next year, their capacity will be 18,000 or if there's other stages to complete. If so that would great news and would be very positive for the Sharks.

Titans - It was mentioned that the club owns a parcel of land ~700m from Cbus Super Stadium. In roughly 3 years, once the High performance Centre in Emerald Lakes is completed - they will focus on building a Leagues Club on this site. Would be great for our financial security, as well as pre and post game entertainment that the stadium precinct desperately needs. The Sporting Globe seems to be main area at the moment and it's a 1.7km walk from the stadium, away from the Train Station.
What happened to the leagues club that was meant to be Oxenford ?
 

nko11

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Cheers for the reply,

Do you know where the new LC is planned, specifically which area around the stadium zone?
Noting that the fella I was asking attended the AGM late last year and this is where it was mentioned. I asked him the same question about specific location - by the sounds of it, they didn't mention a specific location just the distance from the Stadium. I doubt a DA would have been lodged yet, so not as easy to research it.

His reply:-
"Cannot say where however I thought somewhere further down Cheltemham drive direction where there is plenty of vacant land but I could be well way off the mark"

Which definitely could be correct - but in that case the 700 metres mentioned in the AGM was a bit of an underestimation.

For reference this is a 750 metre radius from Cbus - so if it is indeed 700m from the stadium it would have to sit inside this circle, the red x being the area most likely on Cheltenham Drive:

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If you were going religiously off the distance from the stadium - the properties just north of the Tafe, are pretty well exactly 700m on foot.
 

Desert Qlder

First Grade
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9,997

Don't be boring, Canberra. This City Hill stadium idea might actually work​

There have been tunnels, clear roofs, super stadiums for all sports and $3 billion furphys. We've seen AI mock-ups of floating stadiums, a West Basin colosseum and even one shaped like a Viking ship.

Nothing surprises Canberrans when it comes to the 17-year stadium saga that is still in an embryonic phase, and the divide between supporters and naysayers remains.

Could City Hill be transformed into an iconic venue, like the Paris Olympics and Barcelona diving? Pictures DNA Architects, AAP

Could City Hill be transformed into an iconic venue, like the Paris Olympics and Barcelona diving? Pictures DNA Architects, AAP

So why did a talking point pitched on April Fools about a venue on City Hill cut through like we've rarely seen in this never-ending debate?

The answer is simple: the design from DNA Architects showcased Canberra. It captured our city in one image, and proved to people we can sell ourselves to the world if we're smart.

And while it's easy for anyone to generate AI slop these days (I love the floating stadium idea but it's obviously not realistic), these images were produced by an architect actually considering the opportunities and limitations of a real city site.

It rapidly developed from a prank to get some eyeballs to people starting to think: actually, that's an idea the ACT government should look at seriously.

The open-ended stadium images generated by Aj Bala, showcased the city and the Griffins' vision for the capital, instantly creating a connection for the people who live here.

We could imagine ourselves catching a tram to the city centre and walking across the footbridge on a spring afternoon to watch the Raiders play in a finals blockbuster.

We pictured ourselves slinking out of the stadium and into one of the city's bars to drown our sorrows after a Brumbies defeat.

And, in a way we've never been able to do before, we had something to be proud of. Something that would display beautifully on television coverage. A reason for national teams to move games to the capital of Australia.

None of the renders we've seen in the past - the old City to the Lake images or the Canberra Liberals plonking down a stadium in West Basin - hit the same notes.

Why? Because when you showcase a city you tap into its soul.

Take the Barcelona Olympics for example. The Piscina Municipal de Montjuic was used for the diving events in 1992 because of its history and stunning views of Barcelona.

The best images of the Paris Olympics were as athletes cruised down the Seine or as volleyballers battled on sand in front of the Eiffel Tower. Take your pick of adjectives. But the simplest: iconic and everlasting images.

Apart from the imagery, there's also an element of "it makes sense" to this one. The City Renewal Authority wants ideas to transform City Hill - an otherwise unused, rabbit-riddled patch in the middle of the city.

It's time for Craig Gillman to be adventurous. Have an imagination. Don't respond to this idea with a boring statement about City Hill being a park and needing to stay that way because of the National Capital Plan.

If we stuck to that plan, there would already be a stadium on the edge of the lake as per the Griffin designs from more than 100 years ago. Don't shoot this down and feed into the boring reputation Canberrans are slugged with.

An initial City to the Lake design of a stadium.

An initial City to the Lake design of a stadium.

Why not put a stadium there? The City Hill overhaul will be open for public consultation, and a stadium would be used more often and by more people than a park with a small cafe or even a butterfly sanctuary.

There's a chance to do something iconic with that unused five hectares, and it would be on Prime Minister Anthony Albanese's doorstep, paving the way for a joint funding deal.

We checked with Bala to ask his architectural expertise for the idea he floated as a joke. He has been blown away by the feedback.

While not a stadium expert, Bala knows a good design when he sees one.

Would a stadium fit? "Yes, the current [Canberra Stadium] fits on that [City Hill] site," he said.

How? "If we were to look at an inverse bowl design in a more compact footprint, which is predominantly what new stadiums are being designed as, we should get our 30,000 seats all much closer to the action."

He said the luxury of having two open ends to showcase Canberra would be a design and capacity question.

But most importantly, the people have spoken. This is the first idea I've seen in 17 years of reporting about this issue where there's a groundswell of support. That's not to say everyone agrees, but people can see the potential and people love it, even if it did start as a joke.

"Putting a stadium on a giant roundabout would be extremely Canberra," one user said.

"It would be super convenient to Mooseheads," another added. Two Canberra icons within walking distance.
"I hate how much I love this," another said.

And they kept coming. "YES YES, this is a really good use of City Hill."

"Looks incredible and would also be an iconic concert venue. C'mon Canberra, last chance to prove we're viable and relevant."

So what do you say Canberrans? What do you think, Chief Minister Andrew Barr? What about you, Albo? Should we be iconic, viable and relevant?

Call me crazy (and I've been called much worse than that over almost 20 years of writing about this), but let's just do this and be done with it.

 

Wb1234

Immortal
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What’s going on top of that Xenia sign ? Is the bit below it open yet ? Looks like a huge banquet type facility

And the new bits in the Peter burns will that be the Chinese restaurant returning or more corporate boxes ?

Could be some big money to be made off these new facilities
 

Wb1234

Immortal
Messages
48,866

Don't be boring, Canberra. This City Hill stadium idea might actually work​

There have been tunnels, clear roofs, super stadiums for all sports and $3 billion furphys. We've seen AI mock-ups of floating stadiums, a West Basin colosseum and even one shaped like a Viking ship.

Nothing surprises Canberrans when it comes to the 17-year stadium saga that is still in an embryonic phase, and the divide between supporters and naysayers remains.

Could City Hill be transformed into an iconic venue, like the Paris Olympics and Barcelona diving? Pictures DNA Architects, AAP

Could City Hill be transformed into an iconic venue, like the Paris Olympics and Barcelona diving? Pictures DNA Architects, AAP

So why did a talking point pitched on April Fools about a venue on City Hill cut through like we've rarely seen in this never-ending debate?

The answer is simple: the design from DNA Architects showcased Canberra. It captured our city in one image, and proved to people we can sell ourselves to the world if we're smart.

And while it's easy for anyone to generate AI slop these days (I love the floating stadium idea but it's obviously not realistic), these images were produced by an architect actually considering the opportunities and limitations of a real city site.

It rapidly developed from a prank to get some eyeballs to people starting to think: actually, that's an idea the ACT government should look at seriously.

The open-ended stadium images generated by Aj Bala, showcased the city and the Griffins' vision for the capital, instantly creating a connection for the people who live here.

We could imagine ourselves catching a tram to the city centre and walking across the footbridge on a spring afternoon to watch the Raiders play in a finals blockbuster.

We pictured ourselves slinking out of the stadium and into one of the city's bars to drown our sorrows after a Brumbies defeat.

And, in a way we've never been able to do before, we had something to be proud of. Something that would display beautifully on television coverage. A reason for national teams to move games to the capital of Australia.

None of the renders we've seen in the past - the old City to the Lake images or the Canberra Liberals plonking down a stadium in West Basin - hit the same notes.

Why? Because when you showcase a city you tap into its soul.

Take the Barcelona Olympics for example. The Piscina Municipal de Montjuic was used for the diving events in 1992 because of its history and stunning views of Barcelona.

The best images of the Paris Olympics were as athletes cruised down the Seine or as volleyballers battled on sand in front of the Eiffel Tower. Take your pick of adjectives. But the simplest: iconic and everlasting images.

Apart from the imagery, there's also an element of "it makes sense" to this one. The City Renewal Authority wants ideas to transform City Hill - an otherwise unused, rabbit-riddled patch in the middle of the city.

It's time for Craig Gillman to be adventurous. Have an imagination. Don't respond to this idea with a boring statement about City Hill being a park and needing to stay that way because of the National Capital Plan.

If we stuck to that plan, there would already be a stadium on the edge of the lake as per the Griffin designs from more than 100 years ago. Don't shoot this down and feed into the boring reputation Canberrans are slugged with.

An initial City to the Lake design of a stadium.

An initial City to the Lake design of a stadium.

Why not put a stadium there? The City Hill overhaul will be open for public consultation, and a stadium would be used more often and by more people than a park with a small cafe or even a butterfly sanctuary.

There's a chance to do something iconic with that unused five hectares, and it would be on Prime Minister Anthony Albanese's doorstep, paving the way for a joint funding deal.

We checked with Bala to ask his architectural expertise for the idea he floated as a joke. He has been blown away by the feedback.

While not a stadium expert, Bala knows a good design when he sees one.

Would a stadium fit? "Yes, the current [Canberra Stadium] fits on that [City Hill] site," he said.

How? "If we were to look at an inverse bowl design in a more compact footprint, which is predominantly what new stadiums are being designed as, we should get our 30,000 seats all much closer to the action."

He said the luxury of having two open ends to showcase Canberra would be a design and capacity question.

But most importantly, the people have spoken. This is the first idea I've seen in 17 years of reporting about this issue where there's a groundswell of support. That's not to say everyone agrees, but people can see the potential and people love it, even if it did start as a joke.

"Putting a stadium on a giant roundabout would be extremely Canberra," one user said.

"It would be super convenient to Mooseheads," another added. Two Canberra icons within walking distance.
"I hate how much I love this," another said.

And they kept coming. "YES YES, this is a really good use of City Hill."

"Looks incredible and would also be an iconic concert venue. C'mon Canberra, last chance to prove we're viable and relevant."

So what do you say Canberrans? What do you think, Chief Minister Andrew Barr? What about you, Albo? Should we be iconic, viable and relevant?

Call me crazy (and I've been called much worse than that over almost 20 years of writing about this), but let's just do this and be done with it.

An oval ?

Nope
 
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