Rugby League World Cup - 40 man squads

[screeny]

How many times can we all call for his his head. Carr just has absolutely no idea what he's doing, or more to the point what damage he's doing...

 

[deluded pom?]

I can't see the logic of naming a 40 man squad. All it's done is highlight the fact that some teams will walk over other teams just to ensure they have the best 24 man squad possible. Australia don't NEED to choose players who have declared for other countries so WHY do it? Sorry guys but this is why the rest of the world see Australia as the spoilt brat of world sport. OK you win big for a nation of your size population but it's usually with the "I'll take my bat and ball home if you don't play my way" mentality. If you like this fact then good on ya. You're winners and we are usually losers but at least we have the welfare of the WHOLE game in mind, more often than not, not just ourselves.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

Why the hell should Australia pick less than the best players available when the players in question are Australian. Brett Whiet is Australian. He's not Irish. England pick a f**kin Samoan in their side and that's okay but according to some Australia isn't even allowed to pick Australians. FMD. If Ireland want a team of NRL players they can produce them. If they can't and that means they have a sh*t side that's not our fault. International sport is about who can produce the best side not who can recruit the best players from other countries. The ARL should be helping other countries produce their own players but expecting them to hand over some of their best players to others like some sort of charity is ludicrous and is in fact holding back the development of home grown players, like Wayne Kerr etc who may now miss out altogether.

 

[deluded pom?]

So why did we go through the rigamarole of White saying how he'd put up his hand for Ireland if he didn't make the Australia 24 and the WC organisers let teams announce a preliminary squad that includes the same player in two different squads? It just, rightly in my opinion, holds the game up for ridicule. Couldn't they have at least taken the squads on board without releasing any names to the public/media until any discrepancies had been sorted out? You recently described the 2008 WC as a joke ECT. I'm not argueing with you.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

Yeah it's a joke because Aussies like White are even allowed to play for a country like Ireland when he's probably never even been there. Now, not only can he play for Ireland, but you're saying Australia shouldn't even be allowed to pick him because he said he'd consider playing for Ireland. That's a joke.

 

[roughyedspud]

he did more than "consider" playing for ireland and you know it..

ireland put the call out and he answered it and i finding it staggering that you find white being a heritage player is more of a joke than the ARL picking him knowing full well that ireland where going to pick him...


i hate to think what geoff carr's feet look like,they are either bullet ridden or gnawed down to the bone cos he's been chewing on them..

 

[East Coast Tiger]

If he wants to play for Ireland he can. But will he if he makes the Australian team? Of course not because he's Australian. That's all that needs to be said on the matter.

 

[roughyedspud]

but white made his choice thats the point..


as i,and a few others have said, white opted for ireland a while ago,everyone knew ireland where gonna pick him...and australia did'nt have to pick him, they should have respected ireland's call out for NRL players, they should have respected brett white's chioce to opt for ireland..

 

[mean_maori_mean]

if ireland & australia are fighting over the same players the NZ & samoa have got f**ks chance :lol:

Yeah we are going to fight over misi taulapapa and Patrick Ah Van. Wouldnt be suprised if they named SBW.lol

NZ should make Ben Roberts switch alliegances.

But perhaps biggest furore will be over Masada Iosefa. He is a sure talent.

Iosefa was born in Samoa - so I have now qualms if he chooses to play for Samoa. As they could really build a strong team for the future on the back of him.

I just hope the kiwis pick his NZ born-raised cousin Jeff Lima.One of the form props in the nRL.

So yes this will be like picking a team from the same pool of players.

 

[Butters]

Anyone know when NZ's squad is released?:?

 

[roughyedspud]

next week apparently

 

[expansionist]

so where are the rest of them? I though all competing nations had to release initial squads on the 1st August?

 

[East Coast Tiger]

but white made his choice thats the point..


as i,and a few others have said, white opted for ireland a while ago,everyone knew ireland where gonna pick him...and australia did'nt have to pick him, they should have respected ireland's call out for NRL players, they should have respected brett white's chioce to opt for ireland..

He didn't choose Ireland. He said he'd be willing to play for them. If he wants to play for Ireland over Australia, which of course he doesn't, then he can tell the ARL to drop off. He won't because he doesn't. He'll only play for Ireland if he doesn't make the Australian side. That's what happens when we have f**king stupid rules that allow Aussies who have never even been to Ireland and never played for Ireland before to play for Ireland in one tournament and then never play for them again. The rules are f**ked.

 

[bartman]

so where are the rest of them? I though all competing nations had to release initial squads on the 1st August?

Still waiting... I think the 1st August deadline was for squads to be given to the RLIF/Tournament Directors. Some countries released them publically at the same time, others seem to be waiting to hear back before doing so?

Scotland's website is to be upgraded/updated on Tuesday, so I expect it will contain their preliminary squad, of which Danny Brough (Wakefield) has been declared captain.

Some of the Pacific nations struggle to maintain websites or any PR, so our chances of them proactively releasing their full squads publically might be a bit slim?

 

[kiwileaguefan]

NZ squad has been named but will be released to the media on Friday. Apparently there are a few bolters in the squad. Maybe Sonny Fai?

 

[roughyedspud]

He didn't choose Ireland. He said he'd be willing to play for them. If he wants to play for Ireland over Australia, which of course he doesn't, then he can tell the ARL to drop off. He won't because he doesn't. He'll only play for Ireland if he doesn't make the Australian side. That's what happens when we have f**king stupid rules that allow Aussies who have never even been to Ireland and never played for Ireland before to play for Ireland in one tournament and then never play for them again. The rules are f**ked.

Tonga, Ireland big World Cup losers

By Brent Read and Stuart Honeysett
August 02, 2008 THERE was no place for Nathan Hindmarsh, Mark Gasnier, Peter Wallace or Mitchell Pearce when selectors named a preliminary World Cup squad - but the biggest losers were fledgling rugby league nations Ireland and Tonga.

Penrith centre Michael Jennings and Melbourne prop Brett White had previously pledged their allegiances to Tonga and Ireland respectively but were instead named in a 46-man Kangaroos squad for the end-of-season tournament.

Both could still play for Tonga and Ireland, but only if they are overlooked when Australia's selectors whittle their squad to 24 the day after the grand final.

Their plight shines the light on the game's rubbery eligibility rules, which allow players to switch nations once between World Cups.

White, who played for NSW this year, qualified for the Irish side through his parentage and his imminent selection in Ireland's World Cup squad had already been trumpeted on the World Cup website.

 

[roughyedspud]

http://www.rlwc08.com/news/news/archive/2008/07/30/white-eyes-a-green-jersey.aspx

Ireland are expected to call up two current NRL stars when they name their 40-man train-on squad for the Rugby League World Cup next week.
They have recruited West Tigers winger Shannon McDonnell and Melbourne Storm prop forward Brett White to train for the men in Green as they take the next step in their journey to this year’s Finals in Australia.
Mike Callaghan, the Irish team manager, said: “We’re delighted that both these fine players have committed themselves to Ireland’s cause and look forward to working with them throughout the World Cup campaign.”
McDonnell has been out of action with a leg injury for several weeks but is progressing well in his rehabilitation program. Before his injury he had registered three tries in nine first grade games for Wests.
The Tigers flier qualifies for the Irish because both his grandmothers were born on the Emerald Isle; one comes from the far North West of Ireland in Donegal and the other from the republic’s capital on the east coast.
Now the 21-year-old is set to be named in Ireland’s World Cup training squad just four days before his next birthday.
Meanwhile, White, 26, a New South Wales State of Origin representative, also calls upon his Irish family history to qualify for Ireland in 2008.
Callaghan said:”Brett’s late grandfather was born in Ireland and then immigrated to Australia.” Recognised as one of Australian Rugby League’s leading front rowers, White played in the Storm’s 2007 Grand Final winning team as well as in the World Club Challenge, losing to Leeds Rhinos.
The Irish team management are now putting their finishing touches to their 40-man training squad which has to be lodged on August 1.

 

[Lox]

when is samoa naming their squad??

 

[roughyedspud]

after NZ......COME ON KEEP UP :lol:

 

[hutch]

but white made his choice thats the point..


as i,and a few others have said, white opted for ireland a while ago,everyone knew ireland where gonna pick him...and australia did'nt have to pick him, they should have respected ireland's call out for NRL players, they should have respected brett white's chioce to opt for ireland..

spud, white said he was available because he thought he was no chance of playing for australia. it is a disgrace that white was even contemplating playing for ireland and shows how far we have got to go in regards to country swapping. the ONLY reason white even made himself available for ireland is because it would not affect his chances with nsw and australia in the future. the real farce would have been white running out for ireland, and if he doesnt make australia he probably still will unfortunately.