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Sharks look at leaving home

Nightward

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Nah. If I were David Gallop and the Sharks went under, I'd fast-track the CC Bears into the NRL. Although the Perth and now, Central Queensland, bids have their strong points the Bears at least have Bluetongue on their doorstep and are supposed to have good local support.
 

Didgi

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LOL @ Sharks finally realising their crowd hates them and doesn't bother turning up. I doubt the Sharks will go under though, their fans will surely gain an interest as soon as they start succeeding, which will be as soon as Ricky Stuart is given the boot and they buy some attacking players. But if the Sharks did go under, I'd say the CC Bears would have to be fasttracked, that year or the next. Of course, the Sharks mightent fail, if they do at all, before the bears are already in the competition.
 

joshreading

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cough... Southern Sharks (8-9 games Cronulla - 3 or 4 games Adelaide)

If the Sharks really want to make long term gains in regards to increasing fan base and corporate base, TV viewership etc. then they need to do something like this. If they only give lip service committment to a City like Adelaide they will get lip service support. Get the support and commit to a minimum of 5 - 10 years and you watch the growth. (they also need some permanent staff/offices etc. there. - turn the SA Rams rep team into the SA Sharks etc)

I would ask the SA government to Half a Million (minimum) for playing games there, increased support for junior RL and then with such support approach Adelaide businesses about jumping on board.

It gaurantees the future of the Sharks without losing their home base (they might actually attact decent crowds to 8 - 9 homes games) They then build a totally new fan base, new TV viewship on Fox and ultimately FTA. Increase corporate sponsorship.

Could they really lose?
 

dimitri

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cough... Southern Sharks (8-9 games Cronulla - 3 or 4 games Adelaide)

If the Sharks really want to make long term gains in regards to increasing fan base and corporate base, TV viewership etc. then they need to do something like this. If they only give lip service committment to a City like Adelaide they will get lip service support. Get the support and commit to a minimum of 5 - 10 years and you watch the growth. (they also need some permanent staff/offices etc. there. - turn the SA Rams rep team into the SA Sharks etc)

I would ask the SA government to Half a Million (minimum) for playing games there, increased support for junior RL and then with such support approach Adelaide businesses about jumping on board.

It gaurantees the future of the Sharks without losing their home base (they might actually attact decent crowds to 8 - 9 homes games) They then build a totally new fan base, new TV viewship on Fox and ultimately FTA. Increase corporate sponsorship.

Could they really lose?


I like this idea.

Huge potential to sign up thousands of SA based members in a state which is renowned for Signing up as Season Ticket Members - eg Crows, Port, 36ers, Utd etc
 

Didgi

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Step 1: T.V - Regular games on FTA for the entire country (The Eastern and Southern Coasts first, inc. Perth region)
Step 2: Occasional Games - take games to each of these expansion areas each year (Premiership games to the major cities, trials to the smaller ciities.
Step 3: Field Teams - SQ & CC are already well on the way to this.

It is pointless to do things any other way - you need to build p the junior bases and interest in the regions before taking any major steps. This really should onlyt ake a few years, so CC & CQ should have teams in say 2013 Max, and Perth, Adelaide, Wellington etc. by perhaps 2018.
 

Brutus

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cough... Southern Sharks (8-9 games Cronulla - 3 or 4 games Adelaide)

If the Sharks really want to make long term gains in regards to increasing fan base and corporate base, TV viewership etc. then they need to do something like this. If they only give lip service committment to a City like Adelaide they will get lip service support. Get the support and commit to a minimum of 5 - 10 years and you watch the growth. (they also need some permanent staff/offices etc. there. - turn the SA Rams rep team into the SA Sharks etc)

I would ask the SA government to Half a Million (minimum) for playing games there, increased support for junior RL and then with such support approach Adelaide businesses about jumping on board.

It gaurantees the future of the Sharks without losing their home base (they might actually attact decent crowds to 8 - 9 homes games) They then build a totally new fan base, new TV viewship on Fox and ultimately FTA. Increase corporate sponsorship.

Could they really lose?

Excellent idea. A bit like Hawthorn do in Tasmania. Southern Sharks is a nice fit with their position in Sydney and of course SA.

Email this to the NRL and Sharks!!
 

Pierced Soul

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Central Qld Sharks

part of the reason they ahve poor crowds is the teams perfromance. even last year when they were winning they were terrible to watch, the reason being stuarts coaching
 

Nightward

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Any new team in Queensland needs to be a new entity. If you really think the people of Central Queensland will accept and champion a forcibly relocated Cronulla team, you've got another thing coming.

Realistically it is better for the NRL and for expansion entries to be entirely new teams whilst excising failed ones if you need to keep the numbers down. If you want to bring the team numbers up, new teams is the only way to go.
 

babyg

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I reckon Qld would accept the Sharks coming over. Sunshine Coast Sharks would work. and you won't alienate current Sharks fans as much as losing the team entirely.
 

Nightward

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I reckon Qld would accept the Sharks coming over. Sunshine Coast Sharks would work. and you won't alienate current Sharks fans as much as losing the team entirely.

Right.

I mean, what problem could any Queenslander have with a Ricky Stuart-led team being dumped on their doorstep? What Queenslander wouldn't want a team full of New South Welshmen to be their representative in the NRL?

Be serious here. How do you think people who live in Sydney would like it if the Broncos were relocated there and they were told that from now on, that is their club? Think they'd get much support?

Because honestly, this is what you're suggesting.
 

t1tan

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Sounds like the Storm-team full of Qlders representing Victoria.
They appear to have home support.
 

Nightward

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Victoria doesn't have a strong League presence, however. Queensland does.

The Storm were a new team, created for Melbourne; hardly the same thing as a relocated team coached by someone intensely disliked by most Queenslanders and staffed with players from another State.
 
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You see. Sydney clubs have a long term survival strategy. I'll admit, its not a very good one. Basically, it says for minimal discomfort of changing, we'll sit by and hopefully another one of the nearby clubs will fall over, thus allowing us to remain 'comfortable'. Thereby improving the position of the club....forever never wanting to rock the status quo....to their mis-success.

They delude themselves into believing that their fans enjoy their very modest stadiums (politely putting it) and accept their lack of ambition and drive as some kind of 'traditional-roots-purification' scheme, purging the club of anything that just doesn't feel like the clammy feeling the above must give.

Thats why.

How about something specific then?

I am often without specifics, but honestly, i dont have the time, and you dont need to be bored reading - people either know them already or will find them out soon enough. What I really require is for someone in the game to have the guts, to stand up, and implement the solution, because frankly, the game is ALWAYS going to have these problems (mostly sydney clubs going to the wall/poor stadia/not enough money for a prosperous future).

Specifics and to your question.....two things....your ceo and your debt. Parra will be a long time recovering. You will need to be willing to forget the past and re-invent the future you were planning. If that makes sense. Or they will be a shadow.



LOL

honestly, i just ran across the Penniless parramatta story in the courier mail. wow, sometimes i scare myself.....

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/sport/nrl/story/0,26746,25362483-5003409,00.html

i kid you not, i am laughing, but not at you, i just ran across the story, because i went to the site to find out about lockyer and his contract!
 
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Flapper

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There's some excellent nightspots on Rundle St. Laidback lifestyle. Adelaide's kind of like Cronulla anyway, kind of easy going, just with less White Supremacists.

The fact they're doing this as opposed to actually attemtping to get fans back through their own gates is very telling. Any time that a team gives up on their home base is 90% of the way towards giving up altogether.
 

Luc

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Excellent idea. A bit like Hawthorn do in Tasmania. Southern Sharks is a nice fit with their position in Sydney and of course SA.

Email this to the NRL and Sharks!!

But Tasmania is an AFL area. The closest comparision for this would be the Swans moving to Sydney.
 
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