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[NRL-TGG]

Where have I done this?

Are you are lumping all Australian's into one stereotype?

Maybe I should say "ozzies" for you, if you are going to do that.

 

[Masoe_eats_babies]

That's because we don't really speak English-English up North. There's a lot of Norse influence. That's why Northerners are better at speaking Danish than Southerners or you merkins in Australia with your faux London-Yank hybrid accents.

To say one or the other is correct is f**king nonsense. That's like saying someone who speaks English as a 3rd language is doing so incorrectly because they have a strong accent. All that's required is for the language and words to be understood, that's the point of language.

And I'm sorry to tell you NRL-TGG, but if you're unable to determine the meaning of 'nowt' within the context is was used in then it's you who struggles with not just English, but language itself. A normal, intelligent human being is able to use reason and context to understand new words, slang and phrases - Not you, it would seem.

The only reason one is considered correct and not the other is because all the Elites and Monarch nuffies live in London. If they lived in Yorkshire then how me and roughy talk would be considered correct English.

Sick and tired of people bagging on Northern English people for daring to have their own culture and history. What's Australia got? Your country is nothing but a clusterf**k of England and America.

 

[Masoe_eats_babies]

Well Roughy isn't from Yorkshire I've just realised, but you get the point. Not a world of difference between the 2, from an outsiders perspective.

 

[WireMan]

Well Roughy isn't from Yorkshire I've just realised, but you get the point. Not a world of difference between the 2, from an outsiders perspective.

Nah, people from Yorkshire talk funny to.



The main Aussie problem with English the the Aussie Inflection. Where the tone of each sentence rises at the end to be a question.
I say problem, thats probably a bit dramatic.

 

[Masoe_eats_babies]

Nah, people from Yorkshire talk funny to.



The main Aussie problem with English the the Aussie Inflection. Where the tone of each sentence rises at the end to be a question.
I say problem, thats probably a bit dramatic.

Aussies are pretty well spoke and literate on the whole. I just hate language snobbery from people who don't know what the f**k they're talking about. As if a region and culture having different words and accents is "incorrect". Especially when it comes to Northern English because there's a very real element of classism about it and being a proud and broad Northerner can even have negative effects on your career. This despite the fact the illiteracy is usually on behalf of the listener/reader, rather than the speaker.

Maybe it's just me but I just don't understand where all these deaf people come from. I don't think I've come across an accent yet that I can't make sense of. Yet it seems the supposedly educated classes and people - those who like to fancy themselves as gate-keepers of language - don't have the IQ points required to comprehend most variations of English.

The main gripe I have with Australians is that they sound too Yankish. It's just Kiwi diluted with American.

 

[langpark]

some great rugby league discussion going on here...

 

[nadera78]

Aussies are pretty well spoke and literate on the whole. I just hate language snobbery from people who don't know what the f**k they're talking about. As if a region and culture having different words and accents is "incorrect". Especially when it comes to Northern English because there's a very real element of classism about it and being a proud and broad Northerner can even have negative effects on your career. This despite the fact the illiteracy is usually on behalf of the listener/reader, rather than the speaker.

Maybe it's just me but I just don't understand where all these deaf people come from. I don't think I've come across an accent yet that I can't make sense of. Yet it seems the supposedly educated classes and people - those who like to fancy themselves as gate-keepers of language - don't have the IQ points required to comprehend most variations of English.

The main gripe I have with Australians is that they sound too Yankish. It's just Kiwi diluted with American.

Love that last line!

I get fed up with people calling me a cockney. I have, what I like to call, a working class west London accent. It's distinctly different from cockney, and tbf even the cockney accent is virtually gone. That part of east London is now populated almost entirely by immigrants of one variety or another and the people who used to live there have dispersed to the four corners. What outsiders often consider to be cockney is more often than not that of a different part of the city. West London has varieties based on class, education, ethnic background, etc, and that is replicated across the city. Even white working class people in say Ealing have a different accent to those with the same background in somewhere like Greenwich.

Then of course you have the hideous London orbital accent - those commuter towns that surround London like Luton, Crawley, Guildford and parts of Essex and Kent. Horrible accent that really grates and is a result of people from a variety of places moving to 'new towns' and their offspring spewing forth with a mangled accent.

 

[Masoe_eats_babies]

Obviously these Oztralians have never heard of Smiley Culture or come across a genuine cockney accent lol

 

[Steve Davy]

Aussies are pretty well spoke and literate on the whole. I just hate language snobbery from people who don't know what the f**k they're talking about. As if a region and culture having different words and accents is "incorrect". Especially when it comes to Northern English because there's a very real element of classism about it and being a proud and broad Northerner can even have negative effects on your career. This despite the fact the illiteracy is usually on behalf of the listener/reader, rather than the speaker.

Maybe it's just me but I just don't understand where all these deaf people come from. I don't think I've come across an accent yet that I can't make sense of. Yet it seems the supposedly educated classes and people - those who like to fancy themselves as gate-keepers of language - don't have the IQ points required to comprehend most variations of English.

The main gripe I have with Australians is that they sound too Yankish. It's just Kiwi diluted with American.

To be generous, if you are in a public school, in the South East and listen to the BBC, you will hear few accents other than your own and never develop the knack of tuning your ear to other accents. Mainly though, it is ignorant behaviour.

Also, the culturally illiterate French will look down on the English. The culturally illiterate English will look down on the Americans. It is snobbery in the absence of any good justification.

 

[deluded pom?]

See what you've started 'spud? You Yorkies are all t'same. :? Dote get me start id on the 'ull accent. Farv narnty narn.

 

[RedVee]

nowt wrong with the residency rules....in fact theres nowt wrong with any of the rules.....in forcing them is our problem not the rules

:lol:

Just made it harder for for everyone else to understand.
Me and a mate were talking in London and none of the locals knew what the hell we were talking about. Its reet good turning even more northern when you travel south of Brum.

Don't see a problem either players playing for a country under residency rules or parents.

I do think that once you play for an international team then that should be your team. But i can see why an exception could be made to help the smaller nations.

Yep, I'm pretty ok with the qualification rules, although the GrandParent rule I have a little issue with - I'd prefer Parent - as I think even GrandParents being from somewhere is a little remote. I mean if your parents and yourself are born somewhere, I reckon thats where you are from.
But I believe the GP rule is widespread in other sports and for getting passports from your 'heritage country', I know Ireland for example will give a special citizenship? classification for those with GPs born there - a bloke at work is going through the process at the moment.

 

[NRL-TGG]

That's because we don't really speak English-English up North. There's a lot of Norse influence. That's why Northerners are better at speaking Danish than Southerners or you merkins in Australia with your faux London-Yank hybrid accents.

London-Yank accent?

Do you know what Australians sound like?

To say one or the other is correct is f**king nonsense. That's like saying someone who speaks English as a 3rd language is doing so incorrectly because they have a strong accent. All that's required is for the language and words to be understood, that's the point of language.

Is that so?

Myb we shd all start typ like 16-yr skool grls, quiker n meets ur point of language.

And I'm sorry to tell you NRL-TGG, but if you're unable to determine the meaning of 'nowt' within the context is was used in then it's you who struggles with not just English, but language itself. A normal, intelligent human being is able to use reason and context to understand new words, slang and phrases - Not you, it would seem.

It was obvious that I understood it and was pointing it out to be a pain. It won't show up in any published dictionary and is therefore incorrect.

The only reason one is considered correct and not the other is because all the Elites and Monarch nuffies live in London. If they lived in Yorkshire then how me and roughy talk would be considered correct English.

Your incorrect assumptions has taken you way off track.

Sick and tired of people bagging on Northern English people for daring to have their own culture and history. What's Australia got? Your country is nothing but a clusterf**k of England and America.

The land that is now known as Australia has 40,000 years of proud history.

The main Aussie problem with English the the Aussie Inflection. Where the tone of each sentence rises at the end to be a question.
I say problem, thats probably a bit dramatic.

You just described a American School girl

 

[WireMan]

You just described a American School girl

Really? The Australian inflection is also spoken by American schoolgirls?

Guess Masoe was right then.


Deluded: No we won't get started on the 'ull accent. Lets keep it civil.


Roughy is from Oldham though, which granted is up in t'hills enough to be Yorkshire, but isn't really. Its middle ground designed to make the transition from Yorkshire to Lancashire easier.



Anyway, what is this thread about?

 

[NRL-TGG]

Really? The Australian inflection is also spoken by American schoolgirls?

Guess Masoe was right then.

I have never heard the Australian accent ever be described in the ways it has been in this thread.

 

[nadera78]

I have never heard the Australian accent ever be described in the ways it has been in this thread.

It's very, very common for Australians to speak with that inflection at the end of every sentence.

 

[Steve Davy]

I have never heard the Australian accent ever be described in the ways it has been in this thread.

The inflection is not just Australian and American school girls. Young British people (most famously students) also have the same tendency, which is associated with not being sure of how you will be taken and seeking feedback, amongst non-Australians.

If you are not ready for it, there is the impression for a Brit, American or Irish person that every statement is a question.

 

[NRL-TGG]

The inflection is not just Australian and American school girls. Young British people (most famously students) also have the same tendency, which is associated with not being sure of how you will be taken and seeking feedback, amongst non-Australians.

If you are not ready for it, there is the impression for a Brit, American or Irish person that every statement is a question.

haha righto.

 

[hitman82]

innit

 

[deluded pom?]

innit

Another one we have inherited from the WI population. Another one that grates on me. One of our managers is from what was Rhodesia and he still throws "innit" into a sentence when it's totally unnecessary.

 

[gutterfax]

innit

What do call a chav in a box?
Innit
What do you call a chav in a very small box?
Innit Just