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Lineal Ranking system

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bender

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Tonga have beaten the USA 28-20

No change in the rankings here. A good close game, as the rankings indicate it should be, with 9th against 13th.
 
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bender

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16th placed russia defeats 18th placed Germany in a close game. No change in teh rankings, but i think this game is evidence that the rankings are close to right for these two teams. I do think that the russian performance was a little dissappointing compared to what they used to be although hopefully Germany have improved quite a bit.
 
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bender

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1 Australia 1,240.02
2 England
3 New Zealand 1,062.30
4 PNG
5 Fiji
6 France 250.03
7 Samoa 159.50
8 Wales 149.17
9 Tonga 129.01
10 Scotland 91.01
11 Ireland 72.81
12 Cook Islands 62.11
13 USA 59.67
14 Lebanon
15 Italy
16 Russia
17 Serbia 43.51
18 Germany 34.52
19 Malta
20 Denmark
21 Norway 32.04
22 Jamaica
23 South Africa
24 Canada 21.91
25 Latvia 19.55
26 Ukraine 19.12
27 Czech Republic 14.27
28 Sweden

Unranked - Alphabetical Order

unranked Hungary -
unranked India -
unranked Indonesia -
unranked Japan -
unranked Kingdom of Saudi Arabia -
unranked Morocco -
unranked Netherlands -
unranked Pakistan -
unranked Palastine -
unranked Philippines -
unranked Singapore -

So, USA (13) Defeats Canada (25) - Although i get the feeling i may have missed a win or so by Canada, i am not sure.
And, Malta (22) Defeats Denmark (19) - A bit of an upset on the rankings, but i expect that Malta have a bit of improvement left in them due to heritage players.

Any other games i missed?
 
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bender

Juniors
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1 Australia 1,240.02
2 England
3 New Zealand 1,062.30
4 PNG
5 Fiji
6 France 250.03
7 Samoa 159.50
8 Wales 149.17
9 Tonga 129.01
10 Scotland 91.01
11 Ireland 72.81
12 Cook Islands 62.11
13 USA 59.67
14 Lebanon
15 Italy
16 Russia
17 Serbia 43.51
18 Germany 34.52
19 Malta
20 Denmark
21 Norway 32.04
22 Jamaica
23 South Africa
24 Canada 21.91
25 Latvia 19.55
26 Ukraine 19.12
27 Czech Republic 14.27
28 Sweden
29 Portugal
30 Japan

Unranked - Alphabetical Order

unranked Hungary -
unranked India -
unranked Indonesia -
unranked Japan -
unranked Kingdom of Saudi Arabia -
unranked Morocco -
unranked Netherlands -
unranked Pakistan -
unranked Palastine -
unranked Philippines -
unranked Singapore -

Updated this with the Latest Portugal vs Japan results. Hopefully i havent missed any other ranking changed games.
 
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bender

Juniors
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1 Australia 1,240.02
2 England
3 New Zealand 1,062.30
4 PNG
5 Fiji
6 France 250.03
7 Tonga
8 Samoa
9 Wales
10 Scotland 91.01
11 Ireland 72.81
12 Cook Islands 62.11
13 USA 59.67
14 Lebanon
15 Italy
16 Russia
17 Serbia 43.51
18 Germany 34.52
19 Malta
20 Denmark
21 Norway 32.04
22 Jamaica
23 South Africa
24 Canada 21.91
25 Latvia 19.55
26 Ukraine 19.12
27 Czech Republic 14.27
28 Sweden
29 Portugal
30 Japan
31 Netherlands
Unranked - Alphabetical Order

unranked Hungary -
unranked India -
unranked Indonesia -
unranked Japan -
unranked Kingdom of Saudi Arabia -
unranked Morocco -
-
unranked Pakistan -
unranked Palastine -
unranked Philippines -
unranked Singapore -

The biggest movers since the last ranking is Tonga, who moved from 9th to 7th with their huge win over Samoa. Russia proved the strength of this rankings system with a very tight win over Serbia away from home which left the rankings unchanged.

I dont think i missed any rankings changing results, but i am happy to be educated by others. The next possible controversial game in this system is the USA vs Samoa game. Is the general consensus that this should be considered a true international or not? Neither side are at full strength, but it seems to be a true domestic based Tonga and only the lower ranked side, USA are as far from full strength. My leaning is towards counting this as a ranking game, even if it is possible that this will give the USA a slight skew in the rankings if they win. Anyone else have any thoughts?
 
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crimpo

Juniors
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I'd include it - even though its clearly not the 'full' sides.

BTW did you include the Germany-Netherlands fixture?
 
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bender

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crimpo said:
I'd include it - even though its clearly not the 'full' sides.

BTW did you include the Germany-Netherlands fixture?
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No, i definitely missed that one. What was the score? I am presuming that
Germany beat Netherlands, meaning that i will now put Netherlands up as the last placed team.
 
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crimpo

Juniors
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Germany 28 Netherlands 22 (Germany took the chance to field some of their fringe players prior to the Shield)
 
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bender

Juniors
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bender said:
1 Australia 1,240.02
2 England
3 New Zealand 1,062.30
4 PNG
5 Fiji
6 France 250.03
7 Tonga
8 Samoa
9 Wales
10 Scotland 91.01
11 Ireland 72.81
12 Cook Islands 62.11
13 Canada
14 USA 59.67
15 Lebanon
16 Italy
17 Russia
18 Serbia 43.51
19 Germany 34.52
20 Malta
21 Denmark
22 Norway 32.04
23 Jamaica
24 South Africa
25 Latvia 19.55
26 Ukraine 19.12
27 Czech Republic 14.27
28 Sweden
29 Portugal
30 Japan
31 Netherlands

Unranked - Alphabetical Order

unranked Hungary -
unranked India -
unranked Indonesia -
unranked Japan -
unranked Kingdom of Saudi Arabia -
unranked Morocco -
-
unranked Pakistan -
unranked Palastine -
unranked Philippines -
unranked Singapore -

Canada has a big jump with their win over the USA.
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deal.with.it

deal.with.it

Juniors
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Is that including past couple matches?
Ukraine beat norway
Italy beat russia
Norway beat czech republic today
 
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Bovrick

Juniors
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Evil Homer said:
Ukraine beat Norway last weekend.

http://www.rlef.eu.com/european_bowl/report?RLE00000468

Also Belgium beat Netherlands two weeks ago, so they need to be added to the rankings.

http://www.rlef.eu.com/other/report?RLE00000490
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deal.with.it said:
Is that including past couple matches?
Ukraine beat norway
Italy beat russia
Norway beat czech republic today
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1 Australia 1,240.02
2 England
3 New Zealand 1,062.30
4 PNG
5 Fiji
6 France 250.03
7 Tonga
8 Samoa
9 Wales
10 Scotland 91.01
11 Ireland 72.81
12 Cook Islands 62.11
13 Canada
14 USA 59.67
15 Lebanon
16 Italy
17 Russia
18 Serbia 43.51
19 Germany 34.52
20 Malta
21 Denmark
22 Ukraine
23 Norway 32.04
24 Jamaica
25 South Africa
26 Latvia 19.55
27 Czech Republic 14.27
28 Sweden
29 Portugal
30 Japan
31 Belgium
32 Netherlands

Unranked - Alphabetical Order

unranked Hungary -
unranked India -
unranked Indonesia -
unranked Japan -
unranked Kingdom of Saudi Arabia -
unranked Morocco -
unranked Pakistan -
unranked Palastine -
unranked Philippines -
unranked Singapore -


That right?
 
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crimpo

Juniors
Messages
549
It'll even itself out - assuming that the clubs we expect to make the Semi Finals do - and if they don't it'll still be right!

BTW Sweden beat Norway 40-22 on 20/7/13 I think that's the only recent result which changes your rankings
 
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bender

Juniors
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1 Australia 1,240.02
2 Italy
3 England
4 New Zealand 1,062.30
5 PNG
6 Fiji
7 France 250.03
8 USA
9 Tonga
10 Samoa
11 Wales
12 Scotland 91.01
13 Ireland 72.81
14 Cook Islands 62.11
15 Canada
16 Lebanon
17 Russia
18 Serbia 43.51
19 Germany 34.52
20 Malta
21 Denmark
22 Ukraine
23 Sweden
24 Norway 32.04
25 Jamaica
26 South Africa
27 Latvia 19.55
28 Czech Republic 14.27
29 Sweden
30 Portugal
31 Japan
32 Belgium
33 Netherlands
34 Vanuata


Unranked - Alphabetical Order

unranked Hungary -
unranked India -
unranked Indonesia -
unranked Japan -
unranked Kingdom of Saudi Arabia -
unranked Morocco -
unranked Pakistan -
unranked Palastine -
unranked Philippines -
unranked Singapore -


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i have added the wins of Italy and USA. I know they were not strictly full internationionals, but not all results have been in these rankings, and when half strength USA and Tonga (or was it samoa) sides met earlier, the vote was to leave them in. I also added the swedish result that was missed on the way through. Vanuatu's win has been added, but i need to look up who that was agaisnt as from memory there are two more wins at the bottom end to be considered.

The Italian and USA wins have really shaken things up on the rankings side, and you would expect them to change by the end of the tournament, but in reality, how long is it (if ever) since anyone outside the top 3 has had as good a win as what they had (full international or not).
 
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