Penalty Magnets

[Chook]

you don't want to know.

You're adamant that they do.

If they came out and said they don't use tip sheets, you'd say "bullshit"

And if they came out and admitted they do use tip sheets, would that validate my argument?

Chook.

 

[sretsoor]

Didnt Harrigan confirm when he was in charge of the refs that tips sheets are used?

 

[Tommy Smith]

Yes he did.

Also, madunit, I was first with the butters avatar. Copycat!

 

[madunit]

Can't I adamantly guess? You need to get over yourself and realise most posts on this forum are people guessing.

the very notion is a contradiction. Ignore any other factors that are just as, if not more plausabile and hang everything on a guess.

Of course I'm going to defend my adamant guesses, wouldn't you?

I'm not making guesses.

And yet you continue to reply. You need to blame yourself for that.

Chook.

I need to blame myself for pointing out that your argument is contradictory?

okie dokie then

bad unit!

 

[madunit]

Didnt Harrigan confirm when he was in charge of the refs that tips sheets are used?

And I'm not saying they aren't used. I'm pointing out that Chook is certain that tip sheets are used but at the same he admits he is making a guess that they are being used.

Its one or the other chook.

 

[madunit]

Yes he did.

Also, madunit, I was first with the butters avatar. Copycat!

oh cheeseburgers!

 

[BCH]

The facts are that for the period 2008 to 2013 the Roosters have been one of the most penalised sides, yet at the same time received the fewest penalties. The trend is continuing this year. The fact they have made 2 GFs in that time is nothing short of remarkable. Although a "guess", I think its reasonable to assume that the refs are acting on 'preconceived" notions that the Roosters are ill disciplined (which to a degree I would agree with) and at the same time allowing the opposition latitude that the Roosters are not generally afforded.

Can anyone offer an explanation why the above appears the opposite for the Sharks??

 

[Dragonwest]

Tips sheets are definitely used right down to the players.

It becomes so obvious when a player comes straight off the bench for the first time in a match and is instantly spot targeted with a call from the ref like "X play it with our foot" or "X keep your hand off the ball".

 

[Chook]

And I'm not saying they aren't used. I'm pointing out that Chook is certain that tip sheets are used but at the same he admits he is making a guess that they are being used.

Its one or the other chook.

Are you really this dense or are you purposely missing the point?

As I've explained a number of times, I am referring to the long term trend of us receiving fewer and at the same time conceeding more penalties than other sides as the basis of my belief refs use tips sheets. Am I certain they use them, no, but it's what I choose to believe as nothing else can attribute to that long term trend.

Is that simple enough for you unit?

Chook.

 

[Goldthorpe]

PEN CON per game after Round 07

Aaron Woods      1.4 
James Segeyaro   1.4 
Josh McGuire     1.3 
Luke Kelly       1.3 
Michael Ennis    1.3 
Mitch Rein       1.3 
Aidan Sezer      1.2 
Glenn Stewart    1.2 
Beau Scott       1.1 
Corey Parker     1.1 
Dale Finucane    1.1 
Joey Leilua      1.1 
Sam Burgess      1.1

 

[Lambretta]

Is there a break down of penalties awarded/conceded per team

If you want to count up the penatlties awarded, start with the Roosters
It's easy to count to 0

 

[The Eagle]

If you want to count up the penatlties awarded, start with the Roosters
It's easy to count to 0

 

[madunit]

Are you really this dense or are you purposely missing the point?

As I've explained a number of times, I am referring to the long term trend of us receiving fewer and at the same time conceeding more penalties than other sides as the basis of my belief refs use tips sheets. Am I certain they use them, no, but it's what I choose to believe as nothing else can attribute to that long term trend.

Is that simple enough for you unit?

Chook.

yeah I understand your point chook.

You are certain tip sheets are used, at a guess.

 

[madunit]

Mad Bastard Medal - Round 8

Ryan James put in a stellar effort, conceding 4 penalties. Shaun Fensom & Bodene Thompson both racked up 3 on the weekend as well.

Leaderboard
11 Penalties Conceded: Aaron Woods
10 Penalties Conceded: Michael Ennis, Mitch Rein, James Segeyaro
9 Penalties Conceded: Corey Parker, Adam Docker, Sam Burgess
8 Penalties Conceded: Josh McGuire, Dale Finucane, Tariq Sims, Beau Scott, Joey Leilua

Penalties Ladder
Melbourne had their first penalty count loss.

SOU 5W 2D 1L +14 - 12Pts
MEL 5W 2D 1L +11 - 12Pts
CAN 5W 1D 2L +12 - 11Pts
CRO 5W 1D 2L +10 - 11Pts
MAN 5W 3L +17 - 10Pts
STI 4W 2D 2L +4 - 10Pts
NEW 5W 0D 3L -8 - 10Pts
NQL 3W 2D 3L +4 - 8Pts

BRI 3W 2D 3L -1 - 8Pts
GCT 3W 2D 3L -4 - 8Pts
WAR 3W 2D 3L -6 - 8Pts
PEN 3W 0D 5L +0 - 6Pts
WST 2W 1D 5L -4 - 5Pts
PAR 1W 2D 5L -14 - 4 Pts
SYD 2W 0D 6L -24 - 4Pts
CBY 0W 1D 6L -11 - 1Pt

Most Penalties Received:Souths 75, Canberra 71, Melbourne 70, Gold Coast 67
Most Penalties Conceded: Gold Coast 71, Sydney 64, Wests Tigers 63, Parramatta 62
Least Penalties Received: Canterbury 40, Sydney 40, Parramatta 48, Warriors 49, Brisbane 49
Least Penalties Conceded: Manly 44, Cronulla 46, St.george-Illawarra 49, North Queensland 50, Brisbane 50

 

[Goldthorpe]

Mad Bastard Medal - Round 8

Ryan James put in a stellar effort, conceding 4 penalties. Shaun Fensom & Bodene Thompson both racked up 3 on the weekend as well.

Leaderboard
11 Penalties Conceded: Aaron Woods
10 Penalties Conceded: Michael Ennis, Mitch Rein, James Segeyaro
9 Penalties Conceded: Corey Parker, Adam Docker, Sam Burgess
8 Penalties Conceded: Josh McGuire, Dale Finucane, Tariq Sims, Beau Scott, Joey Leilua

Penalties Ladder
Melbourne had their first penalty count loss.

SOU 5W 2D 1L +14 - 12Pts
MEL 5W 2D 1L +11 - 12Pts
CAN 5W 1D 2L +12 - 11Pts
CRO 5W 1D 2L +10 - 11Pts
MAN 5W 3L +17 - 10Pts
STI 4W 2D 2L +4 - 10Pts
NEW 5W 0D 3L -8 - 10Pts
NQL 3W 2D 3L +4 - 8Pts

BRI 3W 2D 3L -1 - 8Pts
GCT 3W 2D 3L -4 - 8Pts
WAR 3W 2D 3L -6 - 8Pts
PEN 3W 0D 5L +0 - 6Pts
WST 2W 1D 5L -4 - 5Pts
PAR 1W 2D 5L -14 - 4 Pts
SYD 2W 0D 6L -24 - 4Pts
CBY 0W 1D 6L -11 - 1Pt

Most Penalties Received:Souths 75, Canberra 71, Melbourne 70, Gold Coast 67
Most Penalties Conceded: Gold Coast 71, Sydney 64, Wests Tigers 63, Parramatta 62
Least Penalties Received: Canterbury 40, Sydney 40, Parramatta 48, Warriors 49, Brisbane 49
Least Penalties Conceded: Manly 44, Cronulla 46, St.george-Illawarra 49, North Queensland 50, Brisbane 50

Name            GM  PC
Ryan James      3   1.7
Aaron Woods     8   1.4
Mitch Rein      8   1.3
Michael Ennis   8   1.3
James Segeyaro  8   1.3
Luke Kelly      3   1.3
Sam Burgess     8   1.1
Corey Parker    8   1.1
Adam Docker     8   1.1
Josh McGuire    7   1.1

 

[ek999]

Good to see the referees are consistent in not letting the Dogs win a penalty count. We almost racked up another draw until the stupid one at the end

 

[madunit]

Name            GM  PC
Ryan James      3   1.7
Aaron Woods     8   1.4
Mitch Rein      8   1.3
Michael Ennis   8   1.3
James Segeyaro  8   1.3
Luke Kelly      3   1.3
Sam Burgess     8   1.1
Corey Parker    8   1.1
Adam Docker     8   1.1
Josh McGuire    7   1.1

Whats your point?

 

[Dutchy]

He's just adding how many per game, for those interested.

 

[madunit]

Ohhhhh

 

[Goldthorpe]

Is that ok? I'll take it down?