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Round 14 Parra vs Storm 14 June Game Day Thread

Casper The Ghost

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Thanks to everyone posting humour over the past 18 hours or so in this thread. I have been laughing and laughing and laughing or was it the drugs? Either way, I'm feeling great.
 

Casper The Ghost

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Irrelevant whether Folau plays at it (see rule 14.3.b) Once it touches him every attacking player is then onside.

But anyway, we beat the f**kers, and after an awful first 15 minutes pretty much everyone put in and that's the main thing.

Barry, under most-similar circumstances, kicking down-field on the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th or 6th tackle and one of your team-mates was already offside from the play the ball does not suddenly put him back on-side if the ball deflected off one of the opponents back into your team-mates arms and he runs off to score a try. :crazy::crazy:
 
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Barry, under most-similar circumstances, kicking down-field on the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th or 6th tackle and one of your team-mates was already offside from the play the ball does not suddenly put him back on-side if the ball deflected off one of the opponents back into your team-mates arms and he runs off to score a try. :crazy::crazy:

Argue with the Rules Casper :)

When offside 1. A player is offside except when he is in his own ingoal
if the ball touches, is touched, held or kicked, by
one of his own team behind him.

Out of Play 2. An offside player shall not take any part in the game or attempt in any way to influence the course of the game. He shall not encroach within ten metres of an
opponent who is waiting for the ball and shall immediately retire ten metres from any opponent who first secures possession of the ball.

Placed onside 3. An offside player is placed onside if:
(a) an opponent moves ten metres or more with the
ball.
(b) an opponent touches the ball without retaining it
 

Casper The Ghost

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That's not what the rule says. You can't gain an advantage while offside.

14.2 says you cannot encroach on a bloke waiting for the ball, and you must retire 10 metres from the bloke who first secures possession .

"14. 2 An offside player shall not take any part in the game or attempt to influence the course of the game in any way to influence the course of the game. He shall not encroach within ten metres of an opponent who is waiting for the ball and shall Retire ten metres immediately retire ten metres from any opponent who first secures possession of the ball.

Placed onside 3. An offside player is placed onside if:
(a) an opponent moves ten metres or more with the
ball.
(b) an opponent touches the ball without retaining it."

As long as the temporarily offside player did not do anything 'active' to gain an advantage (influence the course of the game) while offside (e.g. push a defender out of the road, try to jump on the ball), he's ok. He's not encroaching on a bloke 'waiting for the ball' in this circumstance, and he doesn't have to retire 10 metres back until a defender secures possession. From my recollection of what happened, looks like the right call to me.

EDIT: just watched it again. Harris does nothing to take an advantage while he's offside....he's just sliding along the ground...and doesn't attempt to interfere with play prior to the ball hitting Folau. Correct call.

Barry, this is taken straight out of Mein Kampf. What the f**k are you doing bro? :crazy:
 

Casper The Ghost

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Argue with the Rules Casper :)

When offside 1. A player is offside except when he is in his own ingoal
if the ball touches, is touched, held or kicked, by
one of his own team behind him.

Out of Play 2. An offside player shall not take any part in the game or attempt in any way to influence the course of the game. He shall not encroach within ten metres of an
opponent who is waiting for the ball and shall immediately retire ten metres from any opponent who first secures possession of the ball.

Placed onside 3. An offside player is placed onside if:
(a) an opponent moves ten metres or more with the
ball.
(b) an opponent touches the ball without retaining it

Thanks mate.

Overall and either way, we really have a clear contradiction in the rules leaving behind a smorgasbord of in the moment interpretations for referees to choose whatever, whenever, however, etc, AND, with a delicious escape clause as their dessert to cover their arses. Sounds perfectly Freemasonic to me Baz. Carry on mate.
 
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