Rumours and Stuff

[Happy MEel]

Agree with you wholeheartedly, especially with kaysa used as a battering ram. That's bizarre to say the least.

Agreed. He's also even more likely to get injured running up the guts like a mad merkin.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

How is that any different to running from dummy half like a mad merkin?

 

[IFR33K]

How is that any different to running from dummy half like a mad merkin?

Huge difference. Normally a dummy half will pick and choose when to run. On most occasions this is when either he's received a quick play the ball, markers aren't square or the defensive line isn't set. Could even be a combination of the three.

As opposed to running one or two off the ruck, where the defensive line is set and ready for the ball carrier.

 

[Happy MEel]

Huge difference. Normally a dummy half will pick and choose when to run. On most occasions this is when either he's received a quick play the ball, markers aren't square or the defensive line isn't set. Could even be a combination of the three.

As opposed to running one or two off the ruck, where the defensive line is set and ready for the ball carrier.

I was going to respond to Pou's post but instead I'll say:

x2 - isn't this obvious?

 

[Noise]

How is that any different to running from dummy half like a mad merkin?

At dummy half you are much more selective (and run less) and can choose when to run ie. when markers are slow or the A defender is out of position. As a hitup merchant you get far less opportunity to be selective in your runs.

Edit: ifreek got in first

 

[Poupou Escobar]

He does tend to only run after someone else has made a dent. Like I said, it's no different to running from dummy half except he is clear of the markers when he gets the ball. Do any of you merkins remember seeing him take the first run off a tap?

His low frequency of runs support the fact he's not a battering ram.

 

[IFR33K]

He does tend to only run after someone else has made a dent. Like I said, it's no different to running from dummy half except he is clear of the markers when he gets the ball. Do any of you merkins remember seeing him take the first run off a tap?

His low frequency of runs support the fact he's not a battering ram.

His frequency of runs has no bearing on how he's being played; straight and hard into opposition forwards which is a battering ram.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

It has every bearing because it shows the situations in which he receives the ball. I'm telling you he rarely runs at a set defensive line.

Champion Data separates a player's runs into different types, including dummy half runs and hit ups. In his three games since coming back from injury he has made 15 runs, only two of which were classed as hit ups by the stat provider.

 

[strider]

It has every bearing because it shows the situations in which he receives the ball. I'm telling you he rarely runs at a set defensive line.

Champion Data separates a player's runs into different types, including dummy half runs and hit ups. In his three games since coming back from injury he has made 15 runs, only two of which were classed as hit ups by the stat provider.

Maybe the stats provider has a psychological mindset that only big mofos make hitups??

What do they class his runs as?

 

[Gary Gutful]

Scurries.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I agree the distinction can be a bit subjective, but so can fans. I certainly remember Pritchard making the odd hit up and getting absolutely smashed, but I also think those runs are very rare and outside the gameplan, and intended (by Pritchard) to inspire/embarrass our forwards.

For what it's worth, Champion Data classes most of Pritchard's runs as 'normal runs'.

 

[Incorrect]

Scurries.

Not "Darts"?? Or a combination of Darts and Scurries... Durries.... that sounds more like Jason Smith though...

 

[natheel]

We should look at one of the raiders back up hookers or even manlys.

Baptiste or Parcell would be good pick ups and probably wouldn't be expensive. I mention Parcell as Luke Walsh has signed with Manly from reports. Can't see him getting a run in the halve worth Cherry and Green there

 

[Avenger]

Why wouldn't we try and entice Peats back?

 

[Gary Gutful]

Not "Darts"?? Or a combination of Darts and Scurries... Durries.... that sounds more like Jason Smith though...

HJ would also have plenty of durries per game.

 

[woddy]

Why wouldn't we try and entice Peats back?

We should , Hayne would be throwing a tanty about it though .

 

[84 Baby]

Agreed. He's also even more likely to get injured running up the guts like a mad merkin.

I thought his injuries were caused on the defensive side of things

 

[The Engineers Room]

Huge difference. Normally a dummy half will pick and choose when to run. On most occasions this is when either he's received a quick play the ball, markers aren't square or the defensive line isn't set. Could even be a combination of the three.

As opposed to running one or two off the ruck, where the defensive line is set and ready for the ball carrier.

Maybe we don't always run one out and they won't be ready for the ball runner as much?

 

[Happy MEel]

I certainly remember Pritchard making the odd hit up and getting absolutely smashed, but I also think those runs are very rare and outside the gameplan, and intended (by Pritchard) to inspire/embarrass our forwards.

That's probably not too far from the truth. But I certainly don't want our only hooker we currently have on the books for next year, who happens to be one of the smallest on the field and is seemingly made of glass, having to do that. He's less likely to diverge from the gameplan if he's at hooker.

 

[MrT]

Why wouldn't we try and entice Peats back?

because he was dirty he was put in that position. Hindsights a wonderful thing but who knew Foran would be an absolute basketcase. Had we kept Peats and re-signed him long term, we would have just been in need of a 7. Now it's a lot more complicated. I hope they make the right decisions from here