I have said for some time line up all the young backs playing wing and centre and have a straight out foot race to see who is the quickest.You seem to have alot of negativity towards Nighty. Tell me, who do we replace him with?
And dont nominate an external winger, because that kills off the theory that we need to promote juniors, so from within, which juniors do we have that have shown they can 100% be an improvement on Nighty?
At least with Nighty we know what we are getting. Yes He lacks in speed but he makes up for it with alot of other aspects.
You seem to be fixated on only speed.
Tell me, in the games Nighty jumped into fullback to replace Dugan, did he put a foot wrong?
The guy can handle fullback and wing, and the only thing he doesnt bring to the table is speed.
Im not saying he should be winger and his spot is 100% safe, but to be adamant and demand he be replaced is silly.
He doesnt let us down, he gives 100%, is reliable, still scores tries and is a St.George legend.
We have alot more serious issues then just nightys speed.
Cut the guy some slack.
Yes Mann has proven he can play on the wing and score tries.Who to replace him with , Mann quick elusive and can score tries .....
Does anyone else read Dino’s posts in a ‘bobcat goldthwaite’ kind of voice?I know I have been on the speed argument for a while now BUT its getting more concerning because of the following facts:
Nene mcdonald: He was recruited because of his speed. He is reluntant to run. Whe he does he is easy for the opposition. SHOULD BE SHOWN THE DOOR
Nightengale: Slow but reliable. I remember a couple of times during the year he was run down by a forward WTF. SHOULD BE RETIRED GRACEFULLY
Laifai: Busted and a belmore reject SHOULD BE SHOWN THE DOOR
Relunctance to promote youth: I read that their are some gun backs in the juniors. Whilst other teams promote the youth WE do not. Maybe its the philosophy that forwards win games mentality.
Forwards: At the moment our forward stocks have been boosted by Graham and possibly Walmsley. Why eat into the cap at the expense of backs. This is from a coach that was supposedly a gun centre.
THOUGHTS??????
Nene, what about Nightingale.?If we are going with one of the young guns.
I would give garrick ( hes 185cm and 95 kg)first go he has played against men in revs for all of last year bar a couple of games.
Herbert (is 93kg and 182cm)is more of a centre to me but would also do a good job.
There is also pereira (hes 183cm and 98kg) he is one of the quickest at training.
I would throw one of them in if nene does not pick up.
I wish nene would wake up and put in because he could be great.
Nene, what about Nightingale.?[/QUOTE Yeap agree.
They both need to lift
When are we going to STOP using the old RELIABLE description ?? can't remember any side winning a comp full of reliables. No he didn't put a foot wrong but, it's his lack of putting one foot in front of the other quickly ( which is what is require as a winger ) makes him a "Reliability"You seem to have alot of negativity towards Nighty. Tell me, who do we replace him with?
And dont nominate an external winger, because that kills off the theory that we need to promote juniors, so from within, which juniors do we have that have shown they can 100% be an improvement on Nighty?
At least with Nighty we know what we are getting. Yes He lacks in speed but he makes up for it with alot of other aspects.
You seem to be fixated on only speed.
Tell me, in the games Nighty jumped into fullback to replace Dugan, did he put a foot wrong?
The guy can handle fullback and wing, and the only thing he doesnt bring to the table is speed.
Im not saying he should be winger and his spot is 100% safe, but to be adamant and demand he be replaced is silly.
He doesnt let us down, he gives 100%, is reliable, still scores tries and is a St.George legend.
We have alot more serious issues then just nightys speed.
Cut the guy some slack.
I have said for some time line up all the young backs playing wing and centre and have a straight out foot race to see who is the quickest.
Have a look at their try scoring ability through their grade career and then make a selection Garrick, Lomax whoever.
The Nighty supporters can see nothing beyond safe, dependable, GF 2010 and are blind to the tries that are leaked on his side and the lack of long range tries scored on his wing and both are telling factors.
All the dribble about Nighty at FB and how well he did just ask yourself in all honestly who brought more to the position in attack Dufty or Nighty?
The thing that shits me the most with all the pro Nighty posters is "he is a legend" as if that means he should always be picked whilst ever he offers his services.
His status of greatness for his past deeds is not in question his ability to outperform others now is what is in question.
Yes Mann has proven he can play on the wing and score tries.
If it wasn't for him, 2016 would've been an even bigger disaster.
But the problem is not Nightly. The focus is all wrong.
Nighty is just doing what he is paid to do.
The problem is McGregor and his reluctance to replace Nighty for someone else.
If indeed there are faster, better wingers within our ranks, then why doesn't McGregor use them??
So while there is plenty of trash talk about Nightingale and his lack of speed and how easy the tries are that he scores etc.
He is not the problem.
You made a statement and now you are shying away from it.
You clearly stated he is slow but makes up for it by being a GF hero and consistent.
You offered an excuse or reason why he and also Lafai should be selected and in fact went on to state that you don't think they will cost us games.
In respect of context it is pretty simple they will not help us win a premiership and in fact continually selecting them will cost us what ever small chance we ever had.
Tell me someone that played in the 2010 GF that is still playing is better now than he was then?
What does this mean??????Does anyone else read Dino’s posts in a ‘bobcat goldthwaite’ kind of voice?
No, but I will be from now on!Does anyone else read Dino’s posts in a ‘bobcat goldthwaite’ kind of voice?
NIGHTINGALE will and can retire whenever the f**k he wants and i vote YES to that. He is our Lockyer. A little more respect for the man, he is a current International, what more can the guy do?I know I have been on the speed argument for a while now BUT its getting more concerning because of the following facts:
Nene mcdonald: He was recruited because of his speed. He is reluntant to run. Whe he does he is easy for the opposition. SHOULD BE SHOWN THE DOOR
Nightengale: Slow but reliable. I remember a couple of times during the year he was run down by a forward WTF. SHOULD BE RETIRED GRACEFULLY
Laifai: Busted and a belmore reject SHOULD BE SHOWN THE DOOR
Relunctance to promote youth: I read that their are some gun backs in the juniors. Whilst other teams promote the youth WE do not. Maybe its the philosophy that forwards win games mentality.
Forwards: At the moment our forward stocks have been boosted by Graham and possibly Walmsley. Why eat into the cap at the expense of backs. This is from a coach that was supposedly a gun centre.
THOUGHTS??????
What else can he do?NIGHTINGALE will and can retire whenever the f**k he wants and i vote YES to that. He is our Lockyer. A little more respect for the man, he is a current International, what more can the guy do?