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2nd Ashes Test: Australia v England at Adelaide, Dec 2-6 2017

TheParraboy

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Bit late catching up with the end of this thread but it was frustrating to read..pages and pages of people whinging that Smith had done the wrong thing not enforcing the follow on, everyone knew better because we let them back into the game,

Games over and then cue everyone (pretty much the same people) complaining that we wont get through the series with just the three quicks.

Thats the whole Point!

Keep this bowling unit intact, Australia wins the series and if long enough we win 5-0. Its as simple as that. This pommie batting line up is not capable of withstanding them and THAT is the reason Smith didnt enforce the follow on. Three great but historically fragile bowlers. The risk he ran was taht the poms could get in and then the bowler have to churn out long overs damaging the chances at the end of the series..

Australia won, bowlers churned out the minimum possible overs over the longest possible time, go to Perth fresh.

2/3 of the way there. Looked ugly but good result

Cant disagree with a lot of what you have said, however

Had Smith enforced the follow on the bowlers would have only bowled 20 odd overs before having a full nights rest. So really not much difference to what they had anyway, even if we scored more runs its not like the conditions were hot or the pitch was a deadless road.

Poms would have been shitting bricks had they been forced to follow on. This is the trick Smith missed. We would have gotten at least a couple of wickets, probably more. You could see them get a new lease of life when we chose to bat again. 4/50 wasn't it?

Lastly to the main point I want to make here, If we have the mentality of "resting" the bowlers during a test match, WHEN the conditions present themselves as best for bowling in the cool of an evening , then we will get our pants pulled down in a test soon enough. Pat Cummins bowled his ass off in the heat of India and pulled through ok.
 

Twizzle

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I have no doubt the fragility of our bowlers was the main contributing factor behind the decision. We certainly have a different mindset to when we forced Dravid and VVS Laxman to follow on many years ago.
 

hineyrulz

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Cant disagree with a lot of what you have said, however

Had Smith enforced the follow on the bowlers would have only bowled 20 odd overs before having a full nights rest. So really not much difference to what they had anyway, even if we scored more runs its not like the conditions were hot or the pitch was a deadless road.

Poms would have been shitting bricks had they been forced to follow on. This is the trick Smith missed. We would have gotten at least a couple of wickets, probably more. You could see them get a new lease of life when we chose to bat again. 4/50 wasn't it?

Lastly to the main point I want to make here, If we have the mentality of "resting" the bowlers during a test match, WHEN the conditions present themselves as best for bowling in the cool of an evening , then we will get our pants pulled down in a test soon enough. Pat Cummins bowled his ass off in the heat of India and pulled through ok.
Well said PB.

In the end we bowled more overs than we would have if we had of sent them back in.

But but but load management.
 

typicalfan

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I think it’s less about our workload and more about the Poms workload. It’s cumulative anyway.

Anyway what’s done is done and how it was done worked.
 

2 weeks

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The GOAT is bigger than Geebus.

Link has the photos.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/cricke...s/news-story/83af8f0bea9b3324d1a83ae5c7cef680

Fans embrace trend of putting Nathan Lyon on top of their Christmas trees
CRICKET


DECEMBER 25 is rapidly looming, and that can mean only one thing for fans of Australian off-spinner Nathan Lyon.
It’s time to put Gaaarrrry on the tree.

After earning the hearts of the Aussie fans and a regular spot in the Australian XI, Lyon’s cult hero status reached a fever pitch last summer.

Along with the ‘Nice Garry’ world record attempt, fans embraced another social media trend of putting Lyon’s face atop their Christmas trees in lieu of the traditional star, and it seems the fad is rolling into another summer of cricket.

“Gaz is the only star we need on our Christmas tree and I’m sure he’ll brighten up any of our days!” read a post on the Nathan Lyon Appreciation Page, introducing a gallery of fan-supplied pics of Lyon atop their trees.
 
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