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Riddell defends McGregor's results

brokendigit

Juniors
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I'll summarise for the time-poor: McGregor should keep his job, because he's not as bad as Ricky Stuart.
To his credit, he appears to have at least done some research.
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/mark-riddell-fires-shot-at-canberra-raiders-20180815-p4zxm7.html


Mark Riddell fires shot at Canberra Raiders

David Polkinghorne
Former Dragons and Eels hooker Mark Riddell has fired a shot at the Canberra Raiders, describing the club's poor season as the "elephant in the room" as a coaching saga engulfs the NRL.

The Raiders have under-performed this year and will miss the finals for the second year in a row after failing to fire under the guidance of coach Ricky Stuart.

But the blowtorch has been on coaches in the top-half of the competition after Penrith sacked Anthony Griffin, Wayne Bennett fell out with the Broncos and Paul "Mary" McGregor came under pressure at St George Illawarra.

Wests Tigers coach Ivan Cleary was linked to the Panthers job before pledging he'd see out his time with the joint venture and South Sydney mentor Anthony Seibold has been linked with the Broncos.

The coaching merry-go-round prompted Riddell to take aim at Stuart given the Raiders have made the finals once in the past five years.

Stuart has a 46 per cent winning record in Canberra.

"How can [McGregor] be criticised when I look at the Canberra Raiders and see the Canberra Raiders in the last five years have finished 15th, 10th, one finals appearance, 10th and 10th this year and no one questions the Canberra Raiders and Ricky Stuart," Riddell said on Macquarie Sports Radio on Wednesday.

"If this Canberra Raiders' record of the last five years was at South Sydney would the coach be still there?

"We are a results-driven business. Mary's got more results than Ricky Stuart. Do you think Ricky Stuart would like to be in the Dragons' position? He hasn't got his side into those positions in five years.

"Every other coach gets critiqued on their results and you look at the results of the Canberra Raiders in the last five years - no other coach in the game would be coaching if they had that record.

Riddell felt the focus shouldn't be on McGregor, a former Dragons teammate from the early 2000s, and instead set his sights on Stuart.

The Raiders board extended Stuart's contract last year until the end of 2020.

He guided the Green Machine to the preliminary final in 2016, when they were within two points of making the grand final, but they haven't made the top eight since.

Raiders chief executive Don Furner said they will conduct a post-season review, which will include an examination of the coaching structure and whether to add any assistants to Stuart's team.

The Raiders review every aspect of their operations at the end of every season to look at how to improve.
 
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I'll summarise for the time-poor: McGregor should keep his job, because he's not as bad as Ricky Stuart.
To his credit, he appears to have at least done some research.
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/mark-riddell-fires-shot-at-canberra-raiders-20180815-p4zxm7.html


Mark Riddell fires shot at Canberra Raiders

David Polkinghorne
Former Dragons and Eels hooker Mark Riddell has fired a shot at the Canberra Raiders, describing the club's poor season as the "elephant in the room" as a coaching saga engulfs the NRL.

The Raiders have under-performed this year and will miss the finals for the second year in a row after failing to fire under the guidance of coach Ricky Stuart.

But the blowtorch has been on coaches in the top-half of the competition after Penrith sacked Anthony Griffin, Wayne Bennett fell out with the Broncos and Paul "Mary" McGregor came under pressure at St George Illawarra.

Wests Tigers coach Ivan Cleary was linked to the Panthers job before pledging he'd see out his time with the joint venture and South Sydney mentor Anthony Seibold has been linked with the Broncos.

The coaching merry-go-round prompted Riddell to take aim at Stuart given the Raiders have made the finals once in the past five years.

Stuart has a 46 per cent winning record in Canberra.

"How can [McGregor] be criticised when I look at the Canberra Raiders and see the Canberra Raiders in the last five years have finished 15th, 10th, one finals appearance, 10th and 10th this year and no one questions the Canberra Raiders and Ricky Stuart," Riddell said on Macquarie Sports Radio on Wednesday.

"If this Canberra Raiders' record of the last five years was at South Sydney would the coach be still there?

"We are a results-driven business. Mary's got more results than Ricky Stuart. Do you think Ricky Stuart would like to be in the Dragons' position? He hasn't got his side into those positions in five years.

"Every other coach gets critiqued on their results and you look at the results of the Canberra Raiders in the last five years - no other coach in the game would be coaching if they had that record.

Riddell felt the focus shouldn't be on McGregor, a former Dragons teammate from the early 2000s, and instead set his sights on Stuart.

The Raiders board extended Stuart's contract last year until the end of 2020.

He guided the Green Machine to the preliminary final in 2016, when they were within two points of making the grand final, but they haven't made the top eight since.

Raiders chief executive Don Furner said they will conduct a post-season review, which will include an examination of the coaching structure and whether to add any assistants to Stuart's team.

The Raiders review every aspect of their operations at the end of every season to look at how to improve.
I admire Riddell's loyalty to his ex team mate but comparing McGregor and Stuart is like comparing Humpty to Dumpty. They both suck as coaches.
Furthermore, you cannot compare the coaching gig at Canberra to that at St. George.
Mighty club steeped in tradition - by definition the blow torch burns hotter at Kogarah.
Its heartwarming to see the swathe of media support for McGregor which seems to be endless but that really doesn't change the fact that he is not qualified to coach FG.
He didn't serve any sort of meaningful apprenticeship and he didn't deserve the job in the first place.
So all of McGregor's drinking buddies in the media and his Illawarra spin team can get nicked.
Time for a change.
 

Gareth67

First Grade
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I don’t like the paragraph that says - Pul McGregor CAME under fire , from that one could assume that powers to be have already decided that he will be here next year - come hell or high water , they will drag the Dragons down the path to rack and ruin even if it’s the last thing they do.
 

Saintsified

Bench
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I'll summarise for the time-poor: McGregor should keep his job, because he's not as bad as Ricky Stuart.
To his credit, he appears to have at least done some research.
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/mark-riddell-fires-shot-at-canberra-raiders-20180815-p4zxm7.html


Mark Riddell fires shot at Canberra Raiders

David Polkinghorne
Former Dragons and Eels hooker Mark Riddell has fired a shot at the Canberra Raiders, describing the club's poor season as the "elephant in the room" as a coaching saga engulfs the NRL.

The Raiders have under-performed this year and will miss the finals for the second year in a row after failing to fire under the guidance of coach Ricky Stuart.

But the blowtorch has been on coaches in the top-half of the competition after Penrith sacked Anthony Griffin, Wayne Bennett fell out with the Broncos and Paul "Mary" McGregor came under pressure at St George Illawarra.

Wests Tigers coach Ivan Cleary was linked to the Panthers job before pledging he'd see out his time with the joint venture and South Sydney mentor Anthony Seibold has been linked with the Broncos.

The coaching merry-go-round prompted Riddell to take aim at Stuart given the Raiders have made the finals once in the past five years.

Stuart has a 46 per cent winning record in Canberra.

"How can [McGregor] be criticised when I look at the Canberra Raiders and see the Canberra Raiders in the last five years have finished 15th, 10th, one finals appearance, 10th and 10th this year and no one questions the Canberra Raiders and Ricky Stuart," Riddell said on Macquarie Sports Radio on Wednesday.

"If this Canberra Raiders' record of the last five years was at South Sydney would the coach be still there?

"We are a results-driven business. Mary's got more results than Ricky Stuart. Do you think Ricky Stuart would like to be in the Dragons' position? He hasn't got his side into those positions in five years.

"Every other coach gets critiqued on their results and you look at the results of the Canberra Raiders in the last five years - no other coach in the game would be coaching if they had that record.

Riddell felt the focus shouldn't be on McGregor, a former Dragons teammate from the early 2000s, and instead set his sights on Stuart.

The Raiders board extended Stuart's contract last year until the end of 2020.

He guided the Green Machine to the preliminary final in 2016, when they were within two points of making the grand final, but they haven't made the top eight since.

Raiders chief executive Don Furner said they will conduct a post-season review, which will include an examination of the coaching structure and whether to add any assistants to Stuart's team.

The Raiders review every aspect of their operations at the end of every season to look at how to improve.
Just a mate looking out for a mate.
 
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McGregor will see out his contract for next year, to do anything else the board would have to admit the last 4 years were a terrible mistake.
Never going to happen.
 

Saintsified

Bench
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End of the day, Brown and Griffin weren't doing too bad when Dragons and Broncos moved both of them on when the great one Wayne came. Thats the fact of life, yes Mary may not be the worst coach this season but when Wayne or Bellamy become available then it's pretty much clear the decks stuff.
 

dannyt

Coach
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End of the day, Brown and Griffin weren't doing too bad when Dragons and Broncos moved both of them on when the great one Wayne came. Thats the fact of life, yes Mary may not be the worst coach this season but when Wayne or Bellamy become available then it's pretty much clear the decks stuff.

I suppose that overall mary may not be the worst coach this year, given we are still 5th.

However, our end of season fade outs have been alarming, and this season may be the worst. Argument that mary is the worst coach this season!
I took the picture below from FB and I've already posted in JA. Pretty bloody damning.
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dragonhysteria

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I suppose that overall mary may not be the worst coach this year, given we are still 5th.

However, our end of season fade outs have been alarming, and this season may be the worst. Argument that mary is the worst coach this season!
I took the picture below from FB and I've already posted in JA. Pretty bloody damning.
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The alarming stat there apart from the losses is the defence. Easily the worst.
 

gregstar

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zombiebloodlust

Juniors
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789
lol... Piggy Piggy Piggy. This is an astonishingly bad take.

McGregor is sooo similar to Ricky Stuart in style it's not funny. Both coaches have an intensity that turns stale and ineffective within 2 to 3 years. Both are brilliant at buying into any excuse or distraction in order to deflect negative attention away from themselves. Both coaches manage to turn quality halfbacks into absolute duds. Both are rock-solid members of a cronyistic boys club. Both have middling to poor results over the last few years.

But

Ricky Stuart's Canberra team actually WON a finals game in 2016, in fact they were 2 points away from a grand final appearance. And he's, you know, won a premiership before.

McGregor has won jack shit
 

dannyt

Coach
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lol... Piggy Piggy Piggy. This is an astonishingly bad take.

McGregor is sooo similar to Ricky Stuart in style it's not funny. Both coaches have an intensity that turns stale and ineffective within 2 to 3 years. Both are brilliant at buying into any excuse or distraction in order to deflect negative attention away from themselves. Both coaches manage to turn quality halfbacks into absolute duds. Both are rock-solid members of a cronyistic boys club. Both have middling to poor results over the last few years.

But

Ricky Stuart's Canberra team actually WON a finals game in 2016, in fact they were 2 points away from a grand final appearance. And he's, you know, won a premiership before.

McGregor has won jack shit
The last one may have been more Gus than Ricky, but very good points.
 

RufusRex

Post Whore
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to be fair to ricky .. our spine is so much better than theirs esp once Wighton went …
Apart from the last week it has been stable all year and was part of our early season form.

Raiders have a sub par spine and their bench rotation includes a bloke who couldn't even get a run with us.

In saying that .. they choke worse than we do on a more regular basis …
 

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