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Pacific Championship

roughyedspud

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The RLIF meeting in Singapore,a month after that article,outlined plans for a pacific cup starting next mid season then ending at the end of the season..

But with Australia dumping GB it's unsure how GB touring NZ will impact the pacific cup
 

Burns

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If it were happening, you think they would annouce it either before or after the Test this weekend.

Which means we won’t hear anything til April probably.
 

StadiumXIII

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The RLIF meeting in Singapore,a month after that article,outlined plans for a pacific cup starting next mid season then ending at the end of the season..

But with Australia dumping GB it's unsure how GB touring NZ will impact the pacific cup
Whatever plan they come up with for the Pacific Cup it needs to benefit all Pacific Nations & International RL. At this stage they are improving and it's important they don't stagnate and lose momentum which tends to happen after the WC. Australia & NZ should be playing more regularly - It's a shame the RLIF didn't carry on or expand the 4 Nations, it was working quite well. So NZ are touring England this year and England/GB tour NZ & Pacific Islands next year?

Cook Islands need to be there also
Ideally Samoa, Tonga, Fiji, PNG & Cook Islands & a tier below to open the door for Niue, Vanuatu, Solomon Islands & Tokelau and other developing Pacific Nations to compete at a higher level. I remember earlier versions of the Pacific Cup included the Indigenous and Maori teams even Norfolk Islands. It has now come to the time where a regular (at least every 2 years) Pacific Cup is needed.
 

RedVee

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The previous Pacific Cup used to give admission to the SH 4 Nations didn’t it ?

I wouldn’t mind a yearly Pac Cup and Euro Cup giving entry to a 5 Nations.

But 4 Nations not in favour these days.
 

titoelcolombiano

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Agree with the above comments - the four nations was working well. The only reason that it was discontinued is because it was owned by the ARLC, RFL and NZRL and the RLIF wanted a second tournament other than the world cup which allowed them to generate revenue. I don't know why the RLIF didn't just take over the four nations concept and expand it to a 6 nations with regional qualifying tournaments with the big 3 getting guaranteed qualification in exchange for handing the brand over:

Aus
NZL
Eng
Winner of Pacific Cup - let's say Tonga as they are the best at the moment
Winner of the Euro Cup - let's just say France
Repechage (Winner of: Euro 2nd place: let's say Wales, Pac 2nd place: let's say Fiji, Colonial Cup winners: let's say USA, Africa / ME winners: let's say Lebanon)

So the potential lineup would be:
Australia
New Zealand
England
Tonga
France
Lebanon

Everyone plays each other once and then a final. It would be a cracker of a tournament and I'm sure Tonga would make the tournament unpredictable, even from just a points for and against perspective to decide which teams qualify for the final.
 
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siv

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Now a question around when to play the Euro snd Pacific Cups

If we lined this up with SOO period those teams are battle ready for an end of season 6 nations

Then team who dont qualify for the 6 nations could go back and play in a regional 6 nations shield series to qualify for the next year Cups

Where to put the repocharge in the calender was my concern

I would prefer the best Americas team maybe join the Pacific Shield and try and win through
 
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Today in the Tele they are proposing a Pacific tri nations with Australia, New Zealand and Tonga and the team that comes third get s relegated
 
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INTERNATIONAL rugby league is set for a shake-up with Australia, New Zealand and Tonga on the verge of taking part in a historic tri-nation series which would see the last-placed country relegated to play other Pacific nations.

The Rugby League International Federation (RLIF) will present the proposal at a conference of the Asia Pacific Rugby League Confederation in Auckland on Friday.

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Australia could be relegated under an international rugby league shake-up.
The Daily Telegraph has learnt the RLIF’s plan includes:

- Australia, New Zealand and Tonga to be grouped in one conference.

- Samoa, PNG and Fiji to play in another conference.

- A mid year Test between New Zealand and Tonga during the State of Origin period.

- A mid-year Test between two of Samoa, PNG and Fiji.

- Australia to play New Zealand and Tonga at the end of next year.

- Samoa, PNG and Fiji to have played each other once before the end of 2019.

- The winner will be decided on a round-robin style points system.

- The bottom placed team in the Australia, New Zealand and Tonga pool will be dropped down while the first-placed team in the Samoa, PNG and Fiji conference will be promoted the next time the tournaments are held.

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Samoa would join PNG and Fiji in the second pacific tier. Picture: Getty


Representatives from all the nations including Australia will consider the proposal which could potentially see either the Kangaroos or Kiwis relegated as Tonga continues to grow as an international powerhouse

RLIF chief executive Nigel Wood said this was the first element of a five year international calendar.

“Most people would agree international rugby league is capable of doing more,” Wood said. “Right now represents a terrific opportunity to work with all the stakeholders in the game. What today is about is the Pacific Island nations reviewing the potential “Oceania Cup” to see if that meets their needs.

“There is a lot of consultation which still needs to happen. We know we have to go back and speak to clubs.

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Tonga would play New Zealand during Origin period. Picture: Getty
“It’s about taking advantage of an opportunity most people should happen in rugby league and deliver an international calendar which is compelling.

“The game is ready to talk about what international rugby league could look like. This is the first part of the consultation process.”

It is understood a Great Britain side will tour New Zealand next year but are not expected to play in Australia.

Australia play Tonga for the first time on Saturday night while the Kiwis and Tonga are yet to play since last year’s dramatic World Cup where Tonga shocked New Zealand to beat them in the group stages. The Kiwis then lost to Fiji in the quarter-final.

“International rugby league is one of the greatest opportunities the sport has,” Wood said. “It is underdeveloped and capable of a lot more. When we showcase it, people are full of admiration.

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Latrell Mitchell fends off Shaun Johnson during the Trans Tasman rugby league international between New Zealand and Australia. Picture: AFP
“There is plenty of scope for improvement.”

The matches in New Zealand will help aid their governing body who are in a precarious financial state. The match against Australia last Saturday attracted just 10,000 people while Saturday night’s game is a sellout.

“They have had a difficult two years,” Wood said. “They are emerging out of that. Their leadership is good and I have a lot of confidence under the leadership of (new chief executive) Greg Peters will go from strength to strength. Of all of the big nations New Zealand does not have a domestic competition so they need international rugby league more than anybody.”



https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport
 

Burns

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They are putting way too much faith into Tonga.

The 'Tier 2' nations don't get much. It says that PNG Samoa and Fiji are to pay each other before end of 2019. How is that going to happen? Which nations sits out in the middle of the year?

We have the mid year tests. Then at least another fortnight to allow each Conference to play each other?

I mean thats fine, but where does Great Britain fit?

When the NRL put there International Window proposal forward, the Northern Hemisphere was forgotten. Its happening here again. Why should England allow Australia and New Zealand regular high quality matches, and further receive no interest to play Australia?
 

Storm13

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Is this suppose to be the RLIF's second tournament they wanted???

Also the second time this tournament would be held at the earliest is 2022. I like the idea of NZ and AUS getting involved in a Pacific tournament, but not like this.
 

Storm13

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They are putting way too much faith into Tonga.

The 'Tier 2' nations don't get much. It says that PNG Samoa and Fiji are to pay each other before end of 2019. How is that going to happen? Which nations sits out in the middle of the year?

We have the mid year tests. Then at least another fortnight to allow each Conference to play each other?

I mean thats fine, but where does Great Britain fit?

When the NRL put there International Window proposal forward, the Northern Hemisphere was forgotten. Its happening here again. Why should England allow Australia and New Zealand regular high quality matches, and further receive no interest to play Australia?
Maybe GB play the odd team out each round, mid year and during the end of year tour?
 

Coastbloke

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The proposal sounds great, but I agree, what about England. They are stuffed without a strong France and Wales. We can forget about Ireland and Scotland. In a perfect world, the US, Canada and even Jamaica would be interesting options. As yesterday showed, France don't even care..
 

Perth Tiger

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That concept kinda screws over England. why not make it a 4 nations. include England in the top comp and include the best of Canada or USA in the second comp
 
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