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Should Smith, Warner, Bancroft bans be lifted asap?

Should Smith, Warner, Bancroft bans be lifted


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blaza88z

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Clearly Australia are the dominant cricket nation overall, but others have had periods of dominance...

But seriously "finally got a good crop of players"... without delving too far, have you heard of Barry Richards, Graeme Pollock, Peter Pollock, Clive Rice - but for their (rightful) ban SA would have been the Windies main competition - more recently the likes of Donald, S Pollock, Kallis, Ntini, Smith, de Villiers etc went ok

I dislike the bastards, but they consistently produce wonderful cricketers

I didn't say they had never produced good players, I just think at this point in time they've got the mix of a dominant attack with some class batsmen, particularly in the ODI format. With all those players you listed you'd think there would've been a World Cup in there somewhere, I think their biggest achievement to date would be holding the number 1 test ranking for a good while.

I don't dislike South Africans at all, I respect the way they play their cricket and they've had some real class acts on and off the field in recent times, you'd hate to be a fan though, for all the players they've had they've never really won anything. If we aren't in a position to pose a threat come World Cup time, i'll be barracking hard for the South Africans, they deserve to win one.

God help us all if England win the World Cup.
 

TheParraboy

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Would have been nice for Warner and Smith to paly Shield cricket in February

Not to be


https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/aust...ering-bans-to-stay/ar-BBPTs3f?ocid=spartanntp


Bid blocked as Warner, Smith and Bancroft ball-tampering bans to stay

Cricket Australia has dismissed the players' association's appeal to have Steve Smith and David Warner's bans over their involvement in the ball-tampering scandal lifted.

Smith, the former Australia captain, and his deputy Warner had been suspended for a year until March 29 while Cameron Bancroft, the man who used the infamous piece of yellow sandpaper, was banned for nine months until December 29.

The suspensions came after a Cricket Australia investigation following the stunning events of the Cape Town Test in March plunged the sport into crisis.

The seven-member CA board had convened a telephone hook-up on Monday to discuss a range of options. However, it was felt the suspensions were warranted and should not be changed.

CA had yet to comment publically but a statement was expected on Tuesday afternoon.

The three men will continue to play grade cricket until their bans from first-class cricket are served.

The Australian Cricketers' Association had lodged a submission to the board asking for the bans to be immediately lifted. There had been a strong push to allow Smith and Warner to return to first-class cricket in February - although not necessarily Test cricket - but the CA board opted to remain firm.

Smith and Warner, two of the world's finest batsmen, have already been missed, with the side struggling heading into a summer against India - the No.1 ranked Test nation - and Sri Lanka.

Opinions at the highest level of the sport, among states and players and supporters, had been divided over whether the bans should have been reduced.

The ACA had argued that the cultural failings at CA's Jolimont headquarters, as exposed in the Longstaff report, had permeated through the sport and contributed to the mentality which prompted the players to act in the manner they did. Therefore, the ACA said, this was new and compelling evidence that the bans be amended.

Smith, Warner and Bancroft had not actively sought the penalties be lifted, preferring to concentrate on playing grade cricket. Rather, it had been the ACA that had pushed for change.

When the bans were imposed, Warner was also told he would never hold an official leadership role again while Smith cannot captain a side again until March 2020.

The Cape Town drama sparked major fall-out and what many hope will be cultural change.

Coach Darren Lehmann has stepped aside, high-performance boss Pat Howard had his departure expidited, CA chairman David Peever and chief executive James Sutherland are gone and broadcasting and digital chief Ben Amarfio was sacked in the wake of the Longstaff review, while there have been other changes at board level and in senior posts.
 

Bazal

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It's pretty ridiculous that they aren't playing Shield cricket.

A perfect opportunity to get a couple of Test quality players out there and go some small way to improving the level of the competition....
 

Mr Angry

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Apparently, cheaters do prosper.

Warner simply refuses to open up — even if he could earn as much as $1 million from an exclusive book deal to reveal all about Sandpaper-gate.

LINK
 

Mr Spock!

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Who the f**k would buy that.

"I'm a real good bloke, don't believe what anyone else tells you."

Forward by Candice Warner.
Or the LU version

Warner is the incarnation of satanhitler.because we know the Australian dressing room......

Forward by Kiwis/Basil/AG/................
 

madunit

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And so we gutted our team to be worse than Bangladesh and sacrificed our best on tha alktar of public outrage..

That showed em, huh.
It's more that it sent a clear message to ALL cricketers in Australia, that

*Cheating will not be tolerated
*Cheating will attract heavy penalties
*No one will be protected, including the Test captain.

It has shown the rest of the world how ball tampering should have been handled in the past.

Slaps on the wrist did nothing to stop it. This decision has changed the culture of the game in Australia to a much improved, fair, honest version.

That win at all costs shit was ugly and showed a complete lack of skill and was a complete separation from the spirit of the game.
 

billygilmore

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It's more that it sent a clear message to ALL cricketers in Australia, that

*Cheating will not be tolerated
*Cheating will attract heavy penalties
*No one will be protected, including the Test captain.

It has shown the rest of the world how ball tampering should have been handled in the past.

Slaps on the wrist did nothing to stop it. This decision has changed the culture of the game in Australia to a much improved, fair, honest version.

That win at all costs shit was ugly and showed a complete lack of skill and was a complete separation from the spirit of the game.

Except other teams still get slapped on the wrist and we’re the only team in world cricket that doesn’t swing the ball, we sure showed the rest of the world how to turn your team to complete shit
 

madunit

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Except other teams still get slapped on the wrist and we’re the only team in world cricket that doesn’t swing the ball, we sure showed the rest of the world how to turn your team to complete shit
Here's a fact.

The ACB doesn't run world cricket.

Just because other nations are softcocks and too gutless to properly punish their cheating players, doesn't mean we should follow suit.

That view is the most idiotic, simplistic, nonsensical moronic drivel I have heard.

A punishment should also serve as a deterrent.

Clearly the ball tampering punishments by other nations haven't been a deterrent. They've been completely and entirely pathetic.

They've allowed blatant cheaters to waltz back into Test sides with nothing more than a gentle brushing on the back of the cheaters hand, while sporting an almost displeased demeanor.

And they wonder why it keeps happening.

Australia has decided to stamp this shit out and prevent it from happening again.

Our bowlers can't swing the ball because they have poor coaches, poor techniques and worse strategies and plans for their pace bowlers that are not conducive to swing bowling.

They try to bowl too fast, they bowl too round-arm and they often grip the ball incorrectly for swing bowling. Any half decent bowling coach could spot all this and fix it, but the team doesn't want to have pace bowlers sending down swinging deliveries at 130 odd kph, they want shortish straight up and down shit at 145kph.
 

Mr Spock!

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Here's a fact.

The ACB doesn't run world cricket.

Just because other nations are softcocks and too gutless to properly punish their cheating players, doesn't mean we should follow suit.

That view is the most idiotic, simplistic, nonsensical moronic drivel I have heard.

A punishment should also serve as a deterrent.

Clearly the ball tampering punishments by other nations haven't been a deterrent. They've been completely and entirely pathetic.

They've allowed blatant cheaters to waltz back into Test sides with nothing more than a gentle brushing on the back of the cheaters hand, while sporting an almost displeased demeanor.

And they wonder why it keeps happening.

Australia has decided to stamp this shit out and prevent it from happening again.

Our bowlers can't swing the ball because they have poor coaches, poor techniques and worse strategies and plans for their pace bowlers that are not conducive to swing bowling.

They try to bowl too fast, they bowl too round-arm and they often grip the ball incorrectly for swing bowling. Any half decent bowling coach could spot all this and fix it, but the team doesn't want to have pace bowlers sending down swinging deliveries at 130 odd kph, they want shortish straight up and down shit at 145kph.
Lol...they've gone insane with their rules for grade cricket.....

It's funny because now all people post now is how shit the Australian cricket team is.
 

madunit

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I'd rather watch a team play fair and lose than a side cheat and win.

What's funny is that the very same people who complain about the punishments handed down, had zero issue with the Storm losing their titles for cheating the cap.
 

AlwaysGreen

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A bit of a development here:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/couple...e/news-story/f50f93224d581fe144e702050220cee5

Exiled Australia batsman Steve Smith is set for at least six weeks on the sideline after suffering an elbow injury. Smith flew home from the Bangladesh Premier League on Friday for scans on a sore elbow and is now set for surgery on Tuesday to repair a ligament in his right elbow. “He is expected to wear a brace for six weeks before commencing rehabilitation,” a CA spokesperson said. “Return to play time frames will be clearer once the brace has been removed.”

Smith is currently serving a 12-month ban from international cricket and domestic cricket in Australia, and will be free to play from the end of March. It is unclear at this stage how surgery will impact his hopes of making a return to national colours during May’s World Cup in England.
 

TheParraboy

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If he misses the WC so be it, we wont have a great chance of winning with or without him

Just want him to be 100% and bend England over in the ashes
 
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